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suzy89222 05-18-2007 01:57 AM

limit holdem em semi-beginner book
 
so my boyfriend has been playing LHE for a few months, and it's time he reads a book or two. what do you guys think the best semi-beginner LHE book is? thanks.

fraac 05-18-2007 01:59 AM

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"Weighing The Odds in Texas Hold 'em" by King Yao

suzy89222 05-18-2007 02:00 AM

Re: limit holdem em semi-beginner book
 
hmm never even heard of that one, i'll check it out. thanks.

Gelford 05-18-2007 02:02 AM

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Small Stakes limit hold'em by Ed Miller is the semibeginner book

Winning in tough hold'em games by Grudzien (stox) and Herzog is the advanced book


(And Getting started in hold'em by Ed Miller is the beginners book)


That is what the 2+2 library can do for you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] (IMO the Stox book has pushed Hold'em for advanced players by Sklansky/Malmuth a bit in the background)


Edit: Weighting the odds in hold'em by Yao is a good book, but I wouldn't put it ahead of the above ones.

kassdog 05-18-2007 02:47 AM

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Would you guys recremend small stakes holdem too. I just picked this up and just by reading a couple of pages(the beggining) I feel like I've learned more than the past 4 "pro written"(hellmuth/doyle) books combined. Or do you think small stakes holdem is a little more advanced.

Adman 05-18-2007 02:47 AM

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Small stakes hold em is the best book for the limit player bar none. Internet Texas hold em by Matthew Hilger is also excellent. I strongly disagree with the recommendation of "Weighing the odds" for a beginner. It's a bit more of an advanced book and the chapters on calculating odds via his DIPO method are, in my opinion, a bit ridiculous and only serve to complicate what should be a pretty simple process. Definitely go with either SSHE or ITH and he won't go wrong.

Gonso 05-18-2007 03:33 AM

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SSHE is definitely the best choice for the situation, but I'd also consider Ed Miller's DVDs. They're aimed at the intermediate player.

suzy89222 05-18-2007 12:26 PM

Re: limit holdem em semi-beginner book
 
i also heard that winning low limit holdem by lee jones was a great one. anyone agree? thanks for all of the input.

Quebecker 05-18-2007 12:32 PM

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i also heard that winning low limit holdem by lee jones was a great one. anyone agree? thanks for all of the input.

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Winning Low Limit Hold'em by Lee Jones is a great one. But it's a beginner book. If your friend have read 1 or 2 book already, he will not find anything new in that one.

dirty banana2007 05-18-2007 08:12 PM

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The choice of which books obviously depends on his current ability, but I would recommend that Internet Texas Holdem (ITH) is read before SSHE. ITH covers areas that SSHE doesnt, such as how to play certain hands on particular flops (for example trips on a flop showing three cards of the same suit)that SSHE assumes players are already familiar with.

If he feels he isnt ready for ITH then Lee Jones Winning low limit holdem or GSIH are both excellent choices.

Adman 05-19-2007 03:48 AM

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Winning low limit hold 'em is an excellent book too. A lot of people criticize this book as earlier editions had some mistakes in them but the current (3rd) edition is very, very good. Basically I would say your choices boil down to:

1. Small stakes hold 'em by Ed Miller.

2. Internet Texas hold 'em by Matthew Hilger.

3. Winning low limit hold 'em by Lee Jones.

4. Getting started in hold 'em by Ed Miller.

Assuming your boyfriend is past the beginner stage therefore making him a beginner/ intermediate player, then go with either (or preferably both) of the first two. In my opinion they are the two best books on limit hold 'em available. At least as far as people who play "normal" limits by which I mean 10/20 or below are concerned. Ultra high stakes and middle limit games which I assume your partner doesn't play like 50/100 and higher require different strategies.

Trust me when I say those two books are the best available for the limit player. I own about 60 poker books, most of them on the subject of limit hold 'em and I still consider those two the best.

Adman 05-19-2007 03:52 AM

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By the way, one other book that is just fantastic in my opinion is "Winning Texas hold 'em. Cash game strategies for players of all skill levels" by a guy named Matt Maroon. It's one of my favorite poker books and is very underrated by most people. Some of the information in this book is just not available elsewhere and it covers strategies for players of all limits. Check that one out too.

Gelford 05-19-2007 05:00 AM

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By the way, one other book that is just fantastic in my opinion is "Winning Texas hold 'em. Cash game strategies for players of all skill levels" by a guy named Matt Maroon. It's one of my favorite poker books and is very underrated by most people. Some of the information in this book is just not available elsewhere and it covers strategies for players of all limits. Check that one out too.

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Stoxtrader just blew Maroon to smithereens

Poker Plan 05-19-2007 07:41 AM

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"Weighing The Odds in Texas Hold 'em" by King Yao

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Brilliant book. Should get the same publicity as "Small Stakes Holdem" IMHO

fraac 05-19-2007 01:17 PM

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Of course it's actually called "Weighing the Odds in Hold'em Poker", thank you for giving me a chance to correct that.

I stopped reading SSHE shortly into it as it was giving prescriptive advice, which I don't think is appropriate in a textbook, especially as the games it describe barely exist above play money only three years later.

checkmate36 05-19-2007 03:49 PM

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ITH is a very good book to get started with.

Pokamon4e 05-21-2007 06:51 AM

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Yes, ITH is very sound, very complete. SSH is a great book as well, but I'd read ITH first.

Shukakhan 05-21-2007 12:56 PM

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So where does 21ist Century Edition of Holdem Poker for Advanced Players fit into this bunch?????????

I play poker off and on due to my work reqiuring travel and a bunch of other "sh_t". I try to mostly play low-limit holdem-found that my results are more profitable. I have read every book on limit holdem several times.

I have to agree that Small Stakes Holdem has to be maybe the best.

You can leave Lee Jones books for begginers- but it is about the best intro book.

I think Yaos book is very thourough, however, all that complicated pot odds math is very distracting. Also Hilgers Internet Holdem is a good intermediate limit book.

Am I wasting my time reading Holdem Poker for Advanced Poker after I have read Small Stakes Holdem???

Is HPFAP really all that more "advanced" over Small Stakes or King Yao??

I have only read HPFAP twice and it is not the easiest book to get through- I wonder if I will just be clouding my head with more crap I do not need??

jeffnc 05-22-2007 10:58 AM

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There aren't many poker books where you're completely wasting your time. While HPFAP was influential and "important", it's not that good of a book otherwise. You'd be better off with ITH and then SSHE. Read HPFAP to pick up some tidbits after that. The important concepts are explained better in the other 2 books. Or ToP for that matter.


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