NL200 - AK, 3bet pot
 

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Button ($65.06)
SB ($292.83)
BB ($350.09)
UTG ($369.65)
Hero ($222.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $18.

Flop: ($55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $33</font>, UTG calls $33.

Turn: ($121) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($121) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $77</font>

Villain is 25/5/1 (200 hands)

Re: NL200 - AK, 3bet pot
 

His hand looks like a draw to me on the turn, bet.

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if he bets turn he has to play for stacks I like the check behind. I think you played this hand perfect on every street

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Yea it looks like a spade draw. I like the turn check for pot control to.

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this guy has a spade draw in a 3-bet pot like never compared to the times he has 77-99 or a ten.

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if he bets turn he has to play for stacks I like the check behind. I think you played this hand perfect on every street

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Why so? why can't we b/f turn, and value bet the river again if checked to us.

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I think you played pretty well. I kinda like the turn check, though I suppose you could have bet a little something to get value if he had queens or jacks wich probably would have called a smallish bet and to at least charge something if he was on a flush draw. But if he raises you'd have a decision to make.

Am I wrong to not want to push too hard?

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i think a turn check is good but not for any reasons given so far

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this guy has a spade draw in a 3-bet pot like never compared to the times he has 77-99 or a ten.

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exactly, and that hand IS folding about 95 percent of the time after a pot bet on the turn, i would like betting the turn here with AQ much more than AK, i like the line, you may get someone to bluff the river or you could get 77-99 to pay you off now

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i think a turn check is good but not for any reasons given so far

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Agree turn check induces river bluffs from weaker hands

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this guy has a spade draw in a 3-bet pot like never compared to the times he has 77-99 or a ten.

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exactly, and that hand IS folding about 95 percent of the time after a pot bet on the turn, i would like betting the turn here with AQ much more than AK, i like the line, you may get someone to bluff the river or you could get 77-99 to pay you off now

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exactly

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this guy has a spade draw in a 3-bet pot like never compared to the times he has 77-99 or a ten.

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Seriously the spades comment was a little silly. If he has spades their either combo or overs and hes probably c/rai. Flat calling flop he has a weak 1pr type hand and doesnt want you to bluff him off when you have AK or has a set and wants you to commit yourself on turn.

Re: NL200 - AK, 3bet pot
 

Is 3betting a 25/5 UTG raiser standard for everyone here? I figure that we're always behind his range, and we will never take it down on the flop with a cbet once he calls (unless of course we hit an A or K and he has exactly JJ/QQ).

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this guy has a spade draw in a 3-bet pot like never compared to the times he has 77-99 or a ten.

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exactly, and that hand IS folding about 95 percent of the time after a pot bet on the turn, i would like betting the turn here with AQ much more than AK, i like the line, you may get someone to bluff the river or you could get 77-99 to pay you off now

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exactly

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Yep. And JJ-QQ might also fold for turn bet, but if I check the turn those will call the river for sure.

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if he bets turn he has to play for stacks I like the check behind. I think you played this hand perfect on every street

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Why the hell wouldn't you want to play for stacks here? Could you please elucidate me.

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if he bets turn he has to play for stacks I like the check behind. I think you played this hand perfect on every street

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Why the hell wouldn't you want to play for stacks here? Could you please elucidate me.

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if we get c/r on turn, we are probably behind a lot. regardless i would probably call and if he had a set, chalk it up to a cold deck.

there's no reason to play for stacks here though, because checking the turn maximizes our EV anyway, and if he leads river we are just calling.