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MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 01:16 PM

NBA Mock Draft ver. 2
 
With the regular season over, I figured it was time for another one of these. Teams that are tied in the standings are marked as such, but for the purposes of the mock draft I broke the ties with an RNG. So just my opinions, feel free to rip them apart.

1. Memphis – Greg Oden C Ohio State

I still think Oden is the top guy on the draft board for almost any team in the lottery, especially after showing up big in the Championship game against supposed other top big men.

2. Boston – Kevin Durant SF/PF Texas

At #2 Boston gets to sit back and take whichever of Oden or Durant falls to them. Needs to add a little strength but I’m not telling you anything new when I tell you Durant has ridiculous potential.

3. Milwaukee – Jeff Green SF/PF Georgetown

Probably the toughest pick out of any team. The Bucks could go potential and take Brandan Wright, go for the experience of a guy like Al Horford, or go for the versatility, athleticism and upside that they need with a guy like Julian Wright or Jeff Green. Put to a decision I’m taking Green. Can play either SF or PF, athletic, ability to play inside and outside. Everything about him is what the Bucks really need on their team.

4. Phoenix(from Atlanta) – Al Horford PF Florida

The Suns get lucky getting a top pick from Atlanta, and they’re likely to use it to add a player that can help them win a championship next year. Horford adds depth to an already solid frontcourt where he can develop properly and should be able to solidly contribute for 15-20 mpg.

5. Seattle – Brandan Wright PF UNC

Wright is simply to good to pass up here. May not be an instant contributor but loads of potential. Should be able to get decent playing time in the frontcourt alongside Collison and Wilcox though.

6t. Portland – Julian Wright SF Kansas

Inside/Outside player with tons of athleticism and lots of upside. Aldridge is coming along nicely and should be able to start alongside Randolph in the frontcourt, while Wright should be a nice upgrade over starting either Outlaw or Oduka at SF.

6t. Minnesota – Yi Jianlian C/PF China

The 7 footer is versatile and while he may be a bit of a project, should progress nicely as a frontcourt mate for Garnett, that is if Garnett is somehow still a Timberwolve next year. If not, then Minnesota should have a couple of cellar dwelling years to develop Jianlian anyways.

8t. Sacramento – Roy Hibbert C Georgetown

Hibbert raised his draft stock a lot with his play in the tourney, especially by looking decent against Oden. Sacramento needs a big man, seems like a good fit.

8t. Chicago(from New York) – Corey Brewer SG/SF Florida

This team is becoming more loaded with young talent every year, extra picks from the Knicks sure doesn’t hurt. Brewer as a lock down defender with the ability to score will be a great addition for the Bulls.

8t. Charlotte – Nicolas Batum SG/SF France

I haven’t ever seen Batum play, but everything I’ve read on him sounds like he has tremendous upside. Will need to add some strength, but has been said to have the upside of a Joe Johnson or Tracy McGrady type player. Still only 18.

11t. Atlanta (from Indiana) – Mike Conley Jr. PG Ohio State

Do the Hawks finally make the right move and draft a PG in the 1st round? For the sake of all the Atlanta fans, especially mmbt0ne, I sure hope they do.

11t. Philadelphia – Joakim Noah PF Florida

Has anyone’s draft stock slipped more than Noah’s this year? Apparently people are starting to wise up to the fact that he doesn’t look like that good of a pro player. That said, he should be able to at least contribute, and Philly could use some frontcourt help.

13. New Orleans – Spencer Hawes PF/C Washington

The Hornets simply could just use to have another big body, but Hawes should still have some time to develop before being thrown in as a full time starter. Hawes is the best available big man here though and showed a lot of upside in his 1 year at Washington.

14. LA Clippers – Acie Law PG Texas A&M

Sam Cassell is getting old and ineffective, who knows if Livingston will ever play again, and I don’t think theres an NBA team out there that would be excited at the prospect of starting Jason Hart or Cuttino Mobley at PG, so the Clippers have a huge hole they need to address. Lucky for them Law is still around and should prove to be a decent PG that could develop into a very good one.

MoreWineII 04-19-2007 02:29 PM

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6t. Portland – Julian Wright SF Kansas

Inside/Outside player with tons of athleticism and lots of upside. Aldridge is coming along nicely and should be able to start alongside Randolph in the frontcourt, while Wright should be a nice upgrade over starting either Outlaw or Oduka at SF.

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The buzz is that Portland is looking to trade the pick if they don't get lucky and get a top two. Personally if they do get a pick in the mid-lottery area, I like Brewer best followed by Wright. Brewer brings a slahser/scorer and some solid perimeter defense, both of which Portland sorely needs. Outlaw's hard to figure out, he's quiet all year then goes ape-[censored] the last week of the season. Portland's summer could go one of ten million different ways.

capone0 04-19-2007 02:39 PM

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I think 3 for Green is too high.

Milwaukee does have solid bigs right now. They have a PG and a SG who should be in place for the long haul.

Charlie V, Bogut are both decent but nothing special. If they get the 2 I think Durant would be a very good fit. If someone drafted Durant #1, I think Oden could fit as well. I do think at the 3, a SF would probally be the best fit. I think I'd rather have Brewer than Jeff Green but that's just me. None of the other top flight players really fit their needs right now (B. Wright, Horford, etc).

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 02:56 PM

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I think 3 for Green is too high.

Milwaukee does have solid bigs right now. They have a PG and a SG who should be in place for the long haul.

Charlie V, Bogut are both decent but nothing special. If they get the 2 I think Durant would be a very good fit. If someone drafted Durant #1, I think Oden could fit as well. I do think at the 3, a SF would probally be the best fit. I think I'd rather have Brewer than Jeff Green but that's just me. None of the other top flight players really fit their needs right now (B. Wright, Horford, etc).

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Players that fit the Bucks need are basically Durant, Green, and Julian Wright. Wherever there pick ends up, if they take anyone outside those 3 I will be pissed, cuz at least one will be available at any possible draft slot they end up with. Exception being if they get the #2 pick and Durant goes #1, obviously they take Oden.

Shadowrun 04-19-2007 05:50 PM

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i think you have noah falling way too low

ChuckyB 04-19-2007 06:35 PM

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11t. Philadelphia – Joakim Noah PF Florida

Has anyone’s draft stock slipped more than Noah’s this year? Apparently people are starting to wise up to the fact that he doesn’t look like that good of a pro player. That said, he should be able to at least contribute, and Philly could use some frontcourt help.

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I like this spot for Noah. He seems like a more-athletic, less-creepy-looking Scot Pollard. Noah has virtually no NBA offensive game.

And anyone below 2 that passes on Horford has some serious explaining to do.

sam h 04-19-2007 06:36 PM

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Green at #3 seems very high, although the Bucks do need a SF. I would prefer Brewer there.

I kind of doubt J. Wright goes that high anymore. His production was really inconsistent all year and he didn't finish the season that strongly.

Horford looks like a good pick there.

I wonder whether Chicago would really grab a perimeter guy like Brewer with both Noah and Hawes around.

mmbt0ne 04-19-2007 06:54 PM

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God willing the Hawks will get the #2 pick, trade it away since they don't need Durant and draft Acie Law with Indiana's pick. Plus they should have another first round pick somewhere (come on Durant and 34 for KG and 6!!!) where they can add another piece.

EDIT: Hawks don't have 2nd round pick. I forgot. FU Anthony Johnson. Sorry KG [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 07:00 PM

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I'm always up for discussing these things, but isn't it kinda moot until we figure out the order?

tuq 04-19-2007 07:07 PM

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I have a question that's probably going to come off as more of a hijack but I don't think it's worthy of its own thread: why do people run mock drafts? You won't know the "score" for years, and with the NBA you have only limited idea where the picks are going to fall - e.g. Memphis only has a one in four chance of landing the top pick, so 75% of the time that is going to be wrong. I mean with football I don't get it either - teams are going to pick who they're going to pick, what's the point in guessing them right or wrong?

Obviously you guys do it because you enjoy it, but I can't imagine how. I see mock drafts from experts on sites all the time and never read them because they're never going to be 100% right and even if they are, what's the point? Congratulations, you correctly picked who the teams are going to pick, as a prize you get...?

Sorry to come off like a nitty a-hole, it's just this whole thing has baffled me for years and I'm genuinely curious as to why people do them.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 07:08 PM

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I'm always up for discussing these things, but isn't it kinda moot until we figure out the order?

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yes, that is why you will never see a single mock draft until after the nba lottery.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 07:20 PM

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also, i hate even the mention of horford going to the bucks. For one, I think he's a bit overrated, and he's not what the bucks need at all.

kidcolin 04-19-2007 07:41 PM

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i think you have noah falling way too low

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In reality, you're right. He'll get picked much higher.. but I think anywhere in the 10-12 range is where he should end up.

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 09:32 PM

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I'm always up for discussing these things, but isn't it kinda moot until we figure out the order?

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yes, that is why you will never see a single mock draft until after the nba lottery.

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Ah, the old "If someone else does it then it must be a good thing" line of thought...

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 09:43 PM

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3. Milwaukee – Jeff Green SF/PF Georgetown

Probably the toughest pick out of any team. The Bucks could go potential and take Brandan Wright, go for the experience of a guy like Al Horford, or go for the versatility, athleticism and upside that they need with a guy like Julian Wright or Jeff Green. Put to a decision I’m taking Green. Can play either SF or PF, athletic, ability to play inside and outside. Everything about him is what the Bucks really need on their team.


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Jeff Green has a much much greater shot of being picked outside the lottery than making the top 3. I don't know what you see in him that I don't, but his upside is pretty much a mid level star like Lamar Odom(without the outside shot). He'll probably stick around as a very good role player due to his passing and defense, but theres no way he goes top 3 imo.

Nearly every mock draft I've seen has Wright and Horford as the concensus 3 and 4. I'm not sure why exactly you don't like Wright for them. Hes going to take 2 or 3 years before hes a superstar, so playing him behind Charlie Villy isn't that big of a deal. And CV isn't really a star player where you should not draft another PF just because of him.

I do agree with your thought process that the Bucks have needs mostly at SF and then PG. Because of this I could see them trading down.

Even still, I'd much rather have C Brewer than J Green.

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 09:51 PM

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also, i hate even the mention of horford going to the bucks. For one, I think he's a bit overrated, and he's not what the bucks need at all.

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You have all 3 of the Florida guys going lower than most mocks. Do you think they were all overrated? Does that mean you think that Green, Humphries, and Richard were underrated on that team? Or do you think that its the system or the coach? IIRC they were the first starting 5 win back to back titles in something like 50 years, so they must have done something right.

I'm actually higher on Noah than most. I think its rather vogue to hate on him lately. Hes near 7 ft, has a 7+ft wingspan, and isn't as clumsy as many 7 footers...that alone will make him an above average defender on the next level, and imo defense is the rarest commodity in the league. I think he'll be a starter in the NBA for a long time.

My Noah draft prediction: After conducting personal workouts, NBA scouts will fall in love with Noah. They'll see a near 7 footer who is quick and can handle the ball like a small forward. He'll be the "higher than most expected" pick of the year as he goes around 7-8.

hoyasnaxa 04-19-2007 09:54 PM

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3. Milwaukee – Jeff Green SF/PF Georgetown

Probably the toughest pick out of any team. The Bucks could go potential and take Brandan Wright, go for the experience of a guy like Al Horford, or go for the versatility, athleticism and upside that they need with a guy like Julian Wright or Jeff Green. Put to a decision I’m taking Green. Can play either SF or PF, athletic, ability to play inside and outside. Everything about him is what the Bucks really need on their team.


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Jeff Green has a much much greater shot of being picked outside the lottery than making the top 3. I don't know what you see in him that I don't, but his upside is pretty much a mid level star like Lamar Odom(without the outside shot). He'll probably stick around as a very good role player due to his passing and defense, but theres no way he goes top 3 imo.

Nearly every mock draft I've seen has Wright and Horford as the concensus 3 and 4. I'm not sure why exactly you don't like Wright for them. Hes going to take 2 or 3 years before hes a superstar, so playing him behind Charlie Villy isn't that big of a deal. And CV isn't really a star player where you should not draft another PF just because of him.

I do agree with your thought process that the Bucks have needs mostly at SF and then PG. Because of this I could see them trading down.

Even still, I'd much rather have C Brewer than J Green.

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I am a friend of Green's and as big a fan of his game as their is, but this is correct. No way Green goes 3. Word on the street is that he is coming back, but he refuses to talk about it.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 10:37 PM

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also, i hate even the mention of horford going to the bucks. For one, I think he's a bit overrated, and he's not what the bucks need at all.

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You have all 3 of the Florida guys going lower than most mocks. Do you think they were all overrated? Does that mean you think that Green, Humphries, and Richard were underrated on that team? Or do you think that its the system or the coach? IIRC they were the first starting 5 win back to back titles in something like 50 years, so they must have done something right.


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nbadraft.net has all 3 florida guys going in about the same range I do. ESPNs mock is a joke if thats what you're going off of. And as a final note, if you dont realize that good college player doesnt equal good nba player then I dont even know why we're having this discussion.

Clarkmeister 04-19-2007 10:40 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 10:46 PM

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3. Milwaukee – Jeff Green SF/PF Georgetown

Probably the toughest pick out of any team. The Bucks could go potential and take Brandan Wright, go for the experience of a guy like Al Horford, or go for the versatility, athleticism and upside that they need with a guy like Julian Wright or Jeff Green. Put to a decision I’m taking Green. Can play either SF or PF, athletic, ability to play inside and outside. Everything about him is what the Bucks really need on their team.


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Jeff Green has a much much greater shot of being picked outside the lottery than making the top 3. I don't know what you see in him that I don't, but his upside is pretty much a mid level star like Lamar Odom(without the outside shot). He'll probably stick around as a very good role player due to his passing and defense, but theres no way he goes top 3 imo.

Nearly every mock draft I've seen has Wright and Horford as the concensus 3 and 4. I'm not sure why exactly you don't like Wright for them. Hes going to take 2 or 3 years before hes a superstar, so playing him behind Charlie Villy isn't that big of a deal. And CV isn't really a star player where you should not draft another PF just because of him.

I do agree with your thought process that the Bucks have needs mostly at SF and then PG. Because of this I could see them trading down.

Even still, I'd much rather have C Brewer than J Green.

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Wright is a horrible pick for them. This is a team that despite their poor showing due to injuries this season has thoughts of being a contender next season, especially if they are able to acquire Chauncey Billups in the offseason as has been often hinted at. Bogut and CV are the frontcourt of that team and they have other players that can contribute quality minutes upfront. Their biggest whole is easily that they have no one even remotely reliable at SF. If Simmons is healthy its a different story, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. Jeff Green at 3 is likely a little high, but if I'm the Bucks and I end up with the #3 pick and cant trade down, I'm taking Jeff Green.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 10:48 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins a national championship and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 10:50 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins back to back national championships in dominating fashion with the same starting 5 and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 10:54 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins back to back national championships in dominating fashion with the same starting 5 and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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the point is if i would've done this a week before the national championship game nobody would've thought anything of the placement of the Florida players. You're putting way too much weight into the fact that they won a national championship even though Oden made Noah his bitch and the biggest difference in the game was Humphrey.

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 10:54 PM

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also, i hate even the mention of horford going to the bucks. For one, I think he's a bit overrated, and he's not what the bucks need at all.

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You have all 3 of the Florida guys going lower than most mocks. Do you think they were all overrated? Does that mean you think that Green, Humphries, and Richard were underrated on that team? Or do you think that its the system or the coach? IIRC they were the first starting 5 win back to back titles in something like 50 years, so they must have done something right.


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nbadraft.net has all 3 florida guys going in about the same range I do. ESPNs mock is a joke if thats what you're going off of. And as a final note, if you dont realize that good college player doesnt equal good nba player then I dont even know why we're having this discussion.

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Of course, I realize that. Do you have to post something sarcastic or condescending in every one of your replies?

Anyway, there are two major mock draft sites: Nbadraft.net and draftexpress.com. Those are the only two online sites I use, although most of my opinions are in no way influenced by online sites. I certainly would never let espn influence me in any way.

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 10:57 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins back to back national championships in dominating fashion with the same starting 5 and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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the point is if i would've done this a week before the national championship game nobody would've thought anything of the placement of the Florida players. You're putting way too much weight into the fact that they won a national championship even though Oden made Noah his bitch and the biggest difference in the game was Humphrey.

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I'm curious as to how you know this about me. For the record, you're 100% wrong. I missed the national championship game(actually listened to it on radio) because I was travelling. That game has minimal impact upon my thoughts, and I would be disagreeing with you just the same had it never happened.

Noah is a power forward who, when matched up with Oden, was asked to guard him one-on-one. Do you really think any power forward should be able to control one of the most dominant college freshman centers of all time? That seems like an unfair criticism to me.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 11:03 PM

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well i wasnt referring to only you, so it was a generalization, and what else do you expect me to think when a reason being thrown about for why they should be drafted higher is their national championship?

And now you're contradicting yourself. You were just talking about how awesome defensively Noah is and what good size he has, well if thats true he should be able to stop a guy who's been ripped on all season for being underdeveloped offensively. Especially if he's supposedly good enough defensively that it'll be enough to make up for his lack of scoring ability. There's a reason most teams fans that end up in the range that noah could fall in are gonna be sitting hoping their teams don't draft him.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 11:05 PM

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p.s. because apparently there is some confusion, the mock draft is basically who i would take in each spot, not a prediction of the actual draft.

Clarkmeister 04-19-2007 11:07 PM

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wow wtf, a team wins a national championship and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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Please. Just as Noah has a game that obviously doesn't translate to the NBA, Brewer's game simply SCREAMS NBA. Has the size and defense to crack almost any starting lineup immediately and has plenty of offensive tools as well.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 11:10 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins a national championship and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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Please. Just as Noah has a game that obviously doesn't translate to the NBA, Brewer's game simply SCREAMS NBA. Has the size and defense to crack almost any starting lineup immediately and has plenty of offensive tools as well.

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I like Brewer, there's just other players I'd take over him at his position. obviously those being Jeff Green and Julian Wright. Really if the draft order stays as is, the only top 5 team I could see taking Brewer is the Suns.

Shadowrun 04-19-2007 11:14 PM

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p.s. because apparently there is some confusion, the mock draft is basically who i would take in each spot, not a prediction of the actual draft.

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unless your saying you know better than the teams regular gm's than it should be pretty similar

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 11:15 PM

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And now you're contradicting yourself. You were just talking about how awesome defensively Noah is and what good size he has, well if thats true he should be able to stop a guy who's been ripped on all season for being underdeveloped offensively. Especially if he's supposedly good enough defensively that it'll be enough to make up for his lack of scoring ability. There's a reason most teams fans that end up in the range that noah could fall in are gonna be sitting hoping their teams don't draft him.

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He has good size FOR A POWER FORWARD. Saying that hes a good defensive power forward in no way implies that he should be able to shut down one of the most physically imposing centers in college basketball all by himself. Yes, I realize that Oden doesn't have great post moves. That doesn't change the fact that hes a monster. Its simply a different position, and Noah will not be asked to guard the other team's center one-on-one at the next level, especially when center is the strength of the other team.

What do you dislike about Noah? I've found that nearly everyone who dislikes him does so because of personal feelings against him.

Eagles 04-19-2007 11:15 PM

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I can't imagine any team would take Horford over Brandan Wright. Well I can imagine it because NBA GM's are idiots but it would be a huge mistake IMO.

Clarkmeister 04-19-2007 11:18 PM

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Brewer goes top 5 for sure.

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wow wtf, a team wins a national championship and suddenly everybody thinks their team is full of top nba players.

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Please. Just as Noah has a game that obviously doesn't translate to the NBA, Brewer's game simply SCREAMS NBA. Has the size and defense to crack almost any starting lineup immediately and has plenty of offensive tools as well.

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I like Brewer, there's just other players I'd take over him at his position. obviously those being Jeff Green and Julian Wright. Really if the draft order stays as is, the only top 5 team I could see taking Brewer is the Suns.

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I just think Julian is inferior in every aspect of the game to Brewer. I'm shocked you would think that as I'm sure you've watched them both play. Frankly, Julian is at least a year, maybe two away from being ready for more than 15mpg in the NBA IMO.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 11:19 PM

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unless your saying you know better than the teams regular gm's than it should be pretty similar

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lots of nba GMs do a lot of stupid [censored](see Isiah Thomas). To try to predict the random insanity in some GMs mind that is going to determine their team's draft pick is a lot harder than just looking at a team's need and going with who I would pick in their spot.

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 11:20 PM

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I can't imagine any team would take Horford over Brandan Wright. Well I can imagine it because NBA GM's are idiots but it would be a huge mistake IMO.

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Only a team that is more concerned with winning next season than getting the player with the best upside would aka the suns.

Assani Fisher 04-19-2007 11:32 PM

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3. Milwaukee – Jeff Green SF/PF Georgetown

Probably the toughest pick out of any team. The Bucks could go potential and take Brandan Wright, go for the experience of a guy like Al Horford, or go for the versatility, athleticism and upside that they need with a guy like Julian Wright or Jeff Green. Put to a decision I’m taking Green. Can play either SF or PF, athletic, ability to play inside and outside. Everything about him is what the Bucks really need on their team.


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Jeff Green has a much much greater shot of being picked outside the lottery than making the top 3. I don't know what you see in him that I don't, but his upside is pretty much a mid level star like Lamar Odom(without the outside shot). He'll probably stick around as a very good role player due to his passing and defense, but theres no way he goes top 3 imo.

Nearly every mock draft I've seen has Wright and Horford as the concensus 3 and 4. I'm not sure why exactly you don't like Wright for them. Hes going to take 2 or 3 years before hes a superstar, so playing him behind Charlie Villy isn't that big of a deal. And CV isn't really a star player where you should not draft another PF just because of him.

I do agree with your thought process that the Bucks have needs mostly at SF and then PG. Because of this I could see them trading down.

Even still, I'd much rather have C Brewer than J Green.

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Wright is a horrible pick for them. This is a team that despite their poor showing due to injuries this season has thoughts of being a contender next season, especially if they are able to acquire Chauncey Billups in the offseason as has been often hinted at. Bogut and CV are the frontcourt of that team and they have other players that can contribute quality minutes upfront. Their biggest whole is easily that they have no one even remotely reliable at SF. If Simmons is healthy its a different story, but there's no reason to think that will be the case. Jeff Green at 3 is likely a little high, but if I'm the Bucks and I end up with the #3 pick and cant trade down, I'm taking Jeff Green.

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I agree with you mostly, but I think that you're underestimating the upside of Wright. Imo you don't pass that up for a career mid level guy like Green. Trading down makes a lot more sense than taking Green imo. And other than Maryland, I root for Georgetown, so I'm not biased.

MCS 04-19-2007 11:39 PM

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lots of nba GMs do a lot of stupid [censored](see Isiah Thomas)

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Hasn't he actually been pretty good in the draft itself though?

MEbenhoe 04-19-2007 11:41 PM

Re: NBA Mock Draft ver. 2
 
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lots of nba GMs do a lot of stupid [censored](see Isiah Thomas)

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Hasn't he actually been pretty good in the draft itself though?

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on the rare occassion that he actually has a draft pick, yes. that wasn't meant as a rip on isiah's draft history, just an example of GMs doing stupid [censored]. I actually should've said "see Billy Knight"

Hoya 04-19-2007 11:48 PM

Re: NBA Mock Draft ver. 2
 
I think Green projects better as a PF than a SF in the NBA. He doesn't yet have the handle or shot to be an effective 3.

kidcolin 04-20-2007 12:15 AM

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What do you dislike about Noah?

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Not a whole lot, except for his ugly, ugly shot. I think you're right that he'll be an NBA starter / big minute guy for a long time. I just don't think he's a top 7 or 8 pick.


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