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I just want to know if the term "indian giver" is considered racist. When I was in grade school kids used this term all the time, I never once have heard anyone refer to it as racist.

According to urban dictionary the term means:
To the Native Americans, who had no concept of money or currency, gifts were a form of trade goods, of exchange. One didn't give a gift without expecting one of equivalent value in return. If one could not offer an equivalent return gift, the original gift would be refused or returned. To the Europeans, who with their monetary-based trade practices, this seemed low and insulting, gifts were not for trade but were to be freely given.

Anything racist in there? I dont know, point it out please.

Anyways, I dont think I deserved a 3 day ban for saying 'indian giver'. Seems like a case of over modding and being far too PC on some dumb internet entertainment forum (BBV).

-Matthewryan

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Anyways, I dont think I deserved a 3 day ban for saying 'indian giver'.

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Yeah, that's pretty [censored] stupid. Which mod was this?

Also, hilarious that you would both look this up in "urban dictionary" like it's some kind of new slang and then post it like it's some kind of authority.

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Anyways, I dont think I deserved a 3 day ban for saying 'indian giver'.

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Yeah, that's pretty [censored] stupid. Which mod was this?

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not sure - either Gild or Andathar I would assume

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gw is on vacation i believe...i think that thread definitely rubbed some people the wrong way though, not sure if that mertis a ban, but that's not my call...

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I just want to know if the term "indian giver" is considered racist. When I was in grade school kids used this term all the time, I never once have heard anyone refer to it as racist.

According to urban dictionary the term means:
To the Native Americans, who had no concept of money or currency, gifts were a form of trade goods, of exchange. One didn't give a gift without expecting one of equivalent value in return. If one could not offer an equivalent return gift, the original gift would be refused or returned. To the Europeans, who with their monetary-based trade practices, this seemed low and insulting, gifts were not for trade but were to be freely given.



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So, you cannot say someone 'welshed on a bet'?

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I'll wait for the BBV mods to get here to explain everything, but the OP isn't giving the entire reason for his ban.

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I always thought the term "indian giver" was a slam against the U.S. Gov't as being one that gives the indians something only to take it away later (i.e., land, treaty rights, etc.).

Wiki is split on how the term came about.

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So, you cannot say someone 'welshed on a bet'?

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I LOL'd.

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I'll wait for the BBV mods to get here to explain everything, but the OP isn't giving the entire reason for his ban.

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seriously, why did you even post that if you are not going to say why?

Im open to changing my stance on my ban if a mod could explain it better than "racist crap" - which was all I was told.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I aglee. This is definitely a slippery slope.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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BAN FOR RACISM PLZ.

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So, you cannot say someone 'welshed on a bet'?

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Or that a poker site "gypped" you.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I did this once and nobody got it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I did this once and nobody got it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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They were probably just disoriented by your creverness.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I did this once and nobody got it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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The first time through I only caught 1/4th of the hateful hateful words.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I aglee. This is definitely a slippery slope.

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BAN

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Someone got banned unfairly?
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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I aglee. This is definitely a slippery slope.

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BAN

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Over one dinky little misspelling? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I suggest you read Iron's where he points out there there is more to this ban than what the OP has led us to believe.

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lol good stuff.

Also, this was the picture I posted, could THIS be the cause of the ban?

http://thursdays.com/pic200/annetteindian.jpg

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I suggest you read Iron's where he points out there there is more to this ban than what the OP has led us to believe.

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Yeah, but he's too yellow to tell us what it is. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Sure hope nobody posts a link to this site:

http://www.engrish.com/

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I did this once and nobody got it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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not true

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I suggest you read Iron's where he points out there there is more to this ban than what the OP has led us to believe.

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Why? He gave no information. His post isn't worth anything.

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I thought this permaban was unfair and was gonna talk to gild about it, then looked at your user notes and realized it was 3 days. lol. also, I can't read.

for future reference, old time racist pics are explicitly a no-no.

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This kind of precipitous action is a chink in the armor of 2+2 mods. It needs to be nipped in the bud. We don't need this kind of gook fouling up a good forum. Calling the phrase "indian giver" racist is an interesting slant hardly worthy of a ban.

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I did this once and nobody got it. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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not true

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Anyway, banning over a phrase whose racist connotations are tenuous at best is a path we don't want to take, like a Chinese guy covered in grease.

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I thought this permaban was unfair and was gonna talk to gild about it, then looked at your user notes and realized it was 3 days. lol. also, I can't read.

for future reference, old time racist pics are explicitly a no-no.

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what's an old time racist pic? Like an image from The Birth of a Nation?

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http://www.favoritethingz.com/images...%20cartman.jpg

This is retarded.

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I thought this permaban was unfair and was gonna talk to gild about it, then looked at your user notes and realized it was 3 days. lol. also, I can't read.

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So, how long before BBVers get tired of the censorship and invade another forum so they can post without repercussion? Or will they end up back in OOT making polls with a "[censored] BBV" option?

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I just want to know if the term "indian giver" is considered racist. When I was in grade school kids used this term all the time, I never once have heard anyone refer to it as racist.


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