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GrandmaStabone 05-16-2007 08:24 PM

***OFFICIAL*** LOST Season 3 Episode 21 Discussion -spoiler free-
 
LOST Season 3, Episode 21 “Greatest Hits”
Episode blurb (in white)

<font color="white">Jack devises a plan to do away with "The Others" once and for all, Sayid uncovers a flaw in "The Others'" system that could lead to everyone's rescue, and Charlie's dangerous task may make Desmond's premonition come true. </font>

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Previously, on LOST….

1.) As Locke, Kate and Sayid made their way to The Others’ settlement Locke destroyed The Flame (a valuable Dharma communication hub) and killed the prisoner they found there, Mikhael. When they reached the settlement he destroyed the submarine, supposedly the last link The Others have to the outside world. Ben encouraged Locke to do this because without the submarine he can deny anyone passage home without claiming responsibility. Subsequently Ben revealed to Locke that they had his father on the island.

Afterwards, The Others left The Barracks (with Locke) Leaving behind Jack, Juliet, Kate and Sayid who returned to the main camp .

Meanwhile Ben was encouraging Locke to kill his father in order to prove himself to The Others. When Locke was unable to do it, they abandoned him. To gain re-entry to the group, Locke (now knowing that his father was the man who Sawyer had been looking for) instigated Sawyer to commit the murder.

When Locke returned to The Others with his father’s body, he used this as leverage to force Ben to take him to see ‘Jacob’. Ben took him to a barn surrounded by a perimeter of a grayish powder. Inside, Ben proceeded to have a conversation with what appeared to be thin air. Convinced Ben was insane and using a non-existent Jacob to hold power over The Others, Locke turned to leave when he heard the phrase “Help Me” in a voice that did not resemble Ben’s. Ben was very upset that Locke had heard Jacob and led him to the Dharma mass burial site, where he shot and left him.



3.) According to Desmond, the button was in place to periodically expel electromagnetic energy that builds up in the island. He also claimed that the plane crash was the result of him not pushing the button. When Locke refused to push it Desmond was forced to go under the hatch to flip a failsafe switch that would supposedly destroy the hatch (and everyone in it) as it expelled the energy.

After the hatch “imploded” Desmond awoke in his own past in the few years leading up to his crash on the island. When he tried to make decisions that would avert this, he was told that the universe is ‘self-correcting’ and that trying to avoid his fate on the island was futile. After being jolted back to the ‘current timeline’ Desmond can now see flashes of the future. As a result of this he saved Charlies’ life twice, but told him that because of the self-correcting nature of the universe that he could not save him from this fate.

Also as a result of the hatch explosion, Desmonds ex Penny (the daughter of Charles Windmere) has located the island via the electromagnetic pulse. Desmond began having visions of her coming to the island from the sky and tried to recreate the events that would lead to that outcome, including allowing the death of Charlie even though he could prevent it. In the end he chose to save Charlie, and (perhaps) as a result when the pilot ended up on the island it was not Penny, but the pilot did recognize Desmond and had a photo of he and Penny together. While they tried to give her medical attention, Mikhael responded to their distress flare, and in exchange for his medical expertise he was allowed to leave without confrontation. When the woman regained consciousness, she told Hurley that Oceanic 815 had been found with no survivors.

It was revealed that Juliette was actually planted there by Ben to retrieve samples of the women in the group, testing for pregnancy. Ben’s plan is to raid the camp and take any women that are pregnant. Sawyer had proof of this (given to him by Locke), and when it came to light Jack informed the group that Juliette (who’s loyalties may lie with the survivors after all) had told him about the impending plans and he had not passed the information on because he didn’t know how he wanted to deal with it.


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<font color="red">The Spoiler Rule


1.) Any discussion of any confirmed material/storylines that have not yet aired as part of network programming, no matter how trivial, are to be put in white. ANY RESPONSES TO SPOILERS (WHITE TEXT) ARE ALSO TO BE PUT IN WHITE. With 2 episodes left this important now more than ever. If anyone ruins this season finale for me I will hunt you down. Let it be known that I was a green belt in taekwondo when I was 14. Yeah.

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Whoever holds the conch gets to speak

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Huskiez 05-16-2007 08:27 PM

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Lord of the Flies

FieryJustice 05-16-2007 08:28 PM

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has anyone else been looking foreward to this episode more than all the ones in the past?

KingNeo 05-16-2007 08:44 PM

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has anyone else been looking foreward to this episode more than all the ones in the past?

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Yeah def a quality tv show. Should be fun.

KneeCo 05-16-2007 08:57 PM

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Consider this the Canadian 'Saw it early and it was one of the best episodes ever' post.

Season 3 started bad, but I think is ending with a series of episodes that are the strongest in Lost history.

Valsuvious 05-16-2007 09:09 PM

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Been saving my next post for this specific thread, so let me just say:

Been waiting for this [censored] for a week. GO GO GO!!!!

666th post for those wondering what I meant

Golden_Rhino 05-16-2007 09:11 PM

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I read the spoilers found here (from the spoiler thread). I can confirm that they were 100% correct for this episode. I hate myself for having read them.

Russ M. 05-16-2007 09:18 PM

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I'm glad I resisted temptation to read the spoiler threads that popped up although I saw a minor spoiler elsewhere. LOST has really come on strong as was mentioned earlier.

GrandmaStabone 05-16-2007 09:20 PM

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I read the spoilers found here (from the spoiler thread). I can confirm that they were 100% correct for this episode. I hate myself for having read them.

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I did that in season 2 and I feel like I robbed myself of an awesome TV experience I can never get back. It is so much more fun this season avoiding absolutely any future programming information. I don't even watch the previews or read the blurbs anymore. Highly recommended.

Magra 05-16-2007 09:21 PM

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I'm glad I resisted temptation to read the spoiler threads that popped up although I saw a minor spoiler elsewhere. LOST has really come on strong as was mentioned earlier.

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Is that in the 'Worst bodypart to lose' thread? I saw that damned spoiler too (although, did not read the episode spoiler), so I guess I'll just go with the flow.


CANT WAIT FOR TONIGHT AIJDBSNJASNDASD. k, I'm ready

GrandmaStabone 05-16-2007 09:23 PM

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Also, I am lolling at the [censored] who ran into a few 'average' episodes early on in the season and quit watching like the ADD tards they are.



ha ha ha

DemonDeac 05-16-2007 09:23 PM

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who's flashback is tonight?

CharlieDontSurf 05-16-2007 09:24 PM

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so psyched but im on west cvoast so got another 4 hours to go [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Russ M. 05-16-2007 09:32 PM

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Is that in the 'Worst bodypart to lose' thread? I saw that damned spoiler too (although, did not read the episode spoiler), so I guess I'll just go with the flow.

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Yeah that's the one. I can't resist when its right there, that's why I didn't click on the other links hyachahchachachcahcha.

daryn 05-16-2007 09:34 PM

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anyway, this week and from now on this thread is NO SPOILERS WHATSOEVER. no white text or anything

BillNye 05-16-2007 09:41 PM

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Is that in the 'Worst bodypart to lose' thread? I saw that damned spoiler too (although, did not read the episode spoiler), so I guess I'll just go with the flow.

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Yeah that's the one. I can't resist when its right there, that's why I didn't click on the other links hyachahchachachcahcha.

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If your talking bout the one I posted in white in the "worst body part to lose" thread, I accidently saw it earlier this week (cant resist) and had to share. I feel like some sort of virus.

Heres to hoping for another awesome epi.

Russ M. 05-16-2007 09:43 PM

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At least it WAS a minor spoiler.

BillNye 05-16-2007 09:50 PM

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lol ya, I came so close to reading the spoilers from end of the season. Luckily i resisted I did catch the following text tho:


daryn 05-16-2007 09:51 PM

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are you an idiot? you're gone from this thread

TheDealer 05-16-2007 09:54 PM

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who's flashback is tonight?

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Magra 05-16-2007 09:55 PM

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Even though its small talk, I &lt;3 how there is slowly getting more talk pre-show. Back like the old days ,when there was 50 posts before the episode started...

Kneel B4 Zod 05-16-2007 09:55 PM

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are you an idiot? you're gone from this thread

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make him gone from oot pls

Valsuvious 05-16-2007 10:00 PM

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who's flashback is tonight?

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charlie....

Nick B. 05-16-2007 10:04 PM

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yea, [censored] that tree up!

Russ M. 05-16-2007 10:04 PM

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lol gogogo jack

kkcountry 05-16-2007 10:04 PM

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more of this jack, less of the wishy washy one

roy_miami 05-16-2007 10:06 PM

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Time to die now Charlie. K, thanx.

4thstreetpete 05-16-2007 10:08 PM

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yikes it's charlie's flash, I don't like his chances. Oh well it was nice knowin you. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

daryn 05-16-2007 10:13 PM

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i kind of assumed he would die this episode anyway, just from what desmond just said (was in last week's "next week on LOST")

could be wrong though, sure

Russ M. 05-16-2007 10:13 PM

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My HD feed can stop [censored] up now kthx.

Valsuvious 05-16-2007 10:16 PM

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My HD feed can stop [censored] up now kthx.

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I don't have a HD tv. But.. when Lost is on the show is kinda fuzzy, but when the commercials are on, it's not. No other channel is like that either. So, it might not be your tv feed.

Russ M. 05-16-2007 10:16 PM

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i kind of assumed he would die this episode anyway, just from what desmond just said (was in last week's "next week on LOST")

could be wrong though, sure

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Are they making it too obvious? It seems like either that or he'll do something heroic to save everyone.

easternbloc 05-16-2007 10:18 PM

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i kind of assumed he would die this episode anyway, just from what desmond just said (was in last week's "next week on LOST")

could be wrong though, sure

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Are they making it too obvious? It seems like either that or he'll do something heroic to save everyone.

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well at this point I think he feels compelled to die . . . as much as he cares about claire I think he's willing to sacrifice his life to see her get saved

bobman0330 05-16-2007 10:18 PM

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i kind of assumed he would die this episode anyway, just from what desmond just said (was in last week's "next week on LOST")

could be wrong though, sure

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Are they making it too obvious? It seems like either that or he'll do something heroic to save everyone.

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They're laying it on pretty thick with the top 5 life moments countdown.

Russ M. 05-16-2007 10:21 PM

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Hey, Rose and Bernard.

kkcountry 05-16-2007 10:24 PM

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oh snap carl

easternbloc 05-16-2007 10:24 PM

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really they could have just had rose and bernard stand in front of the camera for a moment and say 'hay guys, we're not dead, lol'

XXXNoahXXX 05-16-2007 10:25 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
i kind of assumed he would die this episode anyway, just from what desmond just said (was in last week's "next week on LOST")

could be wrong though, sure

[/ QUOTE ]

Are they making it too obvious? It seems like either that or he'll do something heroic to save everyone.

[/ QUOTE ]


Umm both?

he'll do something heroic to save everyone....and die doing it.

T-God 05-16-2007 10:25 PM

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Why isn't it an option to asplode the cables on the beach instead of swimming down to the hatch?

mrkilla 05-16-2007 10:26 PM

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OMG OMG OMG SO AWESOME


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