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OK, I have one built in PHP...

I wasn't going to worry about making this an executable cause it was working just fine. Now, however, after adding a HUD, it's sllloooowwwww. Plus, for whatever reason, I can't get more than 2 HUD's going at a time (and I like to multi the $50's).

Therefore, I will be converting my code to some windows based thingie (I love techinical terms).

So let me ask again, since I'm going to have to make this into something that I can release to the masses:

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..and, just to note.. other locations would be whatever ones that I'd be able to <u>test</u>. If I can't log on as a US player, then I won't be able to test it (unless I can do play money; the HH's should be the same).

By the by.. here is a screen shot of what I currently track:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~bagsmode...ScreenShot.jpg
Each player's name has a link that will give you "deeper" stats.. hands that they've: Limp-Behind .. Raise-Open .. Raise-Limpers .. Sacks .. ReRaises-Pre .. Bets-Post .. Raises-Post

On the table above, when I say a % of xx; the xx is the number of hands that I'm taking the percent for. For anything that I list as a definite, like the AveBetHand (average hand the player's bet post), I take my stats ONLY from hands that were shown down. This is why numbers are less.

Let me know any other questions.

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i will purchase pokerroom version if it comes to fruition

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btw, any thoughts on the things that I'm displaying?

I plan to work in a note type thing that will allow you to peg the player as a shark or fish, etc. maybe I'll do a small pics or colors similar to what pokerroom has, to make it easy.

Any input appreciated.

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win loss is the most important IMO

this are more technical but I would like to see 3-bet stats predraw

and check/call vs. check/fold postdraw agression

otherwise awesome

or rather % folded to post draw bet

And blind stealing stats..

but still awesome

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And blind stealing stats..

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Define.. raised-opened from button or SB?
Would you want a raise-opened from the CO included?

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I try to find people that are playing non-optimal strategies in 5CD.

I would like to see some stats on how often they draw to a str8 or a flush. Even more advanced is if they draw 2 to a str8 or flush (possibly defined as drawing 1 or 2 with no pairs at showdown and 3 or 4 to a str8 or flush).

How often do they just draw 2 and end up with a pair and an ace kicker.

What their minimum entry into a pot by position is?

Thanks for the efforts.

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I try to find people that are playing non-optimal strategies in 5CD.

I would like to see some stats on how often they draw to a str8 or a flush. Even more advanced is if they draw 2 to a str8 or flush (possibly defined as drawing 1 or 2 with no pairs at showdown and 3 or 4 to a str8 or flush).

How often do they just draw 2 and end up with a pair and an ace kicker.

What their minimum entry into a pot by position is?

Thanks for the efforts.

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How's this?

http://www.frontiernet.net/~bagsmode...ShotDeeper.jpg

This (and the other tables that you can jump to from the links at the top) are accessed by clicking on the player's name on the first screen that I showed above

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I don't know if there has been much in terms of datamining in 5CD, so I don't know if there are baseline stats, similar to hold em. I have lots of stars hands if you want to see them and possibly mine them.

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Amazing, been ask for something like to for a while.
Sorry if i missed in thread but:
This work with poker tracker or is it its own program?
does/ could you get starting hand like PA HUD (shows last hand on-screen)?

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oh, btw, I would comfortably pay 20-25$ for this.

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Amazing, been ask for something like to for a while.
Sorry if i missed in thread but:
This work with poker tracker or is it its own program?
does/ could you get starting hand like PA HUD (shows last hand on-screen)?

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It's own program.. therefore, no does NOT work with the other poker tracker software.

The current "HUD" that I have is just showing updated stats of the different people at the table. That is, the same screen shot as the first on that I showed, but only for the people at the table currently. Therefore, once the hand is over, the info from it is entered into the DB, and percentages are updated and a new table shown.

If this is different from what people are expecting, please let me know (I've never purchased the poker tracker stuff when I was playing Holdem and O8).

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One of the keys to PT is having the history of the player in your database. Would the player data be stored?

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I'd buy it for a reasonable amount. Then I can be like the Full Tilt big game railbirds and start dumb threads with the results of the Stars 5CD datamining [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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LOL

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One of the keys to PT is having the history of the player in your database. Would the player data be stored?

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All the hand histories of the user will be stored, yes.

Will I pre-stock it with what I've collected?
No.. in case that's what ur asking.
Poker Tracker doesn't do that either, to my knowledge.

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We will be able to stock it with our existing hand histories, though?

Thanks for your efforts.

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We will be able to stock it with our existing hand histories, though?

Thanks for your efforts.

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Existing, yes, definitely. Thanks for bringing that up, since I haven't stated that ability.

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oh, btw, I would comfortably pay 20-25$ for this.

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i would comfortably pay more

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

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You, sir, are a genius.

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I would buy, just to know my own stats as much as anything. I like the features you have put in, just the sort of thing. Any news on when it may be available for testing?

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I would buy, just to know my own stats as much as anything. I like the features you have put in, just the sort of thing. Any news on when it may be available for testing?

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I'd love to be done w/in the next week.. but it might take 2. I'll let you know. I'm almost done converting the biggest piece of code to C# from PHP. It's taking just a little to have to go over the code line by friggin line [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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You are doing a great job, sir. It is a great stuff for the future of 5card draw poker. (All right, I am overreacting). Will definitely buy it.

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yes, great job domit. I'm also looking forward to all the forthcoming data mining posts!!

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Sign me up for a copy.
I would be willing to pay much more than
$25, depending on how much information it
provides.

Must be able to read eurobet and Stars.

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No problemo.. just recall that I did state that the first version will be Stars only, as currently that's the only place that I play, and therefore only have the hand histories for.

Once I finish with the Stars version, I want to get it out so that people can work with it. After that, I'll expand it to include other sites, once I get some hand history sample files to test with.

~Glenn

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Please don't release this. I think it runs a fairly high risk of ruining online 5 card draw in the long run. 5 card draw is a sensitive game, and has died before. And it's not all that healthy as it is. One has to wonder why you're doing it?

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He is doing it to gain an advantage.

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Update: still going .. getting closer, however, am helping work at a friend's business. I'm actually able to work on the program here, but of course disjointed whenever I have to deal with customers.

As soon as I have a beta version available, I'll let you all know.

~Glenn

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let me reiterate that i am am very interested in a OnGame version.

i would be willing to pay a fairly high price also. i believe this tool would increase my winrare, and i;d kickback a large percentage if that to you.

mid 3 figures...if you get the ambition to do it. i can also provide a ~100k hand OnGame database if that will help

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Speaking of other rooms.. what's the max players that I will have to deal with per table? On Stars it's 6, but when Planet was around, it was 8. I know that Gutshot and Pokerroom use 6 (or is Pokerroom 5?). Anyway, are there any other rooms that have more than 6?

Also, how many max tables are needed (for HUD type stuff)? And, I know it's not as slick as some, but is having the hub in a diff window, like IE, ok? I'm currently not advanced enough to overlap the HUD with the game.

~Glenn

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Speaking of other rooms.. what's the max players that I will have to deal with per table? On Stars it's 6, but when Planet was around, it was 8. I know that Gutshot and Pokerroom use 6 (or is Pokerroom 5?). Anyway, are there any other rooms that have more than 6?

Also, how many max tables are needed (for HUD type stuff)?

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there are 5 ppl max at my tables
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And, I know it's not as slick as some, but is having the hub in a diff window, like IE, ok? I'm currently not advanced enough to overlap the HUD with the game.

~Glenn

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this is not an issue, for me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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One more question for you all:

How many table displays at once?
I.e. what's the maximum tables that you play at once?

Thanks [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
~Glenn

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4 tables

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I would be interested if you can accomodate up to around 8
tables at once. I don't usually play 8, but it won't be
unusual for me to play five or six draw tables, but I've
even played ten just to see if I could even do it. I would
think that younger/more talented players could play 8 tables
of draw (especially if it's limit) without a sweat.

If I remember correctly, you can play at least ten tables
on PokerStars and even on PokerRoom, eight can be played.
If someone can play 25 SNGs at a time, why can't someone
play 12 tables of draw? It's possible that nobody normally
plays more than 8 tables of draw at a time, but I wouldn't
be surprised if somebody from Kiev can play 12 or more. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
(You're including PL/NL draw as well, right?)

Also, do you have any interests in accomodating players that
also play 7-A draw? It is more popular than regular draw on
Celeb Poker (and related skins).

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I would be interested if you can accomodate up to around 8 tables at once. I don't usually play 8, but it won't be unusual for me to play five or six draw tables, but I've even played ten just to see if I could even do it. I would think that younger/more talented players could play 8 tables of draw (especially if it's limit) without a sweat.

If I remember correctly, you can play at least ten tables
on PokerStars and even on PokerRoom, eight can be played.
If someone can play 25 SNGs at a time, why can't someone
play 12 tables of draw? It's possible that nobody normally
plays more than 8 tables of draw at a time, but I wouldn't
be surprised if somebody from Kiev can play 12 or more. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
(You're including PL/NL draw as well, right?)

Also, do you have any interests in accomodating players that
also play 7-A draw? It is more popular than regular draw on
Celeb Poker (and related skins).

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Thanks for the replies. Reason that I asked is that I had an issue with memory (was trying to keep all records in mem, accessing a DB several times in very short succession was bogging down my pc). Instead, I've decided to just keep in mem recs for the players at the specific tables.

OK, I used to play 10 tables of HE... but I start getting a little frantic once I get to 6 tables of draw (personally); I'll try to accommodate 10 tables. If I have any memory issues and have to go lower, I'll let you know.

As for 2-7 (is that what you meant?), that will have to be a later version, but I should be able to build off the same code.

Thanks,
Glenn

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No, I mean 7-A draw (stripped deck: four-handed where
deuces to sixes are removed from a normal deck; if there
are five players, sixes are then put back in the deck).

In any case, maybe 8 tables should be enough, since I don't
notice anyone playing more than six unless there is a player
(in Kiev?) that plays under several screen names.

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Update: Sorry for the delay. I've had to change things more than I thought I'd have to using C#.

I've got it pretty well done, and am currently testing/debugging. As soon as I have something working correctly, I'll at least submit a trail version.

~Glenn

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I would really like to buy this! $25 sounds like a good deal.

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Hows it goin with the software dude?