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Oden obviously should have gone, and I can understand Conley as well. Conley's stock isn't going to get much higher. However, right now there's NO way Butler gets drafted, and Cook would be a 2nd round pick at best, and be off to Europe within 2 years.

Therefore, I too have decided to enter the NBA draft and not hire an agent. After talking with my family, we have decided this is best for us.

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Oden obviously should have gone, and I can understand Conley as well. Conley's stock isn't going to get much higher. However, right now there's NO way Butler gets drafted, and Cook would be a 2nd round pick at best, and be off to Europe within 2 years.

Therefore, I too have decided to enter the NBA draft and not hire an agent. After talking with my family, we have decided this is best for us.

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Conley has a lot better chances of ending up in Europe than Cook. Cook could be a decent player in the end. Butler is crazy to leave. Some draft projections I was looking at had even Lewis as a late 2nd rounder. Who knows.

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Conley has a lot better chances of ending up in Europe than Cook. Cook could be a decent player in the end. Butler is crazy to leave. Some draft projections I was looking at had even Lewis as a late 2nd rounder. Who knows.

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What is your basis for this? Where do you project him going? If he's a lottery pick he won't be playing in Europe anytime soon.

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Conley will be the first PG taken in this year's draft. If he gets drafted by Atlanta at 11 or LA at 14, you can be pretty sure that he won't be going to Europe.

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IS there any way he can fall to the Lakers? Because that would be sweetness. As a PG that doesn't know how to shoot, Conley is exactly what we need.

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IS there any way he can fall to the Lakers? Because that would be sweetness. As a PG that doesn't know how to shoot, Conley is exactly what we need.

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No. I don't think theirs anyway he falls to 19. If he passes Atlanta (11), they are retarded.

The top 2 picks are pretty easy:

Oden, Durant.

Then you have Wright, Horford, Jianlian, Green, Brewer, Hibbert, Wright, Batum, Naoh, Conley, Hawes who should all go in the next group.

Milwaukee, Phx, Charlotte, Chicago, NO, Washington, NJ, GS are the only teams between the third pick and the 19th pick that don't need a PG of the future.

He could easily be taken by Minnesota, Sacremento, Atlanta, Philly, LAC (due to the injury), Detroit (Billups is the hottest PG FA), etc.

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IS there any way he can fall to the Lakers? Because that would be sweetness. As a PG that doesn't know how to shoot, Conley is exactly what we need.

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Anything to get Smush out of town.
Jack Nicholson's contribution to the Lakers > Smush Parker's contribution to the Lakers.

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No. I don't think theirs anyway he falls to 19. If he passes Atlanta (11), they are finally making a good move by choosing Acie Law IV instead since they've been the youngest team in the NBA for 3 straight years and don't need to add another teenager.

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Whew

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No. I don't think theirs anyway he falls to 19. If he passes Atlanta (11), they are finally making a good move by choosing Acie Law IV instead since they've been the youngest team in the NBA for 3 straight years and don't need to add another teenager.

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Acie Law is a combo guard. They need a pure point.

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This is Bilas view of Conley on ESPN. Seems crazy too me.

Conley is the real deal, and I believe he is in the same class as Deron Williams and Chris Paul in 2005. In fact, if you put Conley in that same draft, picking the best of the three would be a very difficult choice. If Conley improves his perimeter shot and makes it more reliable, he is as good a prospect as Paul, maybe better. Conley has great presence, maturity and decision-making skills. And, most important, he wins games. With Oden leaving and his own value being so high, Conley is in a good position in this year's draft, and should be the first guard taken. The toughest positions for NBA teams to fill are point guard and true center, and Ohio State offers up the best in both categories in this year's draft. Conley is making a good decision in coming out now

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Wow Bilas does not know any idea what he's talking about. Chris Paul is probably one of the top PGs behind Kidd and Nash (YES IN THAT ORDER). I'd also have Chauncey before I'd take Paul. But I'd take CP before Parker or Deron. Agree?

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Wow Bilas does not know any idea what he's talking about. Chris Paul is probably one of the top PGs behind Kidd and Nash (YES IN THAT ORDER) . I'd also have Chauncey before I'd take Paul. But I'd take CP before Parker or Deron. Agree?

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lol...id love to hear ur reasoning behind this

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This is Bilas view of Conley on ESPN. Seems crazy too me.

Conley is the real deal, and I believe he is in the same class as Deron Williams and Chris Paul in 2005. In fact, if you put Conley in that same draft, picking the best of the three would be a very difficult choice. If Conley improves his perimeter shot and makes it more reliable, he is as good a prospect as Paul, maybe better. Conley has great presence, maturity and decision-making skills. And, most important, he wins games. With Oden leaving and his own value being so high, Conley is in a good position in this year's draft, and should be the first guard taken. The toughest positions for NBA teams to fill are point guard and true center, and Ohio State offers up the best in both categories in this year's draft. Conley is making a good decision in coming out now

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Lol, as opposed to all the top prospects that are coming from losing NCAA programs?

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Most of you guys are underrating Conley. He doesn't have a jumper, but his decision-making is nearly flawless.

I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that Cook is leaving because he doesn't get along with Matta. If that's true, it seems like transferring would be the better option, because the potential is there for his draft stock to go way, way up with a few more years of experience.

-McGee

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Most of you guys are underrating Conley. He doesn't have a jumper, but his decision-making is nearly flawless.

I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that Cook is leaving because he doesn't get along with Matta. If that's true, it seems like transferring would be the better option, because the potential is there for his draft stock to go way, way up with a few more years of experience.

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I think Conley is good but I wouldn't compare him to Paul just yet. I prefer junior PGs rather than Freshman PGs. I know Conley will probally never have a higher draft spot then he does now but I'd rather have a more experienced PG from College. He's good, but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the NBA without a shot. I think he's a good passer but not a great passer. If your not a great passer in the NBA, you better have a shot.

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Most of you guys are underrating Conley. He doesn't have a jumper, but his decision-making is nearly flawless.

I heard somewhere (can't remember where) that Cook is leaving because he doesn't get along with Matta. If that's true, it seems like transferring would be the better option, because the potential is there for his draft stock to go way, way up with a few more years of experience.

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I think Conley is good but I wouldn't compare him to Paul just yet. I prefer junior PGs rather than Freshman PGs. I know Conley will probally never have a higher draft spot then he does now but I'd rather have a more experienced PG from College. He's good, but I'm not sure how well he'll do in the NBA without a shot. I think he's a good passer but not a great passer. If your not a great passer in the NBA, you better have a shot.

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I'll concede that Bilas went a bit overboard, but I can't say I agree that he is a good-but-not-great passer. He was fourth in the country in assists and had an assist to turnover ratio of 2.77 to 1. He's not a flashy passer, but as I said, his decision-making is outstanding and his execution is always there. There's more to being a great passer -- and great point guard -- then throwing behind-the-back and no-look passes all over the place.

-McGee

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Wow Bilas does not know any idea what he's talking about. Chris Paul is probably one of the top PGs behind Kidd and Nash (YES IN THAT ORDER) .

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lol...id love to hear ur reasoning behind this

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Kidd is a better rebounder (Nash has never avereged more than 4.2 per game, while Kidd's career avg is 6.7). And Kidd turns the ball over less (Nash has 3+ TOs per game each of the last 3 seasons).

Obviously, Nash is a MUCH better shooter. Since he joined the Suns, he's shot over 50% each year and over 43% from the arc. Kidd has been hovering around 40% each year, at about 35% from the arc.

Interestingly enough, Kidd attempts many more 3 pointers than Nash. This season, Nash was 156 for 343 (45%). Kidd was 124 for 361 (34%).

If you're a PER guy, Nash has been 22.04, 23.29, and 23.87 the last three seasons. Kidd has been 19.56, 19.20, and 19.47.

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And Kidd turns the ball over less (Nash has 3+ TOs per game each of the last 3 seasons)

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This is such a flawed statement it's not even funny. There's a reason nobody looks at per game averages very seriously anymore when evaluating players.