25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

Original opener is WhinnePie. Villain is play2kill. We're 200BB deep. I don't like any of the options. If I 4bet I probably have to fold to a 5bet. If I call I'm oop with a lot of money left to play. Folding AK preflop isn't allowed, right?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $25/$50 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $3,329.80
BB: $1,000.00
UTG: $5,000.00
UTG+1: $5,677.00
MP1: $3,919.00
<font color="black">Hero (MP2): $10,548.00</font>
CO: $15,246.00
BTN: $5,397.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $200.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $200.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $800.00</font>, 4 folds, Hero ???

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

ez fold pf imo

CO 3bet a UTG raiser..and your hand figures to be at best even money/ dominated/ you are oop/ deep..

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

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ez fold pf imo

CO 3bet a UTG raiser..and your hand figures to be at best even money/ dominated/ you are oop/ deep..

Loc: folder's club member

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Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

whatever you do, definitely don't fold. You can't really get away with raise/calling here, but despite this fact I don't actually hate a 4-bet.

I think call is fine.

-Jeff

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

4bet

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

without knowing anything about the villains, i'd say call. he won't put us on AK, so we stand to make some bets when we get there, and have some bluffing potential on medium boards if we want it.

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

call looks good to me. take a flop

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

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without knowing anything about the villains, i'd say call. he won't put us on AK, so we stand to make some bets when we get there, and have some bluffing potential on medium boards if we want it.

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play2kill is a good LAG who squeezes very frequently, especially in a stack situation like this one. He is capable of light 4 bets as well, especially when he is not the original raiser. However I think its very unlikely that he 5-bets a 4 bet here light, so like Ike said we can't really play for stacks.

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

ugh i hate calling w/ AK in spots like these for obvious reverse implied odds reasons, though I think calling is clearly better than the alternatives.

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ugh i hate calling w/ AK in spots like these for obvious reverse implied odds reasons, though I think calling is clearly better than the alternatives.

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just c/r a lot, reverse implied isn't that scary [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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ugh i hate calling w/ AK in spots like these for obvious reverse implied odds reasons, though I think calling is clearly better than the alternatives.

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our hand is going to look so much like what it is on tons of flops... but i'd almost always flat aces and kings here, so it looks good with shania

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

nobody ever expects the straight call with AK from MP 3-way...

already under-reppd the strength of your hand by not raising UTG so def call call call!

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

every option is fine

i actually like the fact that we're deep enough to fold to a 5bet if we 4bet (i highly doubt he will try some [censored] like this, he will probably level himself thinking you cold called 2nd to act with a huge hand)

i like call the best though

Re: 25/50 Ugly preflop spot with AK
 

200bb - call
100bb - push and get called by AQ