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andintheend 05-24-2007 02:49 AM

who rulez in online high stakes?
 
Hello, thats my first post here, but im a viewer for more than 1 year. I'm a regular 3/6 NL player and i want to do some coments and see if yall agree with me. (sorry my english errors)

Everyday when i will sleep i log on tilt or in ps to see the high stakes tables and the high stakers playes. i sleep watching it, and always playing i keep a table opend to see.

I've got some opinions about some players and i want to share with yall and hear your opinions

Well... thats imposible dont start this post begining for sbrugby, sbrugby is the kind of player that you dont want to play against, he is a "boring" player, he is very hard to trap. But I perceive that theres one player that make this guy folds, and this guy is patrick antonius.

I dont know why, but in some kind of flops and situations (raises pre flop, positions), i'm sure that sb wouldnt fold, but i see that he does not like to see himself involved in a pot with PA. Probably cause PA is also really hard to trap... i see that sbrugby see in pa a very huge oponnent

Players that are too much loose and bluff a lot, always think that they are being bluffed, and i think thats the one problem in sbrugby... he wants to be the tables captain and sometimes he makes some calls that still i'm that a fish knows that he is beaten. but to me sb with all agressivity is one of the better players in online poker. he really owns... thats just you see when he sits in a HU table, nobody wants to sit to play against him... grimstar feign that he is in the shower and get out (lol)

in tilt i like also david banyamini, benyamini is a different kind of player, he is a player that raises pre flop in a short handed and dont always bet on flop like 90% of players, benyamini mix his game a lot, and it causes the impression that he always has the nuts (he often has the nuts), in my opinion david do one wrong stuff, i will tell one example and i ALWAYS see him involved in this kind of situation...

the shortstack utg raises pre flop, the cutoff guy reraises, and david in big blind pushes all in with 66, 77... in the best os hipotesys it will be a coin flip, but in majority of time he is the big underdog in this kind of situation, i preffer to believe in david read than the read of mine, but in the situations that i've seen, didnt looked like that he needed to do that... but david still owns, in my opinion the online player that better mix his game.

luc lugnley is a very good surprise to me, in the last months he is without any doubts +EV in any table that he plays, he plays a tight-agressive game, and has a very very good feeling of what kind of boards he has to do moves or not

mjorgensen, i like the game of that nurse... lol, he is a boring player to play against also and he is getting very good profits

grimstar i dont know, i know he is a good player, but i dont like one stuff that he does... he does not play against good players, i think that when sbrugby is online on tilt grimstar dont even seat at the hu table, but he has his value (even he being a hallingal costumer in ps)

now about ps...

in 25/50 tables to me ADZ, winnie pie are the best and halligall also, grim also, ifihaditall in my opinion is a good player and i apreciate also ktrieu... (sorry if i forgot someone, guys could help me to remember)

adz is the ps's sbrugby, to me is the most boring player to play against there, he plays any hands, in any positions, call reraises pre flop with nothing, cause he has a very good reading of his oponents and he desenvolve his flops in a very good way

winniepie, i like this guy, to me he has david benyamini's style, he is tighter and play generaly good hands, he does not play marginal hands or try to do stupid bluffs, i think this guy is losting his time playing nl5000...

hallingall the same, very good player but he has a very loose fame, so to hall is getting harder and harder to bluff each day, thats the kind of player that a middle pair can be the nuts, i think he has to mix a little bit more, but particularly im his biggest fan.

the other that i said are a very boring players, i like ktrieu game especialy, i think he is a very agressive player and mix his game well, i think this guy in sometime will be playing higher and higher stakes, sometimes wants to steal the pot doing crazy stuffs, but its poker...

now in negative opinioes i say: it's linda and sheldonzou (that are the same person for sure), that hit and run... a guy or girl called "persky... ... ", always hit and run also. i saw once itslinda with 8k on the table, pusing all in utg with Q9of... (?????), and her style "hit and run" sux

persky is the samething, she/he wins a big pot and get out minutes later, like dracospinger in pokerstars (100/200)

in ps i really dont like twin caracas, i think this guy is a fish, he is that kind of player that when puts 1 buck on a pot he doesnt get to fold, i think that his software just have "call, raise, all in"... sometimes i want to seat on the table just to tell him "twin, pokerstars.com to download a software with fold botton" he does not even know the meaning of "pot odds", call almost the pot value with 6 outs, play a lot calling with inside str8s... but if he is a bad player, he is also a great lucker

now i have to do some appel to yall, sometime i saw hallingall doing a boycott against shortstacks, what the problem of being a shortstack? i think the problem is hit and run, but if the guy enter with 1k in nl5000 and double it and keep playing, whats the problem?

i know your range to call raises in preflop is very high, but those shortstacks are not given pot odds to you call, so avoid them and respect their game

well guys, thats all, PLEASE, thats just my opinion, i dont want to write it like the truth, everyone has your own opinion...

good lucky everybody!! hope see you guys soon in nl 5000, and be prepared, cause im watching yall everyday!! lol

poker in vein

aejones 05-24-2007 02:52 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
tl;dr, but i did skim through and read some of it, and this is going to be great

05-24-2007 02:54 AM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

mperich 05-24-2007 03:28 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
this should be the FAQ in NVG

-Mike

Thek 05-24-2007 04:04 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
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in my opinion david do one stuff wrong

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whats your first language?

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What is your native language?

andintheend 05-24-2007 04:10 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
portuguese

SlowHabit 05-24-2007 04:14 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
A+ for effort.

Chaoslord 05-24-2007 04:21 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
this is actually a very good read, well done op [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

05-24-2007 04:38 AM

Post deleted by Mat Sklansky
 

andintheend 05-24-2007 04:42 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
blueman, do not spam the topic with secundary subjects please

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illuminati 05-24-2007 04:45 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
Hi KKF.

GoldenIP 05-24-2007 05:29 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
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Hi KKF.

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lmao.

definitely A+ for effort though.

SuperPokerJedi 05-24-2007 05:33 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
very nice work! ! ! ! !! !!! !

BobboFitos 05-24-2007 05:37 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
i loledd

adi 05-24-2007 07:13 AM

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but if he is a bad player, he is also a great lucker



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very good.

TresDeuce 05-24-2007 08:16 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
<3

TheGrifter 05-24-2007 09:37 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
This wasn't very funny.

Stinger88 05-24-2007 10:58 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
WhinnePie = David Benyamine? Not sure how this escaped my mind before.

snugglez88 05-24-2007 11:07 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
I don't think ADZ/ Dracospinner are that good compared to the others... P3achy_Keen is a sick individual.

drj003 05-24-2007 11:10 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
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blueman, do not spam the topic with secundary subjects please

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yes, please stick to the amazing points in the strategy manuscript that we have finally found. LOL!!!!!!!!

EmpireMaker2 05-24-2007 11:12 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
Yes WhinniePie is just like Beyamine couldnt make a better comparasion myself.

unbluffable 05-24-2007 11:33 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
Hello, this is my first post here, but ive been watching high stakes games for over a year. I'm a regular at 3/6 NL and i want to do make comments and see if yall agree with me. (sorry for my english errors)

Everyday when i am about to go to sleep i log on tilt or on ps to watch the high stakes tables and the high stake playes. i fall asleep after watching it, and while playing i always keep a table open to observe.

I've got some opinions about certain players and i want to share with yall and hear your opinions

Well... its imposible not to start this post beginning with sbrugby. Sbrugby is the kind of player that you dont want to play against, he is a "boring" player, he is very hard to trap. But I perceive that theres one player that make this guy fold, and this guy is patrick antonius.

I dont know why, but on certain kinds of flops and in certain situations (raises pre flop, positions), i'm sure that sb wouldnt fold, but i see that he does not like to see himself involved in a pot with PA. Probably cause PA is also really hard to trap... i see that sbrugby sees in pa a very tough oponnent

Players that are much too loose and bluff a lot always think that they are being bluffed, and i think thats the one problem in sbrugby... he wants to be the tables captain and sometimes he makes some calls when even a fish knows that he is beaten. but to me sb with all agressiveness is one of the better players in online poker. he really owns... thats just you see when he sits in a HU table, nobody wants to sit to play against him... grimstar feign that he is in the shower and get out (lol)

in tilt i like also david banyamine, benyamine is a different kind of player, he is a player that raises pre flop in a short handed and doesnt always bet on flop like 90% of players, benyamine mixes his game a lot, and it causes the impression that he always has the nuts (he often has the nuts), in my opinion david does one thing wrong. for example w and i ALWAYS see him involved in this kind of situation...

the shortstack utg raises pre flop, the cutoff guy reraises, and david in big blind pushes all in with 66, 77... in the best situation it will be a coin flip, but the majority of time he is the big underdog in this kind of situation, i prefer to believe in david read than in mine, but in situations that i've seen, it didnt look like he needed to do that... but david still owns, in my opinion the online player that better mix his game. ( i think he does that for image purposes unbluffable)

luc lugnley is a very pleasant surprise for me, in the last month he is without any doubt +EV on any table that he plays, he plays a tight-agressive game, and has a very very good feeling of what kind of boards he has to make moves or not

mjorgensen, i like the game of that nurse... lol, he is a boring player to play against also and he is making very good profits

grimstar i dont know, i know he is a good player, but i dont like one stuff that he does... he does not play against good players, i think that when sbrugby is online on tilt grimstar doesnt even seat at the hu table, but he has his value (even he being a hallingal customer in ps)

now about ps...

in 25/50 tables to me ADZ, winnie pie are the best and halligall also, grim also, ifihaditall in my opinion is a good player and i apreciate also ktrieu... (sorry if i forgot someone, guys could help me to remember)

adz is the ps's sbrugby, to me is the most boring player to play against there, he plays any hands, in any positions, call reraises pre flop with nothing, cause he has a very good reading of his opponents and he desenvolve his flops in a very good way (doesn't sound boring to me unbluffable)

winniepie, i like this guy, to me he has david benyamini's style, he is tighter and play generally good hands, he does not play marginal hands or try to do stupid bluffs, i think this guy is losing his time playing nl5000...

hallingall the same, very good player but he has a very loose fame, so to hall is getting harder and harder to bluff each day, thats the kind of player that a middle pair can be the nuts, i think he has to mix a little bit more, but particularly im his biggest fan.

the other that i said are a very boring players, i like ktrieu game especialy, i think he is a very aggressive player and mixes his game well, i think this guy in sometimes playing higher and higher stakes, sometimes wants to steal the pot doing crazy stuffs, but its poker...

now in negative opinions i say: it's linda and sheldonzou (that are the same person for sure), that hit and run... a guy or girl called "persky... ... ", always hit and run also. i saw once itslinda with 8k on the table, pusing all in utg with Q9of... (?????), and her style "hit and run" sux

persky is the same thing, she/he wins a big pot and get out minutes later, like dracospinger in pokerstars (100/200)

in ps i really dont like twin caracas, i think this guy is a fish, he is that kind of player that when puts 1 buck on a pot he doesnt get to fold, i think that his software just have "call, raise, all in"... sometimes i want to seat on the table just to tell him "twin, pokerstars.com to download a software with fold button" he does not even know the meaning of "pot odds",will call almost the pot value with 6 outs, do a lot of calling with inside str8s... but if he is a bad player, he is also a great lucker

now i have to do some appeal to yall, sometime i saw hallingall doing a boycott against shortstacks, what the problem of being a shortstack? i think the problem is hit and run, but if the guy enter with 1k in nl5000 and double it and keep playing, whats the problem?

i know your range to call raises in preflop is very high, but those shortstacks are not given pot odds to you call, so avoid them and respect their game

well guys, thats all, PLEASE, thats just my opinion, i dont want to write it like the truth, everyone has your own opinion...

good lucky everybody!! hope see you guys soon in nl 5000, and be prepared, cause im watching yall everyday!! lol

poker in vein

Kilay 05-24-2007 12:54 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
Wow, a lot of people having the same post as there first post on these forums :P

unbluffable 05-24-2007 12:58 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
its just more legible. this post is gold, i dont' want ppl to skip it because of the grammEr.

MixMastaPJ 05-24-2007 01:09 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
posting in legendary thread

Sofisdad 05-24-2007 02:04 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
'grimstar feign that he is in the shower and get out (lol)'

andintheend PWNED grimmy

andintheend 05-24-2007 02:06 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
what i wanted to say about winnie and benyamini is that both of them arent like the majority of the high staker players, they dont bet on flop after a pre flop raise always, they use much more check/call than the other players, they dont use to call or raise a pre flop raise with bad cards...

thats why i said it, and adz for examplo is much more loose, play any hand, any position... look like more sb

ehats what i wanted to say about winnie and david... and dont that they are the same person , lol

urubu111 05-24-2007 09:25 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Dadswell 05-25-2007 12:21 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
http://www.fubbershmor.com/DOdoyle.gif

MezmerizePLZ 05-25-2007 01:41 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
if anything p3achy is the 'sbrugby' of pokerstars, solid, hard to trap, good hand reader, etc has it all with a pretty tight image capable of anything. i hope thats how i'm viewed also.

I'm curious how good dracospinner is, his style is pretty unorthodox and wild aggro and i'm not sure people give him enough respect - but then again he might not deserve any lol.

some other honorable mentions:
thegrumpyone, play2kill, me(obv), DaMadPotter (?) havn't really gotten to judge him much, and i'm sure im forgetting tons but thats just off the top of my head.

MezmerizePLZ 05-25-2007 01:57 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
o, forgot yellowvette, not really sure how to view him seems pretty good though

andintheend 05-25-2007 02:39 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
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if anything p3achy is the 'sbrugby' of pokerstars, solid, hard to trap, good hand reader, etc has it all with a pretty tight image capable of anything. i hope thats how i'm viewed also.

I'm curious how good dracospinner is, his style is pretty unorthodox and wild aggro and i'm not sure people give him enough respect - but then again he might not deserve any lol.

some other honorable mentions:
thegrumpyone, play2kill, me(obv), DaMadPotter (?) havn't really gotten to judge him much, and i'm sure im forgetting tons but thats just off the top of my head.

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draco playing NL20k is harder to play against, cause i think he does much pressure in the stack of the other guys, but when im watching draco playing nl5000 i cant see this GREAT player, for sure he is not a donkey, but i think theres other players better than him, and his strategy to make pressure dont act there.

he has a great problem in my opinion, hit and run... i've seen draco playing a lot of HU against hallingall and his specially hit and run always, he simply put sit out and get out...

i like your game memorizie, i think you give the idea of playing good hands and im not remembering now to see you doing dumb stuffs like some of your partners in those tables. you really +EV

i like p3ach game also, so agressive, but im watching him i dont think he has this "pretty tight image", i think he is a little bit more loose, but the other qualities i agree with all.

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other 1 that i like is "empire2000", i think thats his nick... he is also a solid player, good reader and play a tight agressive style

MezmerizePLZ 05-25-2007 02:55 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
Yea, Empire2000 is good forgot him somehow ~_~

skiierguy 05-25-2007 08:43 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
epic

maybe you can review the 10/20 and 5/10 players next?

unbluffable 05-25-2007 10:25 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
empire2000 is roman, he's probably the most talented player on stars. his potential is practically unlimited imo. of course im biased cuz one of my best friends was friends with him in high school, although i have yet to meet him.

roma napiwi esli xochesh

Born2DogBaby 05-25-2007 10:33 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
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epic

maybe you can review the 10/20 and 5/10 players next?

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best and toughest that i've played: jaymac, festivuss, gcnmoo, nazgul, straate, gp333, thecleaner11
i cant really judge for supposed sick players like roman and mez since i havent played with them enough

warbler 05-25-2007 09:58 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
For mine theres one name missing in all of this

zanderfish = the deadliest fish in the ocean

phishguy 05-25-2007 11:16 PM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
I login occasionally to check out the high stakes.
Any thoughts on Muckemsayuhh??
I only watched him a couple times but IMO, he has the best nick name online.
Probally a 2+2 member that posts often, but I havent been a member long enough to know.

asa 05-26-2007 12:17 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
banyamini lol

Squareview 05-26-2007 01:46 AM

Re: who rulez in online high stakes?
 
LOL @ whole post. i feel bad for the french or whatever u are guy.


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