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I've been playing alot of omaha lately the past 6 days, I would say I've been playing well but just not running well in big pots. I feel like I have a good grasp of what the game is about. The only thing I don't know about are the numbers on poker tracker, so I was wondering if someone could give me a brief description of some good numbers and what I should be looking for or if it's basically the same as the poker tracker stats for hold'em. Thanks

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You don't want to use PokerTracker, because it spys on you and then other people (Gold PT members) can see you're hole cards if they are at the same table.

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huh?

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If you are playing PLO I'd say you don't bet enough preflop.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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maybe troll is subtly suggesting you read of the thousand other threads posted about this exact subject every other day

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There are significant differences in how you apply the informantion for yourself and other players.

For instance, with about 20k hands you can get some good ideas about how well ATo is doing with regard to other starting hands. Since I have about 1700 different starting hands in PTO, this obviously doesn't work as well because I have only played each a few times.

I use the Gametime window every time, but VP$IP is of little value, but pfr% is pretty informative when you are debating whether to limp with a marginal hand. The AF for other players is good to watch too. You need a lot more hands to get a valid estimate of a player's abilities from their win rate because Omaha is so volitile.

I still recomend people buy and use PTO, but the whole concept of statistical analysis works best on Limit Holdem and least well on PLO. It is worth the money even if all you use it for is tracking your performance and adding up you wins and losses for your income tax report.

My best tip: After you accumulate several thousand hands, go to the Summery Tab and click on More Detail.

If you think you have a good grasp of what the game of Omaha is about, you probably have a lot to learn. You probably don't know what you don't know. You'll find out.

And keep reading the forum.

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I know I have alot to learn and have a long way to go. Right now in my game, I have a very good idea of what it is about and I'm only trying to get better. But I just wanted to know what the numbers meant for me and my opponents.

And thanks again for giving me an actual answer regarding to my question.

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Now you got me curious, so I did a search on the Omaha forum using the keyword, "Tracker".

I was right, in general it is useless. Well, not always absolutly useless, but of much less value than you would assume.

During play, you might do better to pay attention to how people are playing and take notes than watching the PT stats. I am starting to figure that out.

Here is the best thread with some actual numbers in it:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...page=&vc=1

I believe alot of the reason has to do with the following factors:

Ohama is more of a post-flop game than a pre-flop game. Premium starting hands are no more than a 60:40 favorite against most playable starting hands, whereas in Holdem As are a 80:20 favorite over Ks.

The average pot size is larger with respect to the Big Blind.

Pot sizes are more variable. Some pots are a hundred times the size of an uncontested blind steal, but you rarely see a sucsessful blind steal in Omaha.

In otherwords, Omaha is designed to be a high action game.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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I have been taking alot of notes of players in my PLO tracker and I update my notes on full tilt. So far they have been very helpful, I basically use the AF on my poker hud to see how aggressive they are.

If you are a card runners member, you should definitely take a look at Brian Townsend's plo videos. They have seriously helped my game and give alot of great insight to making your game better.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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I'm training you to use the forum correctly.

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I hope I pass. I normally choke in these types of situations.

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Look for large green numbers

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If you are a card runners member, you should definitely take a look at Brian Townsend's plo videos. They have seriously helped my game and give alot of great insight to making your game better.

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No offence to you or brian, but those videos are pretty damn basic.

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If you are a card runners member, you should definitely take a look at Brian Townsend's plo videos. They have seriously helped my game and give alot of great insight to making your game better.

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No offence to you or brian, but those videos are pretty damn basic.

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Well I just started playing PLO like 2 weeks ago, so I guess I watched the right videos then. Do you have any other videos I can watch that would be good?

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If there was enough interest (read - any interest) I would strongly consider doing my own.

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I wouldn't mind watching you play plo.

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I need one more person to say they're interested, and the promise of a meagre payment ($15 will do), and I will do a video. Whether or not I release that video is dependent on how good I think it is.

Would you prefer HU, 6-max or full ring?

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I need one more person to say they're interested, and the promise of a meagre payment ($15 will do), and I will do a video. Whether or not I release that video is dependent on how good I think it is.

Would you prefer HU, 6-max or full ring?

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6max video, interested.

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I would be interested as well.

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Suicide don't blow a gasket man. I myself haven't been playing that long either, but I think they are right about the stats here. NLH I'm a TAG player. PLO Im loose as hell. My stats are all over the place. You can't go by those stats. On one street you are up and the next street you can be fighting off two-three different draws that can pop your nutz. This game is really all about post flop play.

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I'd be interested in a 6max PLO video as well.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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Suicide don't blow a gasket man. I myself haven't been playing that long either, but I think they are right about the stats here. NLH I'm a TAG player. PLO Im loose as hell. My stats are all over the place. You can't go by those stats. On one street you are up and the next street you can be fighting off two-three different draws that can pop your nutz. This game is really all about post flop play.

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Im fine. I got some of this same sarcastic [censored] before in the NLHE forum. I've seen some of trolls posts, and kind of wanted something better than that. Its cool and thanks for the help with this. I forget who posted the link to an earlier poker tracker post, that was very helpful thank you.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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Suicide don't blow a gasket man. I myself haven't been playing that long either, but I think they are right about the stats here. NLH I'm a TAG player. PLO Im loose as hell. My stats are all over the place. You can't go by those stats. On one street you are up and the next street you can be fighting off two-three different draws that can pop your nutz. This game is really all about post flop play.

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Im fine. I got some of this same sarcastic [censored] before in the NLHE forum. I've seen some of trolls posts, and kind of wanted something better than that. Its cool and thanks for the help with this. I forget who posted the link to an earlier poker tracker post, that was very helpful thank you.

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No problem. I really don't prefer the advice in the NLHE postings. I also understand where you are coming from with the attitude. Seems to me they are the type that write something down to throw you off or really not help improve your game. Im loving this PLO thing like yourself. Its a quicker grind. Hell I busted out a couple of times to variance, but Im having more fun and making more money.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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Suicide don't blow a gasket man. I myself haven't been playing that long either, but I think they are right about the stats here. NLH I'm a TAG player. PLO Im loose as hell. My stats are all over the place. You can't go by those stats. On one street you are up and the next street you can be fighting off two-three different draws that can pop your nutz. This game is really all about post flop play.

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Im fine. I got some of this same sarcastic [censored] before in the NLHE forum. I've seen some of trolls posts, and kind of wanted something better than that. Its cool and thanks for the help with this. I forget who posted the link to an earlier poker tracker post, that was very helpful thank you.

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No problem. I really don't prefer the advice in the NLHE postings. I also understand where you are coming from with the attitude. Seems to me they are the type that write something down to throw you off or really not help improve your game. Im loving this PLO thing like yourself. Its a quicker grind. Hell I busted out a couple of times to variance, but Im having more fun and making more money.

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Its really an interesting game and its something I really want to get better at. So far so good for the past 5 days.

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Can I ever get a clear response from anyone on this [censored] forum. i just want to know what I should look for in my poker tracker stats. Instead I get some [censored] response.

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Suicide don't blow a gasket man. I myself haven't been playing that long either, but I think they are right about the stats here. NLH I'm a TAG player. PLO Im loose as hell. My stats are all over the place. You can't go by those stats. On one street you are up and the next street you can be fighting off two-three different draws that can pop your nutz. This game is really all about post flop play.

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Im fine. I got some of this same sarcastic [censored] before in the NLHE forum. I've seen some of trolls posts, and kind of wanted something better than that. Its cool and thanks for the help with this. I forget who posted the link to an earlier poker tracker post, that was very helpful thank you.

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No problem. I really don't prefer the advice in the NLHE postings. I also understand where you are coming from with the attitude. Seems to me they are the type that write something down to throw you off or really not help improve your game. Im loving this PLO thing like yourself. Its a quicker grind. Hell I busted out a couple of times to variance, but Im having more fun and making more money.

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Its really an interesting game and its something I really want to get better at. So far so good for the past 5 days.

[/ QUOTE ] Same here. I've busted a bk roll on NLH, FLH, and been on a couple of sites. Im still up though. Well breakeven player until I started taking PLO seriously and some NL 6 max tables this pass couple of weeks. I really think you can do well at it b/c people are so into NLH and they forget about the other games like PLO. Whats weird is my mind state is very calm when it goes to tilting too. How can you really tilt unless you are a pro PLO player? You have to expect to lose at one point here and there.

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I am also interested in a 6max video and I could pay for it.

Good luck at the tables.

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I'd be most interested if you did your PLO video naked.

Also, didn't beset already do a video?

p.s. why didn't you chuckleheads start a new "video" thread? I guess eventually you'll get the hang of this internet thing!

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If there was enough interest (read - any interest) I would strongly consider doing my own.

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I'd be most interested if you did your PLO video naked.

Also, didn't beset already do a video?

p.s. why didn't you chuckleheads start a new "video" thread? I guess eventually you'll get the hang of this internet thing!

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So I guess I failed then?

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I have been taking alot of notes of players in my PLO tracker and I update my notes on full tilt. So far they have been very helpful, I basically use the AF on my poker hud to see how aggressive they are.

If you are a card runners member, you should definitely take a look at Brian Townsend's plo videos. They have seriously helped my game and give alot of great insight to making your game better.

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Wait, can you import export player notes between FTP and PTO?

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6max video, interested.

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I have been taking alot of notes of players in my PLO tracker and I update my notes on full tilt. So far they have been very helpful, I basically use the AF on my poker hud to see how aggressive they are.

If you are a card runners member, you should definitely take a look at Brian Townsend's plo videos. They have seriously helped my game and give alot of great insight to making your game better.

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Wait, can you import export player notes between FTP and PTO?

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I don' think you can which kind of sucks, I just transfer them over when I play which takes a little bit of time. If you find out if you can do it, let me know.