nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $106.60
BB: $103.80
UTG: $29.25
<font color="black">Hero (UTG+1): $99.50</font>
MP1: $100.40
MP2: $117.05
MP3: $100.00
CO: $26.40
BTN: $67.65

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $13.00</font>, 3 folds, BTN calls $13.00, 2 folds, Hero calls $8.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($42.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $36.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $86.50</font>, MP1 folds, BTN calls all-in for $18.65
Uncalled bet of $31.85 returned to Hero

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($167.80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

<font color="black">River:</font> ($167.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $167.80 ($3 Rake)

BTN had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces) and WON (+$97.15)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$67.65)


not really worried about the result but my two questions are is the preflop call correct and what do i do on the flop. tough hand for me becuase if i lead obv im calling a shove so tough hand

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

Don't include results in the post, it skews the answers. I don't particularly like it preflop, the re-raise and flat call signifies at least one very strong hand unless they are bad. If button is thinking he knows utg+1 raises and then a re-raises right after it mean a strong hand, and he won't calls himself without a very strong hand, especially 1/6 of his stack. If I raised like you did I would play the rest of the hand like you did. But I would have definatly folded preflop the first time around. Getting 13% of you stack in vs 2 likely strong hands, OOP, with a 1-off suited connector is hugely -EV.

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I don't mind the raise preflop, but I tend to like to be in position when playing hands like this. Unless you're running over this table I will usually fold this hand in UTG+1. That said, I think you have to call the $8 into $31 when it comes back to you.

Flop looks fine.

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

Where's the tough decision on flop? Flop's totally standard.

Pre-flop matter of preference, I don't really like it at all though

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I don't mind the raise preflop, but I tend to like to be in position when playing hands like this. Unless you're running over this table I will usually fold this hand in UTG+1. That said, I think you have to call the $8 into $31 when it comes back to you.

Flop looks fine.

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yes you do. the PF raiser made a min raise and cost himself a lot of money. you have to call this, especially closing the action.

as said, you're only behind to a better flush, or a set.

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

yea calling the $8 into $31 is fine....i dont know about raising 810s utg+1 but for switching it up so your EP raises arent getting too easily read i also do this from time to time.....but when calling this re raise this is prob. one of the best flops youll be able to see with this hand and i think flop play is fine

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

well the reason why this is a tough flop hand is becuase I think one of the villians hands is highly gonna AA becuase while teh reraise is strong the flat call is even stronger I thought it definitly looked like aa from one of them and then the flop came and If didnt think that AA was out a high portion of the time I would easily get it all in becuase ide be ahead of most ranges. What makes this so tough is that a set is going to be out there a good portion of time given the preflop action

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

If this flop didn't make you go "woo hoo! I can't wait to get it all in!" then fold this hand PF.

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

There is no reason to put them on AA- there are more combinations of AK (especially given there is an ace on the board) and a lot of people are going to play it the same PF.

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well played

Re: nl 100: tough decision on flop with monster combo draw
 

Well I just dunno know. I like the preflopraise for variation. But calling after reraised is marginal, I think. This is because you already know preflop that the button has a very strong hand and MP1 also, but especially the button (QQ++, maybe even KK++). Now the button is relatively shortstacked; this means that if there is anything of a decent flop you have almost FE against him. And if you play 108 you need some FE equity don't you? I would have liked it if you were all full stacks.

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If this flop didn't make you go "woo hoo! I can't wait to get it all in!" then fold this hand PF.

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QFT

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If this flop didn't make you go "woo hoo! I can't wait to get it all in!" then fold this hand PF.

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Exactly what I was thinking. I am not a fan of your play pre flop though. Looking through your recent post's you seem to be trying to make fancy plays allot and then you aren't exactly sure of what you should do post flop.