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As our thread on women gets hijacked with questions about men, I think it's time to start up a separate thread on the subject. Not that the discussion about men in there is bad, but it could perhaps do better on its own. Please post all new questions about the men in your life in this thread.

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I have a bold prediction: this thread will not be as popular as the thread about women.

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The men in my life? I take that as an insult, sir.

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Ok I have a question. Why do some men festoon themselves with jewelry and ornaments? I would prefer to hear an answer from someone who actually does this.

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blarg,

is it wise to assume that these are the types that know what "festoon" means?

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is it wise to assume that these are the types that know what "festoon" means?

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I'd give it about a 50% miss rate. Should be copacetic with the rest. 23 skidoo!

edit: Now I realize you mean specifically the guys wearing this stuff, not just the readers of 2+2. I'd put the guidos at a lower on the vocabulary scale.

Then again, since this is the lounge, we're dealing with probably a pretty high level of guido. Those guys could probably handle going to dictionary.com, so we probably have an effective guido level here that's pretty small. Which would suggest that this might be the wrong place to ask why guidos do what they do. Maybe there's a forum called "Disco Spaghetti" or something that would be better suited to the question.

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Ok I have a question. Why do some men festoon themselves with jewelry and ornaments? I would prefer to hear an answer from someone who actually does this.

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I do not actually do this but I would hazard a guess that it right along the same line as a peacock being colorful and having a great big tail!

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I'm having a problem communicating with the guy in my life - - his name is Luke. Any suggestions?

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Ok I have a question. Why do some men festoon themselves with jewelry and ornaments? I would prefer to hear an answer from someone who actually does this.

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I do not actually do this but I would hazard a guess that it right along the same line as a peacock being colorful and having a great big tail!

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Which is also expressed differently for different groups of people. This kind of excessively show-offy, wear your bling bling loud and proud seems typical of people whose real or perceived economic status is unsettled or precarious. Perhaps they would like to show others that this is not the case, or just feel that it is not the case, by doing it up big. The nouveau riche and people of marginal economic status seem particularly vulnerable to this kind of glaring, spendy show.

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I'm having a problem communicating with the guy in my life - - his name is Luke. Any suggestions?

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Wait till the baseball game is over.

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I'm having a problem communicating with the guy in my life - - his name is Luke. Any suggestions?

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just be cool and offer to give him a hand.

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Is 'festoon' that oddball of a word? I have a pretty limited vocabulary and have always assumed that any word I use is understood by 90%+ of the English speaking world.

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I think the rule is, if you can imagine Vinnie Barbarino making fun of it, it's not a common word.

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I think once Vinnie learned that word he would be using it all the time.

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Festoon may be known by 10%, I think. But watch out with those big words; you may be accused of sesquipedalianism and defenestrated.

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just be cool and offer to give him a hand.

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Thanks. I'll give that a shot.

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Festoon may be known by 10%, I think. But watch out with those big words; you may be accused of sesquipedalianism and defenestrated.

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As long as my butt hairs aren't deracinated.

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Ok I have a question. Why do some men festoon themselves with jewelry and ornaments? I would prefer to hear an answer from someone who actually does this.

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I thought it was mostly old guys that did the festooning of the jewelry thing. I knew a guy who thought he looked sexy in a gold chain if you can believe that. I think it's kind of sweet that guys care what they look like.

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What do guys think of today’s womens fashions? What do you like/dislike?

I'm kind of curious. Do you ever look at the way women dress these days and think it's too slutty and leaves nothing to the imagination?

And since we’re talking about jewelry. What do you guys like on girls? Do you think jewelry is gaudy?

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What do guys think of today’s womens fashions? What do you like/dislike?

I'm kind of curious. Do you ever look at the way women dress these days and think it's too slutty and leaves nothing to the imagination?

And since we’re talking about jewelry. What do you guys like on girls? Do you think jewelry is gaudy?

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How a girl dresses is very important to me...I like the casual, sexy look more than anything - jeans, t-shirt, etc. I also love when a girl knows how to dress up for an evening out without looking like a skank.

While it's good for visual stimulation, I really don't like the current trend that has young women dressing like their porn stars.

jewelry - don't really care as long as you're not wearing more than three pieces at any one time. I do prefer white gold/platinum/silver over yellow gold.

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I'm kind of curious. Do you ever look at the way women dress these days and think it's too slutty and leaves nothing to the imagination?

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No.

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There is some things that are really slutty, however they are not called "too slutty" unless they are on massive girls. THAT is leaving nothing to the imagination in a bad way. LDO.

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What do guys think of today’s womens fashions? What do you like/dislike?

I'm kind of curious. Do you ever look at the way women dress these days and think it's too slutty and leaves nothing to the imagination?

And since we’re talking about jewelry. What do you guys like on girls? Do you think jewelry is gaudy?

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1. Re women's fashions:
a) I think the pants that show your buttcrack are a bit silly.
b) I think wearing a thong with those pants is very sexy but really inappropriate most of the time. If I had a daughter running around like that showing what was in her butt crack, I'd ground her for a thousand years. If my girlfriend did that, I'd wish she kept certain things for me instead of the general populace. Hell, by the time I get around to looking at her, I'd be an also-ran in the cavalcade of ass-crack starers in her life.
c) Not a fan of green eyeshadow or anything that looks unnatural. Make-up should make you look naturally beautiful, not like something crafted. If you want to put it in a frame and hang it up for people to admire it's daring or creativity rather than just grab it and smooch it, it's an idea that has gone too far.
d) Apropos of the above, tattooed eyebrows are just weird and not at all flattering. Sorry, Pam.
e) Women should not partially shave their heads.
f) Stupid hair colors make you look stupid.\
g) It seems safe to say that of all the retarded fashions that have come along, piercing is the most retarded, closely followed by tattooing.
h) Apropos of the above, the "tramp stamp" on the lower back is almost always way too big, sloppy, and gross.
i) You already know I'm not a fan of neckboobs. Whatever you've got, ladies, real or fake, just let it look remotely human. It just looks freaky, fake, or stupid yanked into place by some bizzaro-bra.
j) I like functional necks on women. What is this business with tilting the head all the time, especially in pictures? Enough already. Didn't your mommy tell you to sit and stand up straight?
k) No clothes should be worn that you're not in shape for. If that means you think you're out of fashion, trust me, it's better than looking like a slop or a floppy squishy bucket of lard.
l) Jewelry should be treated like make-up. It should enhance what you're wearing, not dominate it or make you look crusty with bling.
m) Long fingernails can be too long. Keep it reasonable or you look retarded and can't do ordinary things.
n) Long fingernails should be kept clean. Getting all your taco bell cheese in there and then trying to suck out the spooge underneath is gross. So is leaving it there. For goodness sake, try to handle it.
o) Fashion choices should never be blamed on men. If you want to wear it, take the credit and blame at the same time. No Patriarchal conspiracy is making you wear high heels.
p) It is not fashion that makes you look your best, but being in shape, well-groomed, energetic, positive, and in good humor. A smile bumps you an automatic two points. You'll never get more value from less.

As to what I like, that's a long list too and I just got a phone call. Maybe later.

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Good list Blarg...

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Blarg's list is solid, although I don't mind push-up bras as much as he does.

Point (b) is I think especially indicative of a lot of guys. If a women dresses in a manner that I might consider too slutty, all bets are off if she's into me and I find her remotely attractive. Many guys might say a girl is dressed too slutty when he sees her across the room, but if she comes up to him and says hi, then "too slutty" will often turn into "not naked enough."

I mostly agree w/ point (g), but for whatever reason, I find belly button piercings cute and feminine. Tongue studs, eh. While I haven't gotten head from a girl w/ one, I've heard that they're overrated. Nipple piercings get my attention, but mostly because I'm looking at nipples. I'd rather just see her sans piercing. Eyebrows, lips, noses, and other places are just dumb. I have no desire to kiss a girl w/ a lip piercing.

I find formal wear very attractive on women, even though you seldom see it on any occasion other than prom night. Still, a woman who can wear a good evening dress well will usually induce wanton gawking.

I really like swishy pants on girls, especially ones that are tight around the hips. Mostly, this is a product of being a lindy hopper. A good pair of pants that fits her hips well and swishes at the bottom when she's dancing gets attention. Some girls got these wrap pants that, when untied, would be able to stretch out as a single sheet. However, when tied up, they fit like pants that have slits all the way up the outside of both legs. These have somewhat fallen out of fashion in the lindy hop community in the last few years, probably due to being overdone. However, I still think they're hot.

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about men?

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What do guys think of today’s womens fashions? What do you like/dislike?

I'm kind of curious. Do you ever look at the way women dress these days and think it's too slutty and leaves nothing to the imagination?

And since we’re talking about jewelry. What do you guys like on girls? Do you think jewelry is gaudy?

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Here's a few Don'ts:

Big dresses. The ones that ramp off the breasts and hang straight down to mid-calf. They're terrible. Unless you are anorexic, from Ethiopia or ten, they make you look shapeless , old and fat. I know that they are soooo comfortable. But, they are almost as bad as sweat suits.

Sweat suits. Not the sexy ones with the letters on the butt. But, the ones that have elastic at the bottom of the legs and come with a matching sweat shirt. Usually purchased from K-Mart by every women over thirty with kids, every time I see one of these sweat suits in solid blue, Violet Beauregarde comes to mind.

Age inappropriate clothes. If you are forty-five and wearing low-riders with a thong and a top from Hot Topic, you don't look good, you look desperate and weird. Plus, if you change into something that fits your age, your teenager might again be willing to be seen with you in public.

Mothers who dress their daughters like street walkers. I work in commercial construction in FL. Last week, I had occasion to be in a middle school that had seemingly been taken over by a convention of hookers from New Jersey. WTF? Why would any mother allow their kid to dress that way?

Make-up. Keira Knightly can pull off heavy make-up; even the raccoon eyes thing. Almost every other woman on the planet who attempts the same, ends up looking like a 4AM, domestic violence call from a double-wide trailer on the television show "COPS".

Jewelry. Please, less is more. More than 2-3 rings total and you run the risk of looking like a hand model from a pawn shop. Also, generally speaking, piercings other than ears are not great. As for the ears, Camryn Manheim should not be a role model.

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I have a personal theory. I believe much of human appearance and behaviour has been shaped strongly by sexual selection, and I think the last several thousand years of human evolution it has been the key evolutionary pressure on our species (ignoring stuff like cultural evolution).

If this is so, then a natural inference is this: men are like they are cos women like them that way, and vice versa.

Thoughts?

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I can agree with everything Blarg's list except e). I'm a huge fan of short hair on women, down to puppy butt short. Not every woman has the jaw line for it, but those that do are amazing.

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1. Re women's fashions:
a) I think the pants that show your buttcrack are a bit silly.
b) I think wearing a thong with those pants is very sexy but really inappropriate most of the time. If I had a daughter running around like that showing what was in her butt crack, I'd ground her for a thousand years. If my girlfriend did that, I'd wish she kept certain things for me instead of the general populace. Hell, by the time I get around to looking at her, I'd be an also-ran in the cavalcade of ass-crack starers in her life.


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This is something I was curious about and I'm glad you addressed it. Yes sure, there are so many beautiful girls walking around out there that can pull off the low jeans/thong look, and they pull it off well. But if you were to start to date a girl who attracted you this way, wouldn't you kind of wonder why she kept dressing in this manner as she was obviously turning on a lot of other guys by being so provocative. Or is it, as my boyfriend claims, that the fact she is turning on other guys is a total turn-on. In other words, do men want other men to be panting after their girl?

btw, once I was eating dinner at Don Pablos and this college-age girl and her mother sat down at a table near us and we had full view of the girls back and pretty little thong (her shirt was too short to cover it). Throughout the course of dinner, she tried to pull the shirt down to cover her bare back. It was pretty distracting, let me tell you. My boyfriend enjoyed it (you should have seen his eyes pop out of his head!) but I thought it was a bit much. She might as well have just sat down in her bra, it was that sexy. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]



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n) Long fingernails should be kept clean. Getting all your taco bell cheese in there and then trying to suck out the spooge underneath is gross. So is leaving it there. For goodness sake, try to handle it.


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Well thank you Blarg. This is possibly the grossest thing I've ever read on these forums. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I think I'm going to be sick.

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New Question -

Have you ever lied to your girl? What was it about? Why do guys lie? This is a topic that one of my girlfriends and I bitch about because we both experience it on a weekly basis. We have guys who lie about dumb things. (an example of a dumb thing - "I'll be there in about 15 minutes. I just got on the interstate." uh yeah, sure you did. I can hear your buddies in the background [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

It seems to me that it would take more effort to concoct the lie then to just tell the truth and not stress about it.

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Oh .my stars! NO WAY!

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Oh .my stars! NO WAY!

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yeah but if I were a guy, I wouldn't want my girl strutting around in front of my friends. I just wouldn't like that. I think I'm more conservative than you.

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In other words, do men want other men to be panting after their girl?


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During my 'had a hot blonde girlfriend' days, I got pretty tired of it.

Standard: we're walking down the mall. Guy is coming toward us. Looks my gf up and down, then just as we pass looks right at me with a "what are you going to do about it?" challenge. I would just stare back, but it got tiresome.

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Or is it, as my boyfriend claims, that the fact she is turning on other guys is a total turn-on.

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Oh .my stars! NO WAY!

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yeah but if I were a guy, I wouldn't want my girl strutting around in front of my friends. I just wouldn't like that. I think I'm more conservative than you.

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Huh? I wa saying that pretty much, and actually being turned on by it? sheesh.

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Have you ever lied to your girl? What was it about? Why do guys lie? This is a topic that one of my girlfriends and I bitch about because we both experience it on a weekly basis. We have guys who lie about dumb things. (an example of a dumb thing - "I'll be there in about 15 minutes. I just got on the interstate." uh yeah, sure you did. I can hear your buddies in the background [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

It seems to me that it would take more effort to concoct the lie then to just tell the truth and not stress about it.

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Sure I have lied. Much more in the past when I was younger. Now I just forget things. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Not going to tell you about what! Too many things to list really. But normally just really small stuff.

I think guys lie just so they will, hopefully, not have to listen to listen to the whining and bitching if they tell the truth. No offense intended. I mean a lot of times a guy will see something in a totally different light and not nearly as important to him as it is to his gal. Gal sees it as more important and has to tell him about it, ergo whining and bitching which the guy just doesn't want to hear.

The problem with telling the truth and not stressing about it is that most guys have tried that and been bitched at therefor creating stress. After that they tried telling a little white lie to avoid the bitching and it worked, no stress.

Now that I am older, I have come to the realization that it is far better to just tell the truth because it just doesn't matter if you lie or tell the truth, your still going to have to hear about it either way! [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
At least if you have told the truth your conscience is clear and Karma is good.

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Oh .my stars! NO WAY!

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yeah but if I were a guy, I wouldn't want my girl strutting around in front of my friends. I just wouldn't like that. I think I'm more conservative than you.

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Huh? I wa saying that pretty much, and actually being turned on by it? sheesh.

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Ahh, humanity. Wide range of humans.
I have known guys who look to fight anyone who 'looks' at their girlfriend.
I have known guys who have encouraged their girlfriends to let them watch multiple men get it on with them.
Fortunately most fall somewhere in the middle.

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What do guys think of today’s womens fashions? What do you like/dislike?

I'm kind of curious. Do you ever look at the way women dress these days and think it's too slutty and leaves nothing to the imagination?

And since we’re talking about jewelry. What do you guys like on girls? Do you think jewelry is gaudy?

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first, I loved the use of the word festooned.

Now to the distinction of womens' fashions vs girls' fashions.
I love wild colored hair on girls. bold statement. after age 20 or so it is lame unless you spend time on stage.
Jewelry, keep it understated, an accessory, not luggage. Applies to all ages.
Tattoos.....If you didn't get one by 1990 it better have a personal meaning. If you fish, get a fish, if you fly balloons, get a balloon.
Tattoos part 2. The tramp stamp....first of all the wearer can't see it, the only one who can see it is the guy who talked her into getting on all fours....I can't think that is a positive public statement.
Tattoos part 3. OTOH, I am not offended by the full body tattoo folks. For them it is a life statement, not a passing mood. One hopes.
Cleavage: Has it's place. and hyde likes the cleavage. I hope NO woman however thinks if she is choosing to share the visual that any man, other than our gay friends, is paying total attention to anything they might be saying. Please don't be that dumb.
The slutty look: hyde has been seduced by the slutty look on more than a few occasions. so it is effective. However that leads to ones' defintion of eternity I recently shared on another forum. What is the definition of eternity? From the time you come to the time she goes.

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katy,

I really hope your boyfriend has a lot of wonderful qualities that make you smile and feel adored.

Men,

What are your opinions about your girlfriend making new male friends while she is dating you?

How about close male friends she has had for a long time?

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1. Re women's fashions:
a) I think the pants that show your buttcrack are a bit silly.
b) I think wearing a thong with those pants is very sexy but really inappropriate most of the time. If I had a daughter running around like that showing what was in her butt crack, I'd ground her for a thousand years. If my girlfriend did that, I'd wish she kept certain things for me instead of the general populace. Hell, by the time I get around to looking at her, I'd be an also-ran in the cavalcade of ass-crack starers in her life.


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This is something I was curious about and I'm glad you addressed it. Yes sure, there are so many beautiful girls walking around out there that can pull off the low jeans/thong look, and they pull it off well. But if you were to start to date a girl who attracted you this way, wouldn't you kind of wonder why she kept dressing in this manner as she was obviously turning on a lot of other guys by being so provocative. Or is it, as my boyfriend claims, that the fact she is turning on other guys is a total turn-on. In other words, do men want other men to be panting after their girl?

btw, once I was eating dinner at Don Pablos and this college-age girl and her mother sat down at a table near us and we had full view of the girls back and pretty little thong (her shirt was too short to cover it). Throughout the course of dinner, she tried to pull the shirt down to cover her bare back. It was pretty distracting, let me tell you. My boyfriend enjoyed it (you should have seen his eyes pop out of his head!) but I thought it was a bit much. She might as well have just sat down in her bra, it was that sexy. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]



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n) Long fingernails should be kept clean. Getting all your taco bell cheese in there and then trying to suck out the spooge underneath is gross. So is leaving it there. For goodness sake, try to handle it.


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Well thank you Blarg. This is possibly the grossest thing I've ever read on these forums. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I think I'm going to be sick.

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Turning on the guys is one thing; how far you go to do it is another. I just think it's bad taste to go that far. Attention-wh*ring. And like I said, it just seems like a pretty silly fashion. Wearing your underwear with great fanfare so everyone can see it seems a bit dumb.

I think if you're not pretty enough to get men's attention without leaving your ass crack hanging out, you should probably just work on your personality instead. I mean, sure, your ass crack will attract guys, but so will running up and rubbing your crotch on their leg. There's such a thing as overkill.

Also, I think the behavior you describe that goes with it is stupid. Wearing something that can't possibly cover you up and then making a huge show of tugging at it all the time to just "pretend" cover up because of your totally fake modesty -- but really just to get everybody looking at your goodies and asserting their priority every other second no matter what, is retarded. If you want to leave all your goodies hanging out all over the place, stop playing with them. And don't act like you're trying to be modest, for goodness sake. Constantly yanking on your goods in public because you're only half-dressed(often accompanied by looking around to see if anyone is watching) is pretty much the opposite of modesty.