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Chicago in 4 or 5
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GS in 4.
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on an unrelated note, when looking at 95-96 Bulls stats I came across strange salary figures:
Michael Jordan: 1984-85 $550,000 1985-86 $630,000 1986-87 * $737,500 1987-88 $845,000 1988-89 $2,000,000 1989-90 * $2,250,000 1990-91 $2,500,000 1991-92 $3,250,000 1992-93 $4,000,000 1993-94 $4,000,000 1994-95 $3,850,000 1995-96 $3,850,000 1996-97 $30,140,000 1997-98 $33,140,000 2001-02 $1,000,000 2002-03 $1,030,000 Career (may be incomplete) $93,772,500 Scottie Pippen: 1987-88 $725,000 1988-89 $575,000 1989-90 * $670,000 1990-91 $765,000 1991-92 $2,770,000 1992-93 $3,425,000 1993-94 $3,075,000 1994-95 $2,225,000 1995-96 $2,925,000 1996-97 $2,250,000 1997-98 $2,775,000 1998-99 $11,000,000 1999-00 $14,795,642 2000-01 $13,750,000 2001-02 $18,083,564 2002-03 $19,727,524 2003-04 $4,917,000 Whats the deal with the salaries being so low until the later 90s? |
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Warriors in 6
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bulls in 5
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on an unrelated note, when looking at 95-96 Bulls stats I came across strange salary figures: Michael Jordan: 1984-85 $550,000 1985-86 $630,000 1986-87 * $737,500 1987-88 $845,000 1988-89 $2,000,000 1989-90 * $2,250,000 1990-91 $2,500,000 1991-92 $3,250,000 1992-93 $4,000,000 1993-94 $4,000,000 1994-95 $3,850,000 1995-96 $3,850,000 1996-97 $30,140,000 1997-98 $33,140,000 2001-02 $1,000,000 2002-03 $1,030,000 Career (may be incomplete) $93,772,500 Scottie Pippen: 1987-88 $725,000 1988-89 $575,000 1989-90 * $670,000 1990-91 $765,000 1991-92 $2,770,000 1992-93 $3,425,000 1993-94 $3,075,000 1994-95 $2,225,000 1995-96 $2,925,000 1996-97 $2,250,000 1997-98 $2,775,000 1998-99 $11,000,000 1999-00 $14,795,642 2000-01 $13,750,000 2001-02 $18,083,564 2002-03 $19,727,524 2003-04 $4,917,000 Whats the deal with the salaries being so low until the later 90s? [/ QUOTE ] deferred money to get around cap issues? |
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I cant decide on an answer to the poll.
Are you basically asking if the warriors at home are the best NBA team ever? |
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reason for the higher salary for jordan was the larry bird rule which allowed a team to resign their own player for any amount over the cap.
pippens jump seems to correlate with the lockout. |
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I cant decide on an answer to the poll. Are you basically asking if the warriors at home are the best NBA team ever? [/ QUOTE ] would you expect any less from assani? |
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I cant decide on an answer to the poll. Are you basically asking if the warriors at home are the best NBA team ever? [/ QUOTE ] Well just because you're great at home doesn't make you the best ever. And just to point out, to 95-96 Bulls team lost less games ALL YEAR than GS lost at home this year. But yeah I guess that is kinda what I'm getting at: Suppose that every game was played in Golden State with the crowd just as energetic as they are for the playoffs. Would any team ever be able to beat them longterm more than 50% of the time? |
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Scottie Pippen: 1999-00 $14,795,642 2000-01 $13,750,000 2001-02 $18,083,564 2002-03 $19,727,524 [/ QUOTE ] God damn I hate Whitsitt. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] I cant decide on an answer to the poll. Are you basically asking if the warriors at home are the best NBA team ever? [/ QUOTE ] Well just because you're great at home doesn't make you the best ever. And just to point out, to 95-96 Bulls team lost less games ALL YEAR than GS lost at home this year. But yeah I guess that is kinda what I'm getting at: Suppose that every game was played in Golden State with the crowd just as energetic as they are for the playoffs. Would any team ever be able to beat them longterm more than 50% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] do they start the games ahead 10-0? |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I cant decide on an answer to the poll. Are you basically asking if the warriors at home are the best NBA team ever? [/ QUOTE ] Well just because you're great at home doesn't make you the best ever. And just to point out, to 95-96 Bulls team lost less games ALL YEAR than GS lost at home this year. But yeah I guess that is kinda what I'm getting at: Suppose that every game was played in Golden State with the crowd just as energetic as they are for the playoffs. Would any team ever be able to beat them longterm more than 50% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] do they start the games ahead 10-0? [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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Suppose that every game was played in Golden State with the crowd just as energetic as they are for the playoffs. Would any team ever be able to beat them longterm more than 50% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] If the question is assuming that the Bulls have never played this Warrior team then I think the Warriors squeak it out in a 7 game series. Bulls lost 10 of their 13 games including playoffs on the road. They also would not be familiar with the warriors style of play. This should give the warriors game 1. After game 1 it comes down to the Bulls adapting to the Warriors quick enough. Over say 21 games I think the Bulls take this quite easily. Anything can happen in a 7 game series. |
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Fun idea, but I think it'd go something like this.
GS blows out Bulls in Game 1. Game 2 is taken by GS not in a blow out, but somewhat comfortably. On the day off, MJ thinks to himself, "wait a second.. I'm MJ. No one can stop me." And Pippen thinks, "I can shut down any player on that team." Then MJ calls out everyone on the team. Harper gets into shutdown mode, Kukoc starts scoring again, etc. Then it'd be an awesome 7 game series, and game 7 is a toss up. If Warriors continue to manage shooting 50% from 3 land, then I don't think they lose. If they come down to earth, Bulls win. |
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Salaries were pretty low for all players until the late 90s. I'm not sure but I believe Shaqs contract flipped the prices upside down.
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Fun idea, but I think it'd go something like this. GS blows out Bulls in Game 1. Game 2 is taken by GS not in a blow out, but somewhat comfortably. On the day off, MJ thinks to himself, "wait a second.. I'm MJ. No one can stop me." And Pippen thinks, "I can shut down any player on that team." Then MJ calls out everyone on the team. Harper gets into shutdown mode, Kukoc starts scoring again, etc. Then it'd be an awesome 7 game series, and game 7 is a toss up. If Warriors continue to manage shooting 50% from 3 land, then I don't think they lose. If they come down to earth, Bulls win. [/ QUOTE ] Correct response |
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You people are thinking way to hard about this. Bulls in however many they feel like. LMAO at "GS will easily win game 1 because the Bulls won't be able to figure them out" That's borderline retarded.
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You people are thinking way to hard about this. Bulls in however many they feel like. LMAO at "GS will easily win game 1 because the Bulls won't be able to figure them out" That's borderline retarded. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. This GS has amazing fans crap is getting way overblown. |
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You people are thinking way to hard about this. Bulls in however many they feel like. LMAO at "GS will easily win game 1 because the Bulls won't be able to figure them out" That's borderline retarded. [/ QUOTE ] that about sums it up. fwiw, i said 5 because i think MJ takes a game off to see the city and try out for the A's [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] You people are thinking way to hard about this. Bulls in however many they feel like. LMAO at "GS will easily win game 1 because the Bulls won't be able to figure them out" That's borderline retarded. [/ QUOTE ] that about sums it up. fwiw, i said 5 because i think MJ takes a game off to see the city and try out for the A's [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] BTW, the Bulls in the Finals went 12-6 on the road under Jordan. And that's against teams actually good enough to make the Finals, which the Warriors are not. |
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Bulls lost 10 of their 13 games including playoffs on the road. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, that means their road record was a meager 37-10. The horror. |
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Clark, good to have you back
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bulls in 5 looks like the correct answer
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Roughly
15% bulls in 4 50% Bulls in 5 30% Bulls in 6 5% Bulls in 7 Basically the cance of the bulls losing either game one or losing a game being up 2-0 or even 3-1 is pretty legitimate |
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[ QUOTE ] Bulls lost 10 of their 13 games including playoffs on the road. [/ QUOTE ] Wow, that means their road record was a meager 37-10. The horror. [/ QUOTE ] also thats when they would just give away game fives when they were up 3-1 and close it out in six at home |
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[ QUOTE ] You people are thinking way to hard about this. Bulls in however many they feel like. LMAO at "GS will easily win game 1 because the Bulls won't be able to figure them out" That's borderline retarded. [/ QUOTE ] that about sums it up. fwiw, i said 5 because i think MJ takes a game off to see the city and try out for the A's [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Thank God some sanity in the thread. This isn't even close to being close. |
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OMG, it took the 2006-7 Utah Jazz to beat Golden State on their home court. How could the Bulls hope to compete?
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Is this a serious question???? How could you compare the GS Warriors to the Bulls team in 95-96, granted the GS fans are nuts, but cmon no fan can stop the 95-96 Bulls team.
What about this year's Spurs team against the 95-96 Bulls? |
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Clark is right in every single post of this thread. This series would be over in however many games Michael decided he wanted it to go.
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Umm....
With Jordan, Pippen, Harper, and Rodman playing defense this serious is over in 4 games. The Bulls wouldnt even have to play a big man, and those 4 defenders might be the greatest quatro of all time. BTW, the 95-96 Bulls were pretty good on offense too, I think they still had Jordan then. |
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OMG, it took the 2006-7 Utah Jazz to beat Golden State on their home court. How could the Bulls hope to compete? [/ QUOTE ] holy [censored] I think Clark just owned this thread like 18 different ways. LOL. Bulls in 3 because the Warriors get booed off the court and don't come back for game 4. P.S. I am rooting for GS in the playoffs and I like what they've done. But this is THE BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME |
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[ QUOTE ] OMG, it took the 2006-7 Utah Jazz to beat Golden State on their home court. How could the Bulls hope to compete? [/ QUOTE ] holy [censored] I think Clark just owned this thread like 18 different ways. LOL. Bulls in 3 because the Warriors get booed off the court and don't come back for game 4. P.S. I am rooting for GS in the playoffs and I like what they've done. But this is THE BEST TEAM OF ALL TIME [/ QUOTE ] I still don't really have an opinion on this series, but I think pointing out that Utah won one game in GS is a pretty weak reason to show that GS would lose this hypothetical. I could just as easily do this: How much better do you think the Bulls were than this year's Mavs? Here were the scores of their games in GS: 111-86 103-99 109-91 Now obviously this doesn't prove anything, but it proves just as much as Utah's win. |
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"How much better do you think the Bulls were than this year's Mavs?"
light years |
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golden state matched up well vs Dallas, they don't match up well at all vs the Bulls
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golden state matched up well vs Dallas, they don't match up well at all vs the Bulls [/ QUOTE ] I actually totally disagree. Golden State's one weakness is that they can't defend the post well and they aren't very physical inside. Because of that a guy like Carlos Boozer is giving them fits. However, the Bulls had Romdan and Longley inside- not scorers at all. I think the Warriors match up quite well with the Bulls. I'm not saying they'd win, but I disagree with your match analysis. |
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Jordan, Pippen and Rodman are alltime great defenders, and they have nobody that can slowdown Jordan
Kobe scored 43 26 42 vs GS this year for a similar player reference |
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