Future of the MMB forum discussion
 

There are going to be some upcoming changes in this forum.

1) Linking sites you're affiliated with is not allowed. This rule was always in place but was not enforced in the past. This is the request of 2+2 admins and is non-negotiable. If you want to make a post but feel like this rule hinders you please PM me and I will help you find a solution that benefits you, the forum readers and 2+2.

2) When the forum software is upgraded in April we are planning to merge this forum with the Finance and Investing forum. The reason for this is that the quality and quantity of content in this forum is not as we think it can be.

Before you freak out there are two things I'd like to make clear. First, this plan is not set in stone. If things change over the next couple weeks and this forum turns around significantly Mat has told me they can easily leave it as is. Second, if we do go through with the merger I plan for the forum to be re-split in the future. If I didn't think this forum could survive on its own I would not have wasted my time being a mod here.

3) I want to see the direction of this forum shift to more interesting and valuable topics. This is the primary reason I wanted to moderate the forum. I'm interested, both personally and professionally, in the topics at hand but I don't think they're getting the sort of discussion they ought to. Right now there is a ton of discussion about tweaking adsense sites, flipping trinkets on ebay and things like that. I don't mean to imply that these topics aren't worthy of any discussion, but I think the people here are capable of a lot more. To make a lame poker analogy, I feel like this forum is devoting way too much time talking about what hands to limp on the button preflop and not spending nearly enough time talking about more complicated and valuable topics.

I'd like to see the site actually live up to the title. Some ideas for topics I'd like to see more coverage on are: hiring decisions, analyzing attractive markets, brainstorming business ideas, problems/tips on expanding, what makes a successful entrepreneur, raising money from investors. Those are just some things off the top of my head, I'm sure a lot of you can think of many others. Basically what I'm getting at is that I want to push the boundaries of what people feel comfortable discussing. The way I got better at poker was by responding to and analyzing situations I didn't really understand. I was wrong a lot but I learned a ton and I think the same can happen here.




I'll probably add some things to this thread as I think of them but I'll post this for now so people can start discussing it, commenting on it and telling me I'm a jackass. Feel free to post any opinions on the things I've written, your own goals for this forum or reasons you think I'm being an idiot.

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A note about the link rule...


There is a ton that you can talk/ask about without linking sites. In fact, I think that will do a good job of forcing people to make better threads. Was anyone around when bisonbison killed the hand converter for a week? This was back in the days when there was only one. Basically it stopped people from making mindless posts where they just played a hand, dumped it in the converter and then posted the parsed read out. It made people post only situations they (1) really wanted to thoroughly discuss (2) had spent time thinking about.

I see this very much the same way.

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Good points... However, I think it is much harder to describe a website than it is to describe a hand in poker. Sometimes you just need the visual that goes along with it. If the topic is web design, I think it would be good if we can post examples of what is good or bad site design .

I also agree that people should not be posting their links as an "easy way out", and should definitely concentrate on making their posts here as valuable as possible.

My gut reaction to this was that I'm done with this forum, but you make some good points and i'm willing to give it a wait and see approach now and see how and where it goes.

I definitely agree that a lot of our topics seemed to focus on the "micro-limits" if you will, and we need to learn how to move up the stakes. However, most of us in this are basically begineers and it is going to take us awhile before we become the experts that can generate the high quality content you are seeking. We are learning and gaining experience, and I think you will see that overtime, the quality of this forum will improve on its own, as we as a community learn more about money making and other business decisions (because lets face it, most of us came here for poker, and are now trying to veer out into new territory, and we want to discuss it here as opposed to being forced to find a new community).

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My gut reaction to this was that I'm done with this forum, but you make some good points and i'm willing to give it a wait and see approach now and see how and where it goes.

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Thanks, seriously. I know it's not easy to have someone just come in and say "hey we're changing things and here's how it's gonna be." That being said, I wouldn't do it if I didn't genuinely believe I could help. Also, I hope you can tell that I want this to be an open discussion and in no way plan to make this a dictatorship (except on the links issue).


There's a couple important things in your post that I want to touch on.

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I think it is much harder to describe a website than it is to describe a hand in poker.

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Absolutely, so we're going to have to get creative. I really want to emphasize that the goal is the IMPROVE the forum, not kill it. I want you guys to PM me so we can figure out ways to get across effective questions without breaking rules set by the people that run the site. Obviously this is going to drive traffic down initially, but I don't believe that simple post/day stats are the way to judge how successful a forum is. I think in the long term this will really make things better.

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I think it would be good if we can post examples of what is good or bad site design .

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I absolutely agree and I've already started thinking about ways to do that and still conform to the rules. I also think the group can give some great input on this topic.


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most of us in this are basically begineers and it is going to take us awhile before we become the experts that can generate the high quality content you are seeking

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Fair enough. A lot of my faith in my plan comes from empirical evidence. When I started posting on 2+2 about 2 1/2 years ago I was playing small stakes limit. There was a big group of us posting in that area that had all joined the site in a 6 month-ish range. We all started as novices together and out of that group came some phenomenal learning and truly awesome players. Putting yourself in a position where you are struggling just to tread water (keep up with complicated discussion) is the best way to learn in my experience. I learned most of what I know about business and finance the same way and I tell everyone that that asks how to learn those things.

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I think you will see that overtime, the quality of this forum will improve on its own

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Maybe, but I think I can accelerate that process. I'm interested in trying and I've ben given the chance by Mat.

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I think you will see that overtime, the quality of this forum will improve on its own

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Maybe, but I think I can accelerate that process. I'm interested in trying and I've ben given the chance by Mat.

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Any help you can provide will definitely be appreciated. Here's hoping for the best! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think you will see that overtime, the quality of this forum will improve on its own

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Maybe, but I think I can accelerate that process. I'm interested in trying and I've ben given the chance by Mat.

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Any help you can provide will definitely be appreciated. Here's hoping for the best! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Thanks for the support. I've got some ideas for what I think could be interesting threads. I might post one tonight if I get some more time to think about it, otherwise look out for something tomorrow.

It's going to take some time to iron out the way to do this and to get everyone on board, but I do honestly believe we are heading in a more productive direction.

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Evan,
Do you have your own website? Also, could you be less vague on this "creative" stuff? Seriously, without a fully functional website to peruse, I don't know how anyone could make a post that would offer the same insightful responses without being a total PITA. I'll give it a shot, but I honestly don't think this is possible. "Eliminating the hand convertor" is in no way analagous to not being able to eliminating the ability to link.

Basically, you may be able to be able to create something that is the best option without links, but I don't believe there is anything you could do the make the forum better than it could be with them.

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Do you have your own website? Also, could you be less vague on this "creative" stuff? Seriously, without a fully functional website to peruse, I don't know how anyone could make a post that would offer the same insight without being a total PITA. I'll give it a shot, but I honestly don't think this is possible. "Eliminating the hand convertor" is in no way analagous to not being able to look at a many pages of a website.

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Yes I have a website.

When I said "get more creative" I was trying to find something nicer than "stop being lazy and making low content posts about your blogroll or what color scheme looks the best with the Kubrick layout in Wordpress." This includes more complicated topics as well as breaking down the parts of a website/business that are really relevant to what you're trying to learn. For example, this thread works just as well without the link to the site. There's nothing I can't understand about html, php or advertising coupons by not being able to see the site he originally linked.

The point I'm getting at, which seems to be totally lost on this forum for some reason, is that there are things you should be focusing on beyond what you see on the website. The forum is called "money making and business" so I assume that's what you guys want to talk about. If that's not the case...well I guess we'll find out because everyone will stop posting in this forum and Mat will get a ton of PM's about how much I suck. Honestly though, why would you come to this forum if you weren't interested in more complex topics?

Now on the other hand, if you wanted a forum called adsense/internet marketing/more adsense you may well need website links. I wouldn't be that interested in that forum though. I don't think most of you would either if you had a better option. That's what I want to make happen.

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First off, that thread blows and we know it. The poker shirt bed is a better example of a recent thread that needs to be seen to properly understand the question at hand.

Second, the look of a website and layout has a TON to do with the making money with internet business.

Third, a large part of the people using this forum seem to be people with adsense and affiliate businesses, so just because you don't want that doesn't mean we don't want that.

I come to this forum because I want to talk internet business with poker players. If I wanted to talk internet business with internet businessmen, I could definitely go elsewhere. It's the 2+2 POV that I'm interested in and I'm not even working on poker related websites.

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I could write 5 pages about this. But why don't I just begin at the end with the real kicker. This is 2+2's rule. End of story. You can fight all you want I guess, but I think I've been pretty clear about that rule.

Now, I think that can lead to an improved forum. If you're not interested in what I think is an improvement then I'm not really sure what to say. It's probably worth writing Mat a strongly-worded PM voicing your displeasure with me as a mod. More pragmatically, there might just be a chance that 2+2 isn't hosting the discussion forum you are looking for. There are lots of things I use 2+2 as a resource for, but I also read many other websites because this isn't a catch-all. If what you're looking for is internet marketing with lots of links to people's sites from the point of view of 2+2ers I guess I can't help you.

If you're interested in entrepreneurial discussion from 2+2ers I might have an excellent product in store.

Obviously I cannot make you like the way I do things. I don't intend to try. I do intent to make my best effort to improve this forum as long as the people running the show decide to let me. Arguing about a rule that's not even in my control just seems like a real waste of everyone's time though.

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I could write 5 pages about this. But why don't I just begin at the end with the real kicker. This is 2+2's rule. End of story. You can fight all you want I guess, but I think I've been pretty clear about that rule.

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From Mat Sklansky earlier today...
"all that said, we are flexible and if the moderators fel that there are times when linking to your own site is appropriate, that option can be considered."

Did you miss this completely? It's not a hard and fast rule apparently. We are asking for some leeway.

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What is happening is the lowest-barrier-to-entry businesses, web sites, have become the enthusiastic focus here.

The energy is there for these topics. Consider spinning off a forum on these topics; there is clear interest. Kill it if it does not get traction.

If it takes, make it plain in the MMB forum or F/MMB stickies that web-site-moneymaking is a distinct forum. See my post in ATF on 'Posting Links in the MMB Forum' for tips on how to manage an anti-spam policy for posted links across all the forums.

See:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1

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I could write 5 pages about this. But why don't I just begin at the end with the real kicker. This is 2+2's rule. End of story. You can fight all you want I guess, but I think I've been pretty clear about that rule.

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From Mat Sklansky earlier today...
"all that said, we are flexible and if the moderators fel that there are times when linking to your own site is appropriate, that option can be considered."

Did you miss this completely? It's not a hard and fast rule apparently. We are asking for some leeway.

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Man, it's really hard to think you're asking serious questions at this point. But here is my serious response...

From me, earlier in THIS THREAD, in bold font...
"If you want to make a post but feel like this rule hinders you please PM me and I will help you find a solution that benefits you, the forum readers and 2+2."

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I'm kinda curious how the forum project is gonna work out without being able to link to the project websites.

Not that it seems to really be going anywhere anyway.

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What is happening is the lowest-barrier-to-entry businesses, web sites, have become the enthusiastic focus here.

The energy is there for these topics. Consider spinning off a forum on these topics; there is clear interest. Kill it if it does not get traction.

If it takes, make it plain in the MMB forum or F/MMB stickies that web-site-moneymaking is a distinct forum. See my post in ATF on 'Posting Links in the MMB Forum' for tips on how to manage an anti-spam policy for posted links across all the forums.

See:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...age=0&vc=1

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Mr. Now, that is a totally reasonable post. I can't make any promises about the direction things will go and I'm not the one that would make this kind of decision, but I just want to thank you for doing something other than aimlessly complaining about a rule I didn't make but was asked to enforce. As you can probably tell there's a lot of change going on now and at the moment I'm concerned with a couple things a lot more than creating some sort of link-evaluating algorithm. That may come in time, who knows.

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I could write 5 pages about this. But why don't I just begin at the end with the real kicker. This is 2+2's rule. End of story. You can fight all you want I guess, but I think I've been pretty clear about that rule.

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From Mat Sklansky earlier today...
"all that said, we are flexible and if the moderators fel that there are times when linking to your own site is appropriate, that option can be considered."

Did you miss this completely? It's not a hard and fast rule apparently. We are asking for some leeway.

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Man, it's really hard to think you're asking serious questions at this point. But here is my serious response...

From me, earlier in THIS THREAD, in bold font...
"If you want to make a post but feel like this rule hinders you please PM me and I will help you find a solution that benefits you, the forum readers and 2+2."

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Sorry, I apparently misinterpreted that statement because it mentions nothing about actually posting links.

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I could write 5 pages about this. But why don't I just begin at the end with the real kicker. This is 2+2's rule. End of story. You can fight all you want I guess, but I think I've been pretty clear about that rule.

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From Mat Sklansky earlier today...
"all that said, we are flexible and if the moderators fel that there are times when linking to your own site is appropriate, that option can be considered."

Did you miss this completely? It's not a hard and fast rule apparently. We are asking for some leeway.

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Man, it's really hard to think you're asking serious questions at this point. But here is my serious response...

From me, earlier in THIS THREAD, in bold font...
"If you want to make a post but feel like this rule hinders you please PM me and I will help you find a solution that benefits you, the forum readers and 2+2."

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Sorry, I apparently misinterpreted that statement because it mentions nothing about actually posting links.

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Maybe this would be clearer.


DO NOT POST LINKS. If you want to make a post but believe that post would be in violation of this rule, please PM and I will do my best to work out an equitable solution. At times that solution may be posting the link. There are two things I will not do now. (1) Promise that that will ever happen (2) Outline a scenario in which that would happen. As Mat said, we are flexible. But the standard rule remains that you may not post links to sites you are personally affiliated with without permission.

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MM&B had a particular culture and was headed down a particular path. Sniper came on as mod and kind of derailed that. Now this forum has no direction or synergy to it. That was a special time and environment. We realy did not have a mod. It was user policied unless someone realy go out of line. That was cool, but we will never return to that.

This is the way I look at it. We can probably find the kind of discusion and posting capabilities out there that we used to have on this forum. Just go somewhere else for that. Maybe someone on here could build such a forum there is obviously an audiance for it as you can see from the events of today.

With that being said Im very exited to have a moderator like Evan. He seems to genuinly care about this forum so lets just go with it and see where it goes. Maybe this will be a totaly useful resource in ways we can not imagine right now. Lets give Evan a chance and lets all work together to make this work.

It doesnt matter if we think that we should be able to post links. Mat has made it perfectly clear that posting links to our sites will not be acceptable. There is nothing we can do about that.

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How about full size screenshots of our site with the URL clearly visible?

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majesty, thanks for the support. I appreciate it.

I don't really plan on making this a policed forum. That's exactly why my goal is not just "get rid of links" but rather "change the discussion to a valuable direction that requires fewer links". Like you said, there's definitely a market for other sorts of discussion. There's markets for lots of discussion on the internet and obviously 2+2 is only going to cater to a certain portion of that. And you're exactly right, whining about a rule isn't going to make this place any better.

Again, PM ME IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A POST BUT IT WOULD VIOLATE THIS RULE BECAUSE WE ARE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE ARE FLEXIBLE AND GYMNASTS ARE FLEXIBLE TOO AND THATS HOT BECAUSE THEY ARE PROBABLY BETTER IN BED...wait, what? Yea, you get it.

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How about full size screenshots of our site with the URL clearly visible?

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This is an idea MEbenhoe and I were just chatting about on AIM. Give us some time to conference with the bosses before we make any final decisions.

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Evan said this in the other thread:

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Think about how much more valuable the discussion could be if we had threads about how to brainstorm ideas, what steps are necessary for expanding from X size to Y size, how to raise money from outside investors, what new technology trends have the highest margins, etc. Wouldn't you rather see that than 100 posts about why someone's CTR is 20% lower than their friend's?



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Eh I could careless between the two. Neither are interesting to read. But I'll ask the people that actually POST here... not the mods who are mods and never post advice.

Would you rather read "what steps are necessary for expanding from X size to Y size, how to raise money from outside investors, what new technology trends have the highest margins, etc."

or

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...e=0#Post9504592

and

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post8869239

If Evan and MEbenhoe want threads on specific topics than start making those threads and offering your valuable input. People post what they're interested in. Not what you're interested in.

Cheers,

Josh

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Josh, did I accidentally piss in your cheerios?

Congrats on making 40k in 7 months.

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No sense in fighting it, just continue to use other marketing forums that are available and leave this one.

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Josh, did I accidentally piss in your cheerios?

Congrats on making 40k in 7 months.

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No not at all. I have nothing wrong with you in particular. What i'm trying to get across is it really seems like the posters want different topics here than the mods do.

Is that simple enough to understand without resorting to dumb comments?

Cheers,

Josh

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btw josh, I don't see why you couldn't make either of those threads today. I just skimmed them and I'm kinda tired so maybe I'm missing some hyperspam or something, but it looks like one's about setting up a blog over a few months and one is about what you do every day to check your adsense. Am I right?

If I am, I don't really get your post. Obviously you're not under the impression that people can only post on the random string of topic ideas I listed, right?

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Josh, did I accidentally piss in your cheerios?

Congrats on making 40k in 7 months.

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No not at all. I have nothing wrong with you in particular. What i'm trying to get across is it really seems like the posters want different topics here than the mods do.

Is that simple enough to understand without resorting to dumb comments?

Cheers,

Josh

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Listen man, I've responded to a lot of bitchy posts today where people specifically attacked me for things that I didn't do. I'll try to break down the post you partially quoted and make it clearer.

1) New enforcement of existing rules prohibits links to sites you're affiliated with
2) A lot of the threads in this forum have posts like that
3)Therefore a lot of the threads that people are used to making cannot be made in the future
4) To try to help the forum I suggested topics that I thought were interesting that complied with the rules, I did not in any way force people to post things related to these topics
5) There is no 5, that's how simple this is



I know people don't post things because I'm interested in them. Don't complain about my post containing dumb comments if you're going to "inform" me of stuff like that, okay?

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87% of the guys here are into web-site-revenue-generation via AdSense, etc.

To all of you: learn something about SEO and most of your problems are solved. The remaining guys that are into starting a non-web business are just going to have to get creative in terms of finding and deploying resources.

This is what getting started is all about.

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Evan,

I understand your desire to bring discussions to the next level. However, a lot of posters here (like myself), are just stepping into this world. We are not ready for these advanced topics. We need people to show us what we are doing wrong with the basics.

To use another stupid poker analogy, killing the ability to link to sites (IMO) is similar to getting rid of low-stakes NL and requiring those posters to post constructive HSNL posts.

I understand 2p2's advertising policies, but at the same time, it really puts a detriment on this forum.

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I rarely stop by here if ever anymore. The fact is there are better forums for internet marketing as well as traditional business.

The only reason I come here is because I have respect for a lot of the posters, and most of us share a poker background, so it is a nice community, but....

The fact that we can't post links, or even have a sig with a link, is just ridiculous.

2+2 gained it's success because of online poker. Poker, unfortunately, is dying. If they want to continue to enjoy the success they should be doing everything they can to save the forum.

Not allowing posts or discussion on topics that members are actively requesting is probably the best way to kill a forum fast.

The advertising policy is BS. You want us to fill your website with quality content so we attract more visitors and advertising revenues, yet we can't even post a f'n link to our website to get some feedback from fellow members?

This forum is dying, and no one is doing a damn thing to stop it.

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Just an example, but I was planning on doing a full disclosure campaign here, where I show my website, my keyword lists, and explain every aspect of the marketing and presentation involved.

People could follow along, if I made money I'd report how much, if I lost money I'd report that too. Bottom line, people who are interested in affiliate marketing like most of this forum, would be interested to read it.

Can't do that now. Can't even do it in my blog and link to it.

That's how the link rule takes away from this forum. Like I said, this forum is on the way out, and it seems like the site admin is too stubborn to listen to the people who make their money for them and change it.

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Scotty,

Do you have AIM? I would like to talk to you.

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scotty, that was a great little production there.

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Considering that, you sure seem pretty upset and now I'm not suer why.

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The fact that we can't post links, or even have a sig with a link, is just ridiculous.

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The lack of signatures is actually one of the reasons I can stand to read 2+2. I hate going to other forums and having to wade through the annoying signatures. Bottom line is that it's not ridiculous at all to not give you a mini advertising space with each post you make.

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2+2 gained it's success because of online poker. Poker, unfortunately, is dying. If they want to continue to enjoy the success they should be doing everything they can to save the forum.

Not allowing posts or discussion on topics that members are actively requesting is probably the best way to kill a forum fast.
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Like I said, this forum is on the way out, and it seems like the site admin is too stubborn to listen to the people who make their money for them and change it.

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This might burst your bubble--this forum isn't exactly a hotbed of activity. The post rate barely outpaced the American Idol Wagering forum last month and came in slightly behind the About the Forums forum and the Mod Discussion forum. So don't act like this is killing a community that is (1)thriving (2)lining 2+2's pockets with cash.

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I was planning on doing a full disclosure campaign here, where I show my website, my keyword lists, and explain every aspect of the marketing and presentation involved.
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Can't do that now.

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I'm really not convinced that's true. I know you probably have no interest in working with me on conforming to the rules and posting in this forum, so I won't expect to hear any more from you on this topic. But as I've said at least 10 times in the last day, I'd like people to PM me if they have a post they want to make but it doesn't fit in with the rules.

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I have a question. Do mods on this forum get paid?

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SNIPER FOR MOD!!!

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Not allowing posts or discussion on topics that members are actively requesting is probably the best way to kill a forum fast.

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This is possibly the best statement I have read throughout all of the recent discussion.

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This is possibly the best statement I have read throughout all of the recent discussion.

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1) Changing is not necessarily equal to killing from the site's point of view
2) As I've pointed out, this forum has never had much traffic so I'm not really convinced there's much out there to kill

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For Christ Sake...
It is an OPEN FORUM.
IF you don't like the topic(s) of conversation, start a topic that you have interest. If it catches on good, but don't come along and act like "OUR" subjects are so below "YOUR" standards. We all can't start at the top like you!
The Billionaire Business Genius Forum is down the hall.

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2) As I've pointed out, this forum has never had much traffic so I'm not really convinced there's much out there to kill

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Neither does Other Gambling Games, but it's still around because good information appears from time to time. Also, forums like BBV4LIFE are complete trash, but generate tons of traffic and are not in danger of being canned. So, what I'm wondering is, what is the logic behind deleting/merging this forum?

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The fact that we can't post links, or even have a sig with a link, is just ridiculous.

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The lack of signatures is actually one of the reasons I can stand to read 2+2. I hate going to other forums and having to wade through the annoying signatures.

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FYI - most boards that have automatic signatures will let you turn them off in your settings, so you won't see them.