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Mark3435 05-25-2007 09:33 PM

can I make money playing supertight?
 
Can I make money playing 2/4 to 5/10 Limit online at full tables only playing the top 5% of hands dealt such as AA,KK,QQ, JJ, AK suited and offsuit and A,Q suited? If I only played these hands (raising with them preflop) and only continued if I hit a piece of the flop could I average 1/2 to 1 BB per hour? How about if I were playing live?

Octopus 05-25-2007 11:31 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
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Can I make money playing 2/4 to 5/10 Limit online at full tables only playing the top 5% of hands dealt such as AA,KK,QQ, JJ, AK suited and offsuit and A,Q suited? If I only played these hands (raising with them preflop) and only continued if I hit a piece of the flop could I average 1/2 to 1 BB per hour? How about if I were playing live?

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It depends on whether your opponents are idiots are not. (I do not mean this to be rude; they may well be idiots.) In the online games you mention, you would surely lose (albeit quite slowly). Live? Who knows. Depends on the game, but I can think of little more boring to do than play that way live.

Having said that, posts like this go over very poorly here. If you want to learn to play, fine. If you want a robot-like strategy, search elsewhere.

Xhad 05-26-2007 01:03 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
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Can I make money playing 2/4 to 5/10 Limit online at full tables only playing the top 5% of hands dealt such as AA,KK,QQ, JJ, AK suited and offsuit and A,Q suited?

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Online, the winners at those limits will be very glad if you do this.

Leader 05-26-2007 01:45 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
no, the games aren't nearly good enough for this to work.

HollywoodDB 05-26-2007 04:12 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
I think it would somewhat work live 8/16 and below, but not online.

Mark3435 05-26-2007 06:00 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
Didn't mean it to be robotic although I can see how it is. Just that I play too many hands now and looking for a more disciplined way to play limit poker. If I was going to restrict myself to certain hands preflop for tight low limit poker any suggestions?
thanks.

gameoverjc 05-26-2007 07:32 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
don't try it live. I have a fairly nice range of hands I open with, raise, etc, and in live I've gone card dead for 4-5 hours waiting for any decent hand. If I waited for Jacks and better, I would've been card dead in many sessions for 12 full hours. You simply don't get enough hands.

smarterthanyoda 05-26-2007 11:05 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
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If I was going to restrict myself to certain hands preflop for tight low limit poker any suggestions?

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Memorize the starting requirements from one of the books and stick to that. You won't play optimally in every situation, but it will give you a good foundation while you're learning.

Nemesis69 05-26-2007 12:00 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
change gears often. Only tight is not good!

Xhad 05-26-2007 12:08 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
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If I was going to restrict myself to certain hands preflop for tight low limit poker any suggestions?

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Memorize the starting requirements from one of the books and stick to that. You won't play optimally in every situation, but it will give you a good foundation while you're learning.

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Yeah, you might be able to get away with a preflop hand chart at 2/4 (not so sure about 3/6 and 5/10 online), even though you'll still be a little overly tight, as long as it's not Phil Hellmuth's chart you're using.

elindauer 05-26-2007 01:43 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
If you're going to try this (and it's kind of goofy IMO but hey, to each his own), then you should mix in some random suited hand as well. Make your preflop range something like JJ+, AK, AQs, and, say, 76s and 65s. raise / 3-bet / cap everything in your range.

The mid suited connectors are going to mess with your opponents heads. Occassionally showing down a hand like 65s is going to buy you way more action than you deserve with your hand range. It also helps you take advantage of one of the greatest advantages to playing tight... being able to steal pots with weak hands.

Personally, I'd want to at least loosen up in the big blind... playing this hand range from that position is absurdly tight. If you played this way from other spots though, it probably wouldn't be too terrible.

good luck.
Eric

nerdking 05-26-2007 03:47 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
considering the climate at decent stakes online nowadays, the good players will eat you alive, and the shark to fish ratio nowadays is quite high. I laugh at the weak-tight players who have their little hand chart layed out in front of them as I raise with some random hand from the button and immediately put them on a hand if they decide to come along. Learn to play a wide variety of hands preflop AND postflop and you'll prosper.

Frond 05-26-2007 04:07 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
When I first started playing live I played kind of similar to the OP mention of just big hands etc. I didn't play any connectors, suited or otherwise, small pairs up front and no suited Ace hands that were lower than AT etc. Pretty limited in the scope of playable hands. Looking back this was not a bad way to start out for a beginner, playing very tight until you get the hang of things and are slowly able to add a lot other hands in the mix. If one were to just play this tight all the time you might never play a hand for hours and hours, maybe even several sessions in a row. I've been card dead like this before.

Mark3435 05-26-2007 10:25 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
I may try the way you mention. Playing very tight but then occasionally mixing it up with the low suited connectors but raising preflop with everything. I guess I figured there were many more fish online that wouldn't realize I was only playing premium hands and figured I would get paid off when I hit. I don't have much experience playing limit poker online (have played a little more live) but I figured that there would be more bad players online since anyone can sign up and play.

Meraxes 05-26-2007 10:45 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
Online is tougher than live, at similar stakes. Plus anyone with pokertracker will figure out what your hand range is before long, if you're playing that predictably.

smarterthanyoda 05-27-2007 01:51 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
I misread the OP when I gave the advice about going straight by a starting hand chart. My advice was based on live play. I don't play much online, but my understanding is that the games are much tougher. If you're having trouble with starting hands, you might want to think about starting at a lower limit.

Live, there are many low-limit games that are beatable by just sticking to the charts in SSHE.

Octopus 05-28-2007 12:27 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
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I don't have much experience playing limit poker online (have played a little more live) but I figured that there would be more bad players online since anyone can sign up and play.

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There may be more bad players online (though I doubt it), but the good players are playing 4 to 12+ tables at a time, so most of the seats are occupied by at least passably good players. (Good enough to take advantage of your strategy anyway.)

Hair_of_the_Dog 05-28-2007 03:30 PM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
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I think it would somewhat work live 8/16 and below, but not online.

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I agree. You'll get labeled a rock, but there will still be "idiots" that will call you down anyway. Gotta be a live game though. It will take a really really long time.

Bob T. 05-29-2007 03:08 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
The overhead will kill you, and you will get crushed online, because so many people have PT, and you won't get any action with your big hands.

Bluffoon 05-29-2007 08:23 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
Learn to use position. Play very tight out of position and loosen up and be more aggressive in position and if you think you can get position on your opponents.

TheCount212 05-29-2007 11:33 AM

Re: can I make money playing supertight?
 
I think you need to at least mix in all pairs, Axs, Kxs, and suited connectors down to 65. Otherwise you'll drive yourself nuts waiting for those hands and then waiting to actually hit a flop you like with them.


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