100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

People love to c/r me for some reason.

Villain is way to loose, a little too aggro. I think he views me as fairly LAG, but we don't have much history.

BB ($18411)
Hero ($25292)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $600</font>, BB calls $400.

Flop: ($1200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($1200) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $800</font>, Hero calls $800.

River: ($2800) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $6200</font>, Hero

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

seems like an easy fold, you beat air...is villian capable of checkraise bluffing on this type of board?i wanna say this looks like 56 or an 8 hoping youdd fire river

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

Jman,

can you exlain your thought process on the flop and turn a little before we get to the river?

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

fk me... i prob fold again. he could have missed sd, fd and if he knows you v. bet thin he might c/r you there but im not sure. but to justify a call your bet looks like slowplayed flop hand, K or a very thin value bet. and if you AK, KQ you'd prob bet flop so he might think your on total air and try c/r you, however i think people would lean toward playing and 8 like that v. you so i'd fold.

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Jman,

can you exlain your thought process on the flop and turn a little before we get to the river?

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The short answer is, I have FPS.

The long answer is that he wasn't going to c/c flop with much. He would fold or raise. When he raises (which he will pretty light) the hand gets very sticky for me, so I wanted to keep the pot under control while disguising my hand.

I still bet this flop with TT 80% of the time prolly.

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i think i play flop same small % of time, but how it was played, i think rivers a fold.

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

As played fold

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is pushing suicide?

.. id prolly call

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if you ever call a checkraise with this type of hand, this is the place to do it I think.

dumb LAG opponent + drawy board + basically minraise river which they love to do with total crap...yeah I probably wouldn't call this in an actual game but I kinda want to.

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is pushing suicide?

.. id prolly call

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Oooooh. Didn't consider pushing. That has some merits. He's repping like 99/KT. Hmmmmm.

I think I don't like it, but I don't totally hate it. I just don't know what I can really rep.

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

KK? A8? 88?

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KK? A8? 88?

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I would at least raise turn with one of these. Maybe not KK.

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

Why raise turn? He's drawing dead 9 times out of 10. Better to induce a bluff on river?

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to me it looks like he thinks you floated the turn and are stabbing at the river, but he's too weak to call

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is pushing suicide?

.. id prolly call

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he's pretty much repping trips/straight. shoving doesn't make anything better fold. if you shove i think it has to be for value, hoping he reads it as a rebluff and calls light

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is pushing suicide?

.. id prolly call

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Oooooh. Didn't consider pushing. That has some merits. He's repping like 99/KT. Hmmmmm.

I think I don't like it, but I don't totally hate it. I just don't know what I can really rep.

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KK

if you can have TT in this spot, yuo can have KK.
just wanted to throw it out there as an option tho

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

I think the key thing here is that Jman has a reputation for value betting thin and making big calls once he's C/R after a thin value bet..... making this a fold a good part of the time.....

If hero was a random, I would call.

Re: 100/200 Facing Another River C/R
 

Jman, just wondering, but how much more % time (if it all) do u take a check behind line on a flop like this with 1010 than you would w/ something like QQ or KK