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Shannon Elizabeth and Annie Duke cheating

Seems so standard to hear stories like this about Duke.

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wtf

also OP: can you possibly rework the title of your thread to;

"Annie Duke and Shannon Elizabeth [censored]ed me in the Playboy Mansion"

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he should have offered annie a nice cup of shut the [censored] up.

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Whoa whoa guys. Haven't you seen the WPT lawsuit website?

According to Raymer and co., Annie Duke is the BEST female poker player in the history of the world!

How could the BEST female poker player in the history of the world ever do something like that?

It's mind blowing!

On a serious note... no one likes Annie Duke, and this is one reason why. And kudos to Esfandiari for not being with Shannon Elizadumb anymore.

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That's seriously [censored] up. I really like Terrence, his blog is awesome and he seems like an all around great guy. It really sucks to see this type of BS happen to him.

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this reminds me of the time Annie Duke grabbed someone's cards after the hand was over and looked at them; I don't remember the details but it was on TV and they were playing for real money (the TOC where she won 2 mil maybe)... I was stunned to see a "professional" do something I hadn't seen outside of .01/.02 home games... now I know she's just a [censored] with no honor

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Thanks for linking to my new avatar.

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Cliff notes?

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Annie Duke told Steve Dannenman, who was drunk at the time, to fold every hand which would ensure he would win the tournament in the next few min (TD cut it short because they didn't budget time correctly). This just barely screwed Terrence out of a WSOP seat and was super lame of Annie since she was in essence being illegal by telling Danneman in the hand what to do. Gotta read the story for true details.

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Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting?

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Kind of ironic that Annie is banging Shannon's ex-husband.

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Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting?

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I wouldn't put too much blame on Shannon since she is relatively new to poker and may not have known the ethical implications of talking about colluding in order to ensure a better prize. Oh wait, isn't that common sense?

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Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting?

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I wouldn't put too much blame on Shannon since she is relatively new to poker and may not have known the ethical implications of talking about colluding in order to ensure a better prize. Oh wait, isn't that common sense?

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Trust me, chicks like Shannon are just used to people being so in love with they way she looks that she can get away with anything. This is par for her course.

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LBK,

I also don't doubt that she can afford to pay her own way for a WSOP seat, which makes this even more lame.

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Kind of ironic that Annie is banging Shannon's ex-husband.

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Good call, I recently saw him do a cameo on Episode #2 of The Shield. He had a series of pornographic films entitled "Dick'in Granny" (not making this up). Anyway, he did a good job and I remembered that he was railing Annie Duke at the '06 WSOP and at the NBC Heads Up tourney. I did find it weird that Shannon was celebrating when she hit her re-draw on Nam Le's with Q7.

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why wouldnt danneman play for the wsop seats? just bc annie told him not to. is he that dumb?

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why wouldnt danneman play for the wsop seats? just bc annie told him not to. is he that dumb?

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He was bombed and yeah he is that dumb.

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Treesong's post on Terrence's livejournal is gold.

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why wouldnt danneman play for the wsop seats? just bc annie told him not to. is he that dumb?

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You know Danneman came 2 in the WSOP ME... in other words Balla with $$$

but ya thats [censored] that OP got screwed over like this.

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I think the guy was cheated just as if they had cold decked him. He was robbed just the same as if they had stuck a pistol in his face. The whole thing, including the rush on the end, stinks to high heaven. Whoever was supposed to be running the charity tournament should be ashamed.

I played with Annie Duke long ago. We were the two big winners at the table. She kept trying to trash talk me saying, "I'll bet you aren't used to winning like that."

Her Las Vegas pals kept stopping by to talk, look at her hand, and hear her brags.

I must say she is now a great player. The way she ran over Phil Hellmuth was most impressive. Folks with an unethical edge to their personality can be counted on to do something more offensive in the future. Book it. Annie, get your gum.

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why wouldnt danneman play for the wsop seats? just bc annie told him not to. is he that dumb?

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He was bombed and yeah he is that dumb.

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well, there are 2 seats, so could they have agreed to split? that would be even worse imo.

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Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting?

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I wouldn't put too much blame on Shannon since she is relatively new to poker and may not have known the ethical implications of talking about colluding in order to ensure a better prize. Oh wait, isn't that common sense?

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Shannon's played enough to know better. She's no noob when it comes to poker tourneys.

As for the situation, complete suck-age. TD should be flogged. Correction: TD should be flogged using Annie Duke as said flogging weapon.

The only good part of the story was that it was for charity. Personally, I'd be po'd regardless but ain't much you can do in these type events.

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well, there are 2 seats, so could they have agreed to split? that would be even worse imo.

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This is key, and it's not clear from Terrence's blog. If 1st and 2nd prizes were both a WSOP seat, then it's pretty bad. If 1st prize was two WSOP seats and they chopped it, then it's flat out cheating and much, much worse.

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The saddest part is that Shannon always manages to get someone to sponsor her in the WSOP (unless that gravy train is coming to an end). You got screwed the TD should have done something, and a polite 1 player per hand to Annie either that or invite her to just sit down and play his hands for them.

Eh, Enjoy the TV.

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LBK,

I also don't doubt that she can afford to pay her own way for a WSOP seat, which makes this even more lame.

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IMHO Shannon needed Steve to fold out. From my read on this situation it appears that she wanted to be able to call herself the tourney winner. Unless either Danneman or Terrence gave their chips to the other then Shannon would be the unofficial winner (maybe the official winner). I believe this was her true motivation. It would certainly be my motivation if I didn't need the money.

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Just to be clear, I am not Terrence.

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I never said you were.

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If Annie Duke were in Terrence's shoes, we'd never hear the end of it. She's be screaming bloody murder, calling in the National Guard, taking this to the Supreme Court, etc.

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annie duke was playing 30-60 on ub fairly consistently for awhile. now when i see her playing its at 15-30 (despite fine 30s running) so the only conclusion is that she sucks at poker and cant beat ub 30.

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"Annie Duke and Shannon Elizabeth [censored]ed me in the Playboy Mansion"

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W,

"Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting? "

What's the Joe Sebok story?

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W,

"Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting? "

What's the Joe Sebok story?

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Joe may or may not have backed out of an FTP SNG challenge this weekend: angleshoot?

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W,

"Is Shannon Elizabeth still dating Joe Sebok? Did they plan this weekend as a [censored]-people-over-in-poker couples outting? "

What's the Joe Sebok story?

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...;gonew=1#UNREAD
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post10180166

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yea i pretty much hate annie duke, she is gross and they all blow at poker

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Anyone have Terrence's e-mail address? I want to post this on my site.

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I was standing right behind Terrence for the final table and this is basically how it went down.

Prizing was two ME seats for first, second a dream US Open golf trip and third a 55' TV.

For most of the final table, Annie was sitting beside SD. Steve was showing her (and all of us) his cards each hand. I didnt specifically hear AD tell Steve what to do, but I think Terrence heard her tell him to fold or whatever a couple times. I did hear her tell Steve that he probably didnt need to play a hand when three handed. Also, when Terrence moved in tshe said "put your chips up against his (instead of counting cause he was bombed) to see if you should call. She also told the dealer, on Steve's behalf apparently, "he's not calling" but just measuring stacks. Im jumping ahead, though.

When they got to 4 handed, the TD decided that they were going to play one more round and then declare placing by chip count. SD had a small chip lead and SE and TC were close with the fourth guy the short stack. Terrence folded and SE moved in on the button with A9. Fourth guy in SB called with AQ. Flop 99x. SE is now chip leader and tells SD several times not to play another hand. First out loud, then she mouthed the words while looking at him. This would indicate to me that she knew what she was doing was wrong. TC moves in the last two hands and obv SE and SD fold.

So SE ends up winning based on chip count and Steve gets second and TC third. How TC ends up with second prize (the golf trip) instead of third is beyond me. I guess the tournament directors decided that since SE and SD ended up splitting first then TC gets the golf trip. Now, to be clear, TC is most interested in winning a WSOP seat and has never watched golf in his life. He would actually rather have the TV for third. I know he is going to be talking to the organizers today to see if they will make it right, but it is a charity event after all and none of this should fall on them. They hired people VERY qualified people (WSOP staff) to run the event.

It's too bad it ended the way it did. It really was a fun night and alcohol was a big factor, although SE and AD seemed very sober to me. The table was surrounded with people in various states of inebreiation and was somewhat chaotic so getting a handle on the whole thing would have been difficult even for the most experienced tournament staff. That being said, SE and AD know about collusion and the one player to a hand rule so the commotion isnt an excuse. It's too bad that the TD decided to end the tourney, because with all due respect to SE and SD, TC is a much better player than either of them. With the format the way it was, it was basically a SNG. As you may know, TC edited the single table portion of Bill Chen and Jerrod's book.

Also, someone aaid that the TD wanted SE to win because it looks good to have her as champion. I don't think this was the case at all. He declared one more round when she wasnt the chip leader and I believe he just wanted to find a way to end it fast. There are better ways of course, but his intentions were good. Also, I think SE was more concerned with the ME seats then actually winning the event, but I could be wrong.

Tuco.

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if anyone tried to pull some crap like this on me, i would make a gigantic deal about it. i dont care if its a charity tournament or not, it ruins the integrity of the game. thats just awful. though ive never met him, im 100% on terrence chans side, and if he wanted to make a bigger deal about it id get his back. this is just really terrible imo. its also blatantly clear they wanted to have a poster girl shannon elizabeth win this thing, and did their best to set it up this way. ugh.

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SE is now chip leader and tells SD several times not to play another hand. First out loud, then she mouthed the words while looking at him.

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i would seriously lose it if i was at the table witnessing this, much less playing against someone doing that right in front of me. like, absolutely lose it.

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at least he can tell the grandkids he got [censored] by Shannon and Annie at the playboy mansion when he was a young man...