Ho Chi Minh
 

Has anyone noticed many different players with "Ho Chi Minh" as their location in the Stars turbos? I have seen them in the 16/27 turbos. Any idea what this is about?

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lol the vietnamese are taking over Stars.

Some history:

The Ho Chi Minh "crew" played at Party for many, many months. There was something weird about them.. like:

1. They were online 24/7 (multiple players on one account?)

2. They had almost indetical stats (some thought they were bots. not sure if it ever was determined)

3. They NEVER lagged and that's suspicious in a country like Vietnam where power supply/internet connections are very unstable

4. They stopped playing at party after A) people started to mail PP and tell them to check out if they are bots B) PP made some changes to the monthly leader board

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tigerbeer77 and spainsoccer are the ones ive played with

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oh you mean ronaldo1231241251234 and zidane09182983918 and figo1092381029348?

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tigerbeer77 and spainsoccer are the ones ive played with

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ditto the pt stats I have for them shows standard nits.

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I've seen one on 225s but I can't remember his name. I'll try to find out.

Ryan

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The ones on Party where definitely bots. I'm glad they stopped playing there.

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lol the vietnamese are taking over Stars.

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Ho Chi Minh isnt a place it was a great communist leader of vietnam during the war; unless theres somewhere named after him (do people live on the Ho Chi Minh trail)?.~ maybe its just a running joke?

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yeah Ho Chi Minh City, wikipedia it.

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oops! serves me right for trying to get smart

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oh you mean ronaldo1231241251234 and zidane09182983918 and figo1092381029348?

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please keep posting there names. verbatim if you can. do u know the exact names here?

good job OP, ill look out for them.


im assuming the play a very set strat right? should be exploitable...

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oh you mean ronaldo1231241251234 and zidane09182983918 and figo1092381029348?

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please keep posting there names. verbatim if you can. do u know the exact names here?

good job OP, ill look out for them.


im assuming the play a very set strat right? should be exploitable...

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Ditto. Spainsoccer plays the 60's and I'll try to see if there is anything unusual (or usual) in his play.

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HI_KILLER123 plays the 27's

ill post more names shorty I run into tons of Ho Chi Minh players

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another on the $16s: radioshark

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catfishpoker at the 60's... chicagofish8 at the 16s... HOTMAIL1974 at the 60's

Have seen other 'Nam cities too - Long An being one.

CHeers, Mark

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how many tables are these guys playing? and how do u guy know its them, just by checking location or something else?

im gonna add them all to my notes.txt file

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Just a few more... will look them all up later

DR_H5n1 (Long An)
COMBLACK
SIROCCO777
KILLR1234

Does seem to be rather a lot!!!

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Just sent the following e-mail to Stars support... will let you all know the outcome!

Cheers, Mark
*****



Sir / Madame,

I am writing to express concern about SNG players from Vietnam - mainly Ho Chi Minh City.

It has been noticed that there are many Ids coming from this city at the 16 to 60 levels. There is nothing particularly strange about their playing styles, however I would appreciate your security department having a look into these players on the following basis:

1) There apprears to be a disproportionate number of Ids playing SNGs from one place.

2) Many of the IDs are similar in structure (capital letters and numbers - many including underscores).

3) It has been noticed that these IDs are at the tables 24 hours a day.

4) There is only 1 of them at a table at any one time though the number of them suggests that pure chance would have them sharing tables more often.

Below is a selection of the Ids in question.

radioshark
catfishpoker
chicagofish8
HOTMAIL1974
DR_H5n1 (Long An)
COMBLACK
SIROCCO777
KILLR1234
MONICA789
KILL3R1234
HIR3D_GuN
Lucky0012008 (tra vinh)
USD_N1
HUYLUCKY
Spainsoccer
tigerbeer77
eaglesky

Many Thanks,

Mark

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lol if they find out that they really are bots and ban them and seize funds then all of us who play them all the time will be in for a nice payday. ship the dough.

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Very interesting...
then let's assume they are bots how do we face them?
Surely reporting is a no brainer but for the time being how do we play vs bots?

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well done.
Please post PS reply.

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holl,

two of them were playing last night at once for a short period.

hotmail and someone else i forgot.

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Here are my stats on these guys that play the 60's over the two months:

catfishpoker, 64 pokertracker hands, 26 vpip, 20 pfr, 1000 sharkscope games played, $1 avg sharkscope profit

using the same format: (hands,vpip,pfr,ss hands, ss profit)

hotmail1974 2000,21,13,2200,3

dr_h5n1 - 700,17,12,800,3

comblack - 500,14,10,600,0

sirocco777 - 4000,23,15,1600,7

hir3d_gun - 1000,15,9,1800,0

usd_n1 - 800,15,10,500,3

spainsoccer - 1700,16,11,2000,3

eaglesky - 1200,15,10,700,4

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nutha one popped up in a 27, lonely999

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at the moment 2 guys of Vietnam are sitting at the same table at a 315 Turbo (47563359): sirocco777 and eaglesky.

EDIT: sirocco777 pushed with 99, eaglesky called with AA and won.

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Tigerbeer77 and rockford55 were just spotted at the 16s

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at the moment 2 guys of Vietnam are sitting at the same table at a 315 Turbo (47563359): sirocco777 and eaglesky.

EDIT: sirocco777 pushed with 99, eaglesky called with AA and won.

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oh now theyre chip dumping ZOOMMMGGGG

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holl,

also you might want to link stars to this thread and mention that people from the same place were found to be bots by party

otherwise good work

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holl,

also you might want to link stars to this thread and mention that people from the same place were found to be bots by party

otherwise good work

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I've never seen anybody ever post any proof they actually were bots.

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I saw Ronaldo123321 at one of my 60s last nite.

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you racist bastards.

"there are lots of people from a city in Vietnam OMG!!!" call stars, it must be a conspiracy.

hey dooshes, how about noting if you see any collusion. oh wait, they are not at the same table.

they must be bots!!!! this is retard mob mentality at its finest.

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you racist bastards.

"there are lots of people from a city in Vietnam OMG!!!" call stars, it must be a conspiracy.

hey dooshes, how about noting if you see any collusion. oh wait, they are not at the same table.

they must be bots!!!! this is retard mob mentality at its finest.

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i think you're a retarded racist for assuming all Vietnamese never sleep and have the same HUD stats

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so they all learned how to play the same game. you don't need a bot to play a TAG pushbot game.

did you not read where there was just 2 on a table and one busted the other? cover play!

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so they all learned how to play the same game. you don't need a bot to play a TAG pushbot game.

did you not read where there was just 2 on a table and one busted the other? cover play!

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so you do think that Vietnamese never sleep? RACIST

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you racist bastards.

"there are lots of people from a city in Vietnam OMG!!!" call stars, it must be a conspiracy.

hey dooshes, how about noting if you see any collusion. oh wait, they are not at the same table.

they must be bots!!!! this is retard mob mentality at its finest.

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hey idiot we arent talking about collusion. bots were found on party last year sometime. also, conspiracy theories are awesome

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pipedreamz,

I don't necessarily think anyone was being racist in this thread. There actually was an issue on Party back in the day in which a lot of people put bots in play that used this city as a location, so when a bunch of players from the same city that are playing 24/7 show up on Stars, I think it's a legit concern. I didn't see anyone say "I hate Vietnamese people" or anything like that. I think a similar thread would have gotten started if the city happened to be Mexico City or Chicago or whatever else.

Also, you misspelled douches.


All,

Keep it nice please; I'd like to leave this thread open to see Stars' response so we can put some closure on this issue but obviously I'll have to lock it if it turns into a train wreck.

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hollandicus is assuming they are on stars 24/7 from the post that said the party bots were on 24/7.

noone said the stars "minh" crew were on 24/7.

already assuming they are one and the same?

RACIST

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thanks wiggs,

i retract my racist charges [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

however, i do think that the jury is prematurely out on this. guess we'll wait and see.

i spelled dooshes on purpose b/c i wasn't sure if the right way would be censored.

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Ban please. We don't need this crap.