(39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

this hand happened on the bubble:

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t4420)
SB (t3575)
BB (t1005)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Hero raises to t450</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t1005 (All-in)</font>, Hero calls t555

Flop: (t2235) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Turn: (t2235) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)


River: (t2235) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hugh57: shows [5c 6s] (a straight, Three to Seven)
Hypotron: shows [Qh Qc] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
Hugh57 collected 2085 from pot


since then he has probably put in a raise of 800-1200 for 4 out of the last 6 or 7 hands. thoughts on this?


PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Button (t2285)
Hero (t2690)
BB (t4025)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">Button raises to t800</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t2690 (All-in)</font>

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

Exactly how I play it, with or without this read and the assumption that this is the same guy raising hand 2.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

ZOMG BBV [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] j/k

hmm... I'm guessing he's calling wide, but that might be wrong. The first hand he raised you and might not think he has 0 FE there.

AJo doesn't play that well but you do have him covered and his range is huge.

I think it's fine.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

i mean, what are the chances hes gonna bad beat you twice in a row?

shove is good.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

I think I shove here regardless, but is this second hand still the bubble? I got thrown off when both were 3 handed histories but the first was labeled as the bubble.

Edit: Shorthanded SNG or just top 2 paid? If so shooooove.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

well the main reason im posting this is because i dont know what hands hes folding here...his big open raises have been folded to and the only other hand to go on is the one in the OP....FE or not im crippled and probably the bubble boy if im wrong so i didnt really have a great feel in this spot for AJ being an easy/push fold. Also, if AJo is super standard, how much worse are you shoving?

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

being that this is almost word for word what i said to AMT when he called me in his room to ask me about this hand, im going to go ahead and use the quote feature at this time (although i did change your post some lol)

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hmm... I'm guessing he's calling wide, and there is a good chance you have very little if any FE

AJo doesn't play that well but you do have him covered and his range is huge.

I think it's fine.

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Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

thank you manchild/stupid head.


for those of you with sngwiz, anyone care to run some ranges for me? I only have SNGpt...

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

This is a 6max?

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This is a 6max?

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sorry im used to identifying games by the buy in. yes, it is 6 max and hence the bubble.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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This is a 6max?

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sorry im used to identifying games by the buy in. yes, it is 6 max.

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What's the payout for 6max?

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thank you manchild/stupid head.


for those of you with sngwiz, anyone care to run some ranges for me? I only have SNGpt...

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FYI - you can make a 6 max payout structure for SNGPT.

Read the file... StructureFiles.txt for instructions.

Should be someplace like...

\Program Files\Advantage Analysis\SnG Power Tools\StructureFiles.txt

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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This is a 6max?

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sorry im used to identifying games by the buy in. yes, it is 6 max.

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What's the payout for 6max?

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65/35

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

It's a +$EV shove if he's raising like 20% (Pokerstove range) and never folding.

20%: 66+,A4s+,A9o+,K8s+,KTo+,Q9s+,QTo+,J9s+,JTo,T9s.

So, it sounds like this villain is not only wider than 20% but you may have some FE. So, I like a shove.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

I just made a 6 max pokerstars file for SNGPT.

If anyone wants to know how to do this, or has trouble doing it PM me I'll walk you thru it.

If you treat it as a call of a push (i.e. assume you have 0 FE).

If he's raising at least 18% and sounds like he is, AJo is +EV.

Devin beat me to it - 18% is only 0.3%, either way looks like a good shove.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

I haven't played any 6 max SnGs at all, but given his looseness, shouldn't he be folding a decent amount of times here? Not like 1/4 or anything, but still far from 0 FE?

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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I haven't played any 6 max SnGs at all, but given his looseness, shouldn't he be folding a decent amount of times here? Not like 1/4 or anything, but still far from 0 FE?

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Well, in the first hand he did shove over with like 0 FE with 56o. So, this doesn't seem like the type to fold once he puts in a raise.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

easy push given your reads.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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I haven't played any 6 max SnGs at all, but given his looseness, shouldn't he be folding a decent amount of times here? Not like 1/4 or anything, but still far from 0 FE?

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Well, in the first hand he did shove over with like 0 FE with 56o. So, this doesn't seem like the type to fold once he puts in a raise.

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true true, I mean...some guys really are that bad. But yeah, we prolly shouldn't count on any FE.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

well since im a nit for posting this, what kind of shoving range does sngwiz produce on this/whats the worst we can shove with no FE?

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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Insta-Presto-push given your reads.

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FYP, n00b.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

Alex I am disappointed you think you have the same sort of legendary status as me that allows you to put ZOMG in the title of a hand post.

BTW I shove

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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Alex I am disappointed you think you have the same sort of legendary status as me that allows you to put ZOMG in the title of a hand post.

BTW I shove

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what makes you think i did it cause of you....ITS NOT ALWAYS ABOUT YOU!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

lol what's the question ?

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lol what's the question ?

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the question is "whats the worst hand youd shove in this spot?" I dont know how to better explain it....

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

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lol what's the question ?

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the question is "whats the worst hand youd shove in this spot?" I dont know how to better explain it....

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don't post your hand in the OP then [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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lol what's the question ?

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the question is "whats the worst hand youd shove in this spot?" I dont know how to better explain it....

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I'm thinking 88+, ATs+. I feel like there's a fairly significant difference between AJo and ATs. I don't know if I'd shove ATs.

Re: (39): AMT posts a hand ZOMG
 

AMT- consider yourself +1 bitch-slap when you get to vegas for not instapushing here and being happy about it.