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asb165 02-17-2006 02:35 PM

USA Women\'s Hockey Pathetic
 
0 goals in the shootout, even with a do-over on one. Lame.

cdxx 02-17-2006 02:39 PM

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deleting my other thread on the same topic.

women's sports suck, but this is awesome.

i am actually happy usa lost. i can't stand the commentary.

Daysleeper 02-17-2006 02:43 PM

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Sweden Sweden Sweden!!!
Words cannot describe how awesome this is


Now if only we could beat Canada

Hopey 02-17-2006 02:45 PM

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0 goals in the shootout, even with a do-over on one. Lame.

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Wow...I can't believe the US lost to Sweden. That's hilarious. I watched a bit this morning and the US was up 2-1. I figured they'd start pulling away fairly soon and the game would get dull.

Serves them right for spending so much energy whining about how Canada kept running up their scores.

Sabrazack 02-17-2006 02:49 PM

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Bwahahahaha, now if only the swedish guys could get their act together...

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 02:59 PM

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The Swedish goalie was just ridiculously good this game. She won this game. The third period was pretty close, but the US dominated play through the first two and just didn't get the puck in the net. I can't belive Ruggiero missed that penalty shot.

Overall, it was one of the best hockey games I've seen in a long time. Disappointing for sure, but a great game.

MrFeelNothin 02-17-2006 03:00 PM

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Maybe its just me, but I don't understand how failing to score in a shootout makes the US Womens Hockey team pathetic.

asb165 02-17-2006 03:05 PM

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0/5 in the shootout, probably were 3-4 goal favorites, and all they do is talk about the Canadians. Well, good luck against Finland. This was a pathetic choke.

Now I get to hear about how Lindsay Jacobellis is a show-off by Bob Costas for an hour and see 4 hours of tape-delayed ice dancing tonight.

NBC=Lame

kschellenger 02-17-2006 03:06 PM

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Maybe its just me, but I don't understand how failing to score in a shootout makes the US Womens Hockey team pathetic.

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Everyone familiar with womens hockey pegged the US for the gold or silver, easily. Plus I believe the US is something like 44-0-1 all time in international games against any team other than Canada.

2+2 wannabe 02-17-2006 03:08 PM

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0/5 in the shootout, probably were 3-4 goal favorites, and all they do is talk about the Canadians. Well, good luck against Finland. This was a pathetic choke.

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did the USA not even qualify for the medal round?

asb165 02-17-2006 03:17 PM

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They play for the bronze against the loser of Canada/Finland

junsie 02-17-2006 03:19 PM

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Could be worse, they could be Italy's women's team that lost 16-0, bye bye funding.

Hopey 02-17-2006 03:21 PM

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Maybe its just me, but I don't understand how failing to score in a shootout makes the US Womens Hockey team pathetic.

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The game should have never reached a shoot-out in the first place. They should have steamrolled over the Swedes. That being said, from all accounts the Swedish goalie won the game single-handedly, and a goalie winning a game on his/her own has been known to happen.

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 03:29 PM

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This was not by any means a pathetic showing by the US. It was an absolutely ridiculous winning performance by the Swedish goalie. Anybody who watched the game saw that the US dominated play but were beaten by an ubelievably hot goalie. This happens - anybody remember Hasek carrying the Czecks to the gold a few years ago?

HDPM 02-17-2006 03:42 PM

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0 goals in the shootout, even with a do-over on one. Lame.

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Wow...I can't believe the US lost to Sweden. That's hilarious. I watched a bit this morning and the US was up 2-1. I figured they'd start pulling away fairly soon and the game would get dull.

Serves them right for spending so much energy whining about how Canada kept running up their scores.

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Once they whined it was obvious they were a bunch of losers. Bunch of American athletes are losers at this Olympics. The bode miller guy, the snowboarder who showed off and fell and lost, the figure skater who couldn't find his aura. Losers. Give them Cubs hats, Manning jerseys, and send them home to a parade with Holmgren blaming the refs. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Bulldog 02-17-2006 03:45 PM

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0 goals in the shootout, even with a do-over on one. Lame.

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Wow...I can't believe the US lost to Sweden. That's hilarious. I watched a bit this morning and the US was up 2-1. I figured they'd start pulling away fairly soon and the game would get dull.

Serves them right for spending so much energy whining about how Canada kept running up their scores.

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Once they whined it was obvious they were a bunch of losers. Bunch of American athletes are losers at this Olympics. The bode miller guy, the snowboarder who showed off and fell and lost, the figure skater who couldn't find his aura. Losers. Give them Cubs hats, Manning jerseys, and send them home to a parade with Holmgren blaming the refs. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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nice

Spaderess 02-17-2006 04:31 PM

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1. You guys are way too quick too critizise your own athletes.

We on this side have always been amazed how american athletes always seems to show their best in the big championships. You're probably too spoiled. As soon as one of them has a bad performance, he gets eaten up. Be proud when they do well and supportive when they don't.

2. It is not easy to score on shoot-outs.

3. US were the better team, but Sweden showed more heart. The swedish "Lady Crowns" wanted to win more and therefore deserved the win. They were also probably more mentaly prepared for OT and shoot-outs.

4. Sweden is still way behind US and Canada, but a lot closer than four years ago and the gap will probably continue to shrink. Sweden is also a lot closer than many of you think. Many experts here had actually predicted that Sweden would beat US in the semi.

5. Sweden have quite a few very good players, but only one truly word class player (Kim Martin) and might be the best goalie in the world. She won the bronze game much the same way in Salt Lake City.

Edit: Compleated Number 2

2+2 wannabe 02-17-2006 04:48 PM

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This was not by any means a pathetic showing by the US. It was an absolutely ridiculous winning performance by the Swedish goalie. Anybody who watched the game saw that the US dominated play but were beaten by an ubelievably hot goalie. This happens - anybody remember Hasek carrying the Czecks to the gold a few years ago?

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the swedes got 2 gift goals on 2 horrendous defensive giveaways

THAY3R 02-17-2006 04:53 PM

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Dude, it's Women's Hockey.

HDPM 02-17-2006 05:50 PM

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But in this Olympics several American athletes showed their worst. I mean, the figure skating guy was crying about the bus and literally talked about his aura and feeling black inside because of the bus before going out and being a loser. Of course Sweden showed more heart. The US had a team of losers whining that Canada was too mean. Of course they wouldn't have any heart. Of course Sweden was more mentally prepared. The Americans showed they weren't mentally prepared by whining about Canada. Champions don't do that. It was obvious beforehand, the question was simply when the Americans would collapse. So I don't think Americans are that bad on their athletes, but yes, losing is frowned upon, as is being a loser. And the above mentioned were all losers in this Olympics. It isn't just about winning, because some winners can finish down the list, but a question of heartless losers collapsing and in some cases being embarrasments.

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 05:53 PM

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Was the US women's hockey team complaining about Canada or about Sweden laying down in their game against Canada? The thought was Sweden just didn't try against Canada and saved their energy for the semifinal game against the US.

Pudge714 02-17-2006 05:56 PM

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Overall, it was one of the best hockey games I've seen in a long time. Disappointing for sure, but a great game.

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Seriously do you ever watch hockey? If so I don't see how you could say this game, or for that matter any women's game is one of the best you have ever seen.

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 06:06 PM

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Overall, it was one of the best hockey games I've seen in a long time. Disappointing for sure, but a great game.

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Seriously do you ever watch hockey? If so I don't see how you could say this game, or for that matter any women's game is one of the best you have ever seen.

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Yes, I've seen my share of hockey games, although I've only been playing the game for about 22 years. Did you watch the game?

roundmound 02-17-2006 06:20 PM

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Overall, it was one of the best hockey games I've seen in a long time. Disappointing for sure, but a great game.

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Seriously do you ever watch hockey? If so I don't see how you could say this game, or for that matter any women's game is one of the best you have ever seen.

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Yes, I've seen my share of hockey games, although I've only been playing the game for about 22 years. Did you watch the game?

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Less skill, less speed and less athleticism than any NHL game, how could this be one of the greatest games ever?

SharkTank43 02-17-2006 06:28 PM

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Less skill, less speed and less athleticism than any NHL game, how could this be one of the greatest games ever?

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In my eyes, that has little to do with how good a game is. Some of the best football games I have witnessed were high school games, and they have less skill, speed, and athleticism then college and pro players.

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 06:32 PM

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Overall, it was one of the best hockey games I've seen in a long time. Disappointing for sure, but a great game.

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Seriously do you ever watch hockey? If so I don't see how you could say this game, or for that matter any women's game is one of the best you have ever seen.

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Yes, I've seen my share of hockey games, although I've only been playing the game for about 22 years. Did you watch the game?

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Less skill, less speed and less athleticism than any NHL game, how could this be one of the greatest games ever?

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I'm not saying it's the greatest game ever, just the best I've seen in a while. It was a very close game, tied from the 2nd period on through a shootout, had a lot of great exciting scoring chances, great penalty killing, and a lot of intensity. It was a game with a lot of great offensive chances and a goalie who was absolutely on fire. It doesn't have to be the Stanley Cup finals to be a great game. It could be a bantam game and still be a great game if it's well played.

ftball0000 02-17-2006 06:40 PM

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I honestly must agree Patrick, I am a big time hockey fan, and I really enjoyed watching this game. I cannot stand most women's sports, but this game was suprisingly entertaining and enjoyable to watch

-Ftball

Pudge714 02-17-2006 06:42 PM

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I can't believe someone with such an awesome avatar, could ever have such a bad take.

I would rather watch any NHL playoff game than the USA vs. Sweden game. While it was close I don't think it wwas a good game because of the lack of individual skill and speed of every single player on the ice.

HDPM 02-17-2006 06:42 PM

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What I read was complaining about Canada running up scores, although goals scored is a tiebreaker.

roundmound 02-17-2006 06:42 PM

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Shark, Patrick- I agree it doesn't have to be the highest level for it to be a great game. But both teams should be playing about as good as they can for it to be great. If its a close game becuase one team makes a bunch of silly mistakes, its not a great game. Usually mistake free high intensity games only occur at the highest levels.

SharkTank43 02-17-2006 06:48 PM

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OK, now I think I agree with what you are saying.

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 06:50 PM

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This was a very well-played game with exactly two mistakes made that the Swedes were good enough to take advantage of. It doesn't have to be an NHL playoffs game or the men's olympic games to be great. If you're truly a fan of the game, then you can appreciate great games at any level.

Cancuk 02-17-2006 08:28 PM

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Many experts here had actually predicted that Sweden would beat US in the semi.

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Funny.

Do you think that any "experts" outside of Sweden predicted this?

Cancuk 02-17-2006 08:29 PM

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Now if only we could beat Canada

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Funny.

jstnrgrs 02-17-2006 08:52 PM

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Shootouts are lame (and I have always thought this regardless of the result). I don't see why they can't play until there is a winner (ala Stanley Cup playoffs).

Patrick del Poker Grande 02-17-2006 09:12 PM

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Shootouts are lame (and I have always thought this regardless of the result). I don't see why they can't play until there is a winner (ala Stanley Cup playoffs).

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Agreed. Shootouts are not hockey.

Silent A 02-17-2006 10:10 PM

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Many experts here had actually predicted that Sweden would beat US in the semi.

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Funny.

Do you think that any "experts" outside of Sweden predicted this?

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I heard that Hayley Wickenheiser predicted that Canada might meet Sweden because Martin could stone the U.S.


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