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Bond18 03-30-2007 04:00 AM

Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
Lucky's been on a tear lately, heres his 109 FO win on stars:

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA53486/...ars%20win/8550

luckychewy 03-30-2007 05:38 AM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
hand 101 i usually don't raise that but the guy was sitting out.

hand 138 and 162 seem like awful raises with the stacks behind me, whoops.

interested to see what people think of hand 233.

hand 349 is ridic weak/tight not sure what i was thinking.

Bond18 03-30-2007 06:35 AM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
Luckychewy 109 FO win:
Hand 1: Would you call 60 here as opposed to 80?

Hand 21: I might limp behind here. I don't see the harm with a player already all in.

Hand 62: Whats with the check behind on the river? This seems like a very clear value bet.

Hand 66: I think a bet on this flop is much better since a checkraise will look very strong and give him a chance to fold out, meanwhile if you lead out he might put you on overs and raise, which will have to be most if not all his stack which you can easily call.

Hand 111: with your stack i think i steal raise here.

Hand 119: Why no reraise here pre? His 4X raise normally means a mid pair, though i don't your call here. I just don't see AA/KK ever 4xing here, so i think you can often feel good about reraising your hand here.

Hand 126: I think if your calling here, which is debatable, this is a pretty bad flop to lead at. It hits a lot of his raising range plus theres draws out there that he'll raise in position.

Hand 127: No squeeze here? Why the just call?

Hand 131: I think your position is a bit to early for this raise.

Hand 162: With those restealing stacks on your left unless this is right near the bubble i insta fold this button.

Hand 183: Unless you know this players tight i think i just jam here pre.

Hand 190: In shorter stack tournaments (though your deep many players on the table are shorter) i don't bother raising suited gappers unless near the bubble or in LP vs tight blinds.

Hand 192: I think on this board, with lots of rivers as scare cards, i'm raising this turn.

Hand 216: I don't see any reason not to cont bet this flop. A lot of the time with hands he defends from BB he might assume you've whiffed the flop and CR all in expecting large FE, though i'll be interested to see what the forum says on this, since i expect him to shove his better hands pre maybe hes mostly two broadway type hands we should give a free card to?

Hand 233: Whats your calling range on his flop shove?

Hand 238: Why the flat call as opposed to a reraise here?

Hand 247: I'm kind of undecided on the turn raise. You'll never push out a mid pair, but then why wouldn't he bet a small-medium pair on the flop? You won't really gain value from AQ/AJ but you will prevent a chop pot or him perhaps hitting/bluffing you out on the river? Idk, undecided.

Hand 272: Are you nearing FT bubble here? If not i fold here. Hell even at or around FT bubble unless i knew players on my left were very weak i don't bother with a hand this bad.

Hand 275: I take it your intending to CR all in here?

Hand 281: What in the [censored] was villain doing here? Hopefully you noted this because play that tight/weak is extremely exploitable.

Hand 287: What exactly is your plan here, raise/fold? I think if your raising here its a jam, to prevent him from ever thinking he can resteal on you.

Hand 293: UTG 8 handed i often fold AT, but if you feel the players at your table are looking to move up in the money moreso than get involved, and with a BB whos shove you'll have an easy time calling, this is likely close but fine.

Hand 313: I'm surprised you didn't lead this turn, your planning to fold to a turn bet correct? On the river i think this actually might not be a great spot to bluff with the board two pairing, you might get looked up by an A pretty often.

Hand 328: I think this is a call. Hes under 8 BB's utg 4 handed, his shoving range is huge.

hand 330: i probably raise this here, though i'm not sure this is correct, both short stacks might be just deep enough that its not profitable and they'll be shoving on us a lot.

Hand 333: I don't see any reason to lead this turn. Although we expect him to check behind on the turn, give him the opportunity to bluff. Your bet will fold out a lot of hands.

Hand 336: Bet the flop.

Hand 339: I lead that flop.

hand 344: Why check behind this turn? Do you feel he'll bluff the river for you? I can definatley see 2nd or 3rd pair paying off here, so i bet it.

General note on HU, you should basically never open fold your button, maybe the bottom 10%, if that. You've folded a few hands that are very much playable.

Hand 368: I think i'd rather raise this button than limp it. Your pre flop raising range seems kinda thin for HU.

Hand 369: I probably call his river bet there.

Thats it for me, gg.

luckychewy 03-30-2007 07:30 AM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
1 - yes.

21 - yea i considered it. i probably should have. in the future i will.

61 - not sure really. iirc my thoughts at the time were that he bets an ace on the flop almost always(probably not true) and he has a bigger 7 some % of the time. my read on him was that he was loose passive and when he put chips in the pot he usually had a big hand. obv off this time, i don't think it's an awful check behind but certainly missed some value vs. his entire range.

66 - with ~2x pot i feel like i'm never bluffing here. i know it shouldn't matter because he doesn't know my tendencies but i wanted to give him a chance to take a stab at it with whatever he has. my hand looks very weak imo when i raise oop and check flop. of course it can backfire if he checks behind and outdraws me on the turn but if i had to do it again i would play it the same way. plus, with ~2400 behind and ~1k in pot i don't think he's bet/folding all that often...though i do think he bet's a bluff more often than he bluff raises all-in.

111 - yes i definitely should have.

119 - i didn't feel comfortable 4-bet/folding vs. his ep raise with these stacks and i thought he would fold a lot of hands i want him in the pot with that he might spew some chips to me post flop with like smaller pairs or suited connectors or broadway etc. etc. if he had 3x'd it i would've still flat called with these stacks. i dunno if this is a leak or not but i only like to 3-bet jj here if i feel comfortable getting all-in or i feel comfortable folding to a 4-bet. here i felt comfortable doing neither.

126 - yea this was a very marginal hand. i was thinking i can rep the board better than him, but it does nail a good % of his raising range. probably a leaky hand if it's done 100% of the time.

127 - same reasoning as the jj hand. i feel like this is almost certainly a leak. interested to see what others have to say about these hands.

131 - agreed.

162 - yea i mentioned above i thought this was awful. no idea what i was thinking at the time.

183 - yes looking back i def should've jammed pf since i had no specific read of him being super tight or anything. having just called how do u like post flop?

190 - yea that was awfully loose. sometimes, not so much lately, but i used to get so overwhelmed when i had an above average stack and go on raising rampages.

192 - hmmm i really liked how i played this hand at the time because i thought my line looked not legit and i would get looked up much lighter than raising turn. i think raising the turn blows him off Ax where as i think he might c/c or lead/something it on the river. looking back, with 2 hearts and 12 potential scare straight cards i think i probably should raise and if he folds an ace he folds an ace.

216 - basically yes. i thought his pf calling range was so skewed towards either monsters(aa/kk/maybe qq but i think he would just jam that) and broadway/suited connector type stuff. since i eliminate most all aces from his range i was just looking for him to pair up on the turn and stack off or take 1 bluff stab at it.

233 - i guess jj+ and sets, nfd's. i think it's a very close hand because he had been tight and shoved relatively quickly in real time. i almost wanted to fold pf...but closing the action with 99 seemed to weak. with jj i think 99/tt are enough of his range i can profitably call. i'm still not so sure as to what the optimal play is here because i don't know how his flop shove range deviates from his pf raising range. i assume they are fairly similar, but the timing tell was a pretty big giveaway to me at the time.

238 - iirc he was constantly min-raising but this time he 3x'd it. i thought this was a giveaway that he had a much stronger hand, he had also been relatively tight in general. though i think i should peel flop 1 time and shutdown if he fires turn, checking behind if he checks and just trying to get to showdown because he has enough air c-bets in his range(aq/aj/maybe even 88). i also think for the hands i do beat in his range he folds to my 3-bet, except probably not 99, of course picking up the pot right there is a good result at the time i felt he was fairly strong.

247 - i was pretty sure he had air. if it were hu i would just call, but i wanted to make sure the other guy didn't peel with A4s or some other random pair. i think it's a very marginal high variance play but certainly has it's merits. almost like a bluff with the almost always best hand.

272 - btn and sb were playing tight, but against snowmans bb i think it's very marginal. i probably should fold even with 40bb.

275 - yea i whiffed the c/r ai. i sometimes b3b or b/c.

281 - yes i noted that, and i late repopped him with J9o when he opened co. i figured he was calling/4-betting super tight after seeing him not bet flop/raise turn/bet river with top 2 that hand.

293 - yea the bb stack size is likely what lead me to raise here. in general i think i need to tighten up in most spots.

313 - yea i was going to fold to a turn bet. i didn't think this guy would double barrel air so i figured i find out on the turn if he's got me beat or not, and on the river i lead to bluff out q/k/a high. i don't think ace high can call, realistically from his POV, what can he put me on and profitably call? my most likely hand has to be a small pocket pair or less likely 9x trying to get ace high to call. ime everyone knows this and it's conventional wisdom to fold with ace high because i know he knows.

328 - yea i realized this seemed like a tight fold. do u prefer calling or 3-betting to knock out bb? i'm always torn between calling and letting another guy in to bust a player and move up in money, or 3-betting and getting it hu where i likely have an equity edge and can bust him myself.

330 - yes i thought i was getting shoved on a lot and was going to have to call the bb's shove.

333 - it's close imo, i thought he would check behind a low club where as i could get 2 bets out of him if he did have a low club or any club for that matter. and i wasn't sure he would be double barreling all that often. kind of an all or nothing type of deal, checking certainly has merit though.

336 - yea, i mix it up there.

339 - definitely seems like a good spot to do so.

344 - yea a turn bet definitely looks better than a check re-looking the hand. ez fold to a c/r too.

368 - yea i pretty much never raised the button once. i felt i had a huge post flop edge against this guy and tried to exploit it.

369 - i think he has a flush very very often when he bet, check, bets. he knows i am capable of c/r'ing riv because i checked down the 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hand earlier and whiffed the c/r on the [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] river, so i feel like he would be more hesitant to bluff here.

thx so much for doing this.

luckychewy 03-30-2007 04:22 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
shameless bump.

Bond18 03-30-2007 05:04 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
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harass people over AIM to review it, it works for me.

Sherman 03-30-2007 05:36 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
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I'm reviewing now. I'll probably learn more from you than I can contribute back...but oh well.

glass_onion 03-30-2007 05:38 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
I don't much like Pre much with 183, but I think post flop is pretty good. Not going to get any Ax hand you are beating to call. PP's aren't going to bet minimum into two broadway cards, mostly. Hate to single out AQ, but that's a pretty consistant line.

Sherman 03-30-2007 06:21 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
Comments on the first 200 hands. I tried not to comment on anything that Bond already commented on.

Hand 1 - I just can't fold AQ to single raiser in position.

Hand 5 - Limp w/76s UTG?

Hand 20 - Standard to only call w/AK PF? Standard to only call flop bet w/two flush connectors on the board?

Hand 28 - If the same re-raise come from the BB, would you call being in position?

Hand 59 - Standard call in position w/AJs here?

Hand 61 - Checking the river...? Do you not think any worse hands will call you here?

Hand 67 - I hate checking that flop b/c I hate it when villain checks behind. I would normally check w/AA or KK there though.

Hand 68 - What makes you decide not to c-bet this one?

Hand 82 - I liked the flop lead check when you make your hand on the turn.

Hand 119 - I would have re-raised too. But I read response.

Hand 126 - Icky is the only word that comes to mind.

Hand 143 - I find myself shoving in these spots b/c I don't know what to do w/AK if he only calls and leaves me OOP.

Hand 164 - I always find myself calling that re-raise for some reason. I feel like with pot odds and position I can still play the hand. Is this a leak of mine?

luckychewy 03-30-2007 06:38 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
1 - yea 4x utg without any reads i tend to give respect here.

5 - sure, i sometimes raise sometimes fold sometimes limp. this early i think limping is fine.

20 - i actually think a flop shove is better in retrospect because that's what i would be doing with a big draw. i think calling is fine tho, and i think pf is very standard.

28 - no, without reads on someones 3-betting range, if i get more than min-raised i'm pretty much folding to anyone even with position and these stacks.

59 - i think 3-betting and calling a shove is okay too. if he were shorter i'd like it more though.

61 - yea re-looking this it was certainly a missed value bet.

67 - i dunno i really like the way i played this hand, i think he folds to my lead too often and i'd rather be the one jamming on him creating fold equity rather than him jamming on me where he potentially has fe.

68 - even tho my image was good and i had shown down good hands, vs. a bb defend i think this range just hits him too often. i also think they are eventually going to get suspicious of me since i won the last 2 pots.

82 - yea i mix it up here, seemed like it was a good spot to check it though.

119 - yea, possibly a preference thing.

126 - i don't think this is that terrible, but yea probably fairly -cEV over the long run.

143 - i 3-bet big enough that a flop shove would be almost exactly ~PSB. i don't think shoving is more profitable than just 3-betting for effectively ~7.1k against his t600 raise.

164 - with 11bb effectively, yes i'd say so. ime with donks this is always a super strong hand and i don't have the odds to draw against his range. i also have to get ai every time i flop a pair or a decent draw because i'll be getting ~2:1 to call his shove.

Sherman 03-30-2007 08:41 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
Okay, last 174 hands. I again tried to avoid commenting too much on the hands that Bond had already commented on.

Hand 203 - Surprised you raised w/Q9 here after the last two hands (got your c-bet check/raised in 1 and everyone folded to your PFR in the other). Are we on the bubble here?

Hand 216 - Similar to the QQ hand before only this time I like it soo much better w/KK because I feel like villain has fewer outs.

Hand 247 - I assume the flop check in the mutli-way pot is a dead give away that he doesn't have PP here?

Hand 253 - I was somewhat surprised at the call PF. The call on the flop seemed standard. I was really surprised at the call on the turn. Thoughts?

Hand 273 - Earlier you CC a PFR w/ATs. Now we are folding. This has to be read based? Or is it just based on the Villain's position?

Hand 285 - I really like this one. I need to add plays like this to my game more. So much value to be gained here especially late.

Hand 321 - Are we calling a shove from the BB here? We'd be getting nearly 2:1.

Hand 328 - I thought this was a call too.

Hand 333 - I would have checked this turn also.

Hand 336 - I also would have bet flop.

I would be raising a lot more of the heads-up hands PF.

Hand 349 - I don't know. Mabye I just fall in love with aces heads-up.

Hand 357 - Value bet river? I probably would have bet on the turn as well, but I think the check is just as good there.

Hand 369 - I know Bond said so too, but I probably would have called on this river as well.


Well it looked like this guy had no idea how to play heads-up. Rasing to 22K with the blinds at 3K/6K makes almost no sense. He wasn't even making raises that big at the full table. Nice job sir.

luckychewy 03-31-2007 03:09 AM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
203 - iirc we were near a mini bubble and everyone was just playing super weak. definitely marginal though.

216 - yea the more i look at this and think about it the more i like it.

247 - not neccesarily, but this guy was fairly straightforward, though i guess it's possible he has 66/77 or something small he was just playing weak on the flop.

253 - pf i think i need to call, he half potted it here and i could see him having a worse ten or aq/aj. on the turn for half pot with the nfd i just picked up i have to call and riv is standard.

273 - well yea in the other hand he min-raised and here he made it 3x with like 14bb fairly early. i felt there was no reason to get involved here. fwiw i had AJo not ATs here.

285 - yea i'm a c/r monkey. O_o

321 - the short stacks in this tournament were playing so tight i don't think i would've called. can't really remember my exact read on him was but i think i would've folded. just raising cause they were still playing weak.

328 - yes definitely a mistake on my part.

333 - certainly viable, i gave my reasons for a lead and i don't think it's terrible.

336 - yea i sometimes bet flop for sure.

349 - def a very weak fold by me. not sure what i was thinking. i mentioned this earlier.

357 - after he min-bets flop and checks turn i'm fairly sure he has nothing. just trying to get him to bluff at it or make a thinnish v-bet. i was obv going to c/r him on riv.

369 - ehh i really don't think i am good here 1 in 3 times or whatever it was. the bet, check, bet line is sometimes air from a donk for sure...but he bet half pot, how credible is a bluff here? i don't think he's re-leveling me either, he was playing fairly bad imo.

thx, and ty for responding. yea he was kinda aggro hu, i was just trying to play flops with like 30bb behind i def think my advantage is post flop vs. him. i believe i raised pf one time when he limped and i raised KTs.

helter skelter 12-01-2007 08:02 PM

Re: Official review thread, luckychewy 109 stars win
 
Some questions, comments in my quest to learn from the winners.



hand 49 - you limpfold A8 in SB. Bond limp re-raises. I would probably raise.


hand 82 - do u always rse utg w KQs?


hand 183 - one alternative would be to donkbet the flop instead of check calling, since your unlikely to improve on the turn. If he raises, you can fold to his Q. This raises an interesting point. Is check-calling perceived as a sign of weakness or a sign of strength? Do we assume good players perceive it one way and bad players perceive it another way? Does it depend on the buy-in?


hand 211 - Why do you check the turn with your set?


hand 216 - In light of hand 211, he may be more afraid of your check than your bet. I would be afraid of giving Ax a free card or if he was cking a medium pair, hoping to ckrse you, a scare card on the turn could prevent him from putting the money in, but you seem to have his range narrowed down to broadway, so I guess checking the flop is OK. That is one of the areas of my game I need to improve on; narrowing down ranges of villains possible hands based on current and previous actions.


hand 233 - I guess I would be moving in on the flop here, since it looks like a good flop for me and I wouldn't want a nasty card coming off on the turn. Theres 12K already in the pot. The raiser has 14K remaining and the coldcaller has 21K. It seems to me that if you don't like this flop, you called his pf raise only to flop a set and I don't think the stacks are deep enough for that.


These all apply to the same villain, seated to your immediate right.

Bond:

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Hand 238: Why the flat call as opposed to a reraise here?


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lucky:

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238 - iirc he was constantly min-raising but this time he 3x'd it. i thought this was a giveaway that he had a much stronger hand, he had also been relatively tight in general. though i think i should peel flop 1 time and shutdown if he fires turn, checking behind if he checks and just trying to get to showdown because he has enough air c-bets in his range(aq/aj/maybe even 88). i also think for the hands i do beat in his range he folds to my 3-bet, except probably not 99, of course picking up the pot right there is a good result at the time i felt he was fairly strong.


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Sherman:

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Hand 253 - I was somewhat surprised at the call PF. The call on the flop seemed standard. I was really surprised at the call on the turn. Thoughts?

Hand 273 - Earlier you CC a PFR w/ATs. Now we are folding. This has to be read based? Or is it just based on the Villain's position?

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Lucky:

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253 - pf i think i need to call, he half potted it here and i could see him having a worse ten or aq/aj. on the turn for half pot with the nfd i just picked up i have to call and riv is standard.

273 - well yea in the other hand he min-raised and here he made it 3x with like 14bb fairly early. i felt there was no reason to get involved here. fwiw i had AJo not ATs here.



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In 273, his position is exactly the same as in 253 (as is yours). His stack is much smaller relatively, though, and yours is bigger. Will his range not broaden now that he is relatively short stacked? Would he continue mini-raising with a short stack? Can you really decipher his ranges based on the absolute size of his raise (2x raise = OK hand, 3x raise = strong hand).

Admittedly, I didn't watch every hand, rather just the ones you were involved in and a few select others, so I haven't even seen a 3x hand of his shown down.

Is this raise-size tell a generalization of typical villain behavior or just this particular villain?

This brings up a question. Is mini-raising ever a good idea? I rarely do it, but I frequently see others do it, especially at later stages.



Hand 278 - Is re-raising allin here a good idea?


Hand 346 - limp folding A4 headsup? I guess I would just raise preflop, but I see you say you wanted to play post-flop against him.

Hand 350 - kind of a risky VB on river. I guess you figured he would call with any pair?

Hand 357 - why didn't you bet or ckrse flop? Did you feel this guy would never bluff turn or river once you called flop?

Hand 368 - surprised after limp folding with A4 that you limp call with this. I think I would have bet the flop with the oesd after he ckecks. If not on the flop, I would on the turn after he cks again.

Hand 374 - excellent limp. It appears he likes raising your limps. Also, he's probably steaming from the last hand.


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