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I really like Mat's idea of having some 1 on 1 debates in here.

so what I want to do is this. post in here if you are interested and the various topics and which side you would like to debate. if you see some one post something you would like to debate with another poster, issue a challenge. once accepted a mod will create an official thread which only you two will be allowed to post in.

in addition we will create a commentary thread for others to post in as the debate progresses.

I'm interested to see how this works and if it will be successful.

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I don't know if I'll have the time or motivation to actually go through with such a thing, but I'd like to leave the possibilities open, at least.


Topics of greatest interest, and my position with them:

Market commodity currency vs. fiat currency (I side with the gold standard)

Meta-ethics of economic structures (I take an amoral, incentive-based, self-serving utilitarian position)

Validity of the GDP and its relevence to economic well-being in society (I take the position that the GDP is mildly reflective, and not causal, of social well-being and believe that using artificial production incentives to stimulate it defeats the purpose of promoting social well-being)

Nationalized vs. privatized security services (I side with privatized force)

Compulsory vs. non-compulsory education (I believe that compulsory, state-sponsored education accomplishes very little, and that we are all much better off without it.)

Mano a Mano
 

Heads-up debatin', huh?

I wonder which game theory concepts will apply.

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I'm in, sounds like fun. I'm an economics degree holding socialist turned ACist so I've clearly got a wide open mind, plus I'm not down with fancy debating tactics so I should be easy to beat. Unfortunately I seem to end up being conciliatory rather than combative so it may not be as fun to watch as a PVN vs Dvault slobberknocker. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I'd do an lol debate thread...I have lost my heart for serious political discussion because you all are so indoctrinated.

But I'd like to say "America is not a democracy (or republic)" and defend that thesis against someone who thinks it is.

I'll take HM on for the public education thingy. But can we keep the responses under 100 words? I'm not trying to write a term paper here.

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I'm in for whatever, taking the stance on government that less is more pretty much regardless at this point.

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I would do something involving IP protection since it is one of the main problems I have with the AC idea.

I like WillMagic and I know he's on the other side, so I'd discuss with him if he's up for it.

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I would take on one of the following historical political topics:

-The Framers' original intent is the best way to apply/interpret the Constitution: I would take the con side.

-The atomic bombs ended World War II: I would take the con side.

-The United States would have won Vietnam is only it had not fought with one hand tied behind its back: I would take the con side.

-Ronald Reagan was a great president who was responsible for winning the Cold War: I would take the con side.

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I would like to take HMK up on the GDP topic and Andy on the WWII topic. But not at the same time. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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If you don't want two of these running at once that's cool. For future reference I'd like to take a crack at either "is it essential to have a government run education system" or "it is essential to have a government run police force/court system." I'd take the con side on both.

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-The Framers' original intent is the best way to apply/interpret the Constitution: I would take the con side.


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I'd debate in favor of original meaning. Original intent is pretty much dead these days.

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-The Framers' original intent is the best way to apply/interpret the Constitution: I would take the con side.


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I'd debate in favor of original meaning. Original intent is pretty much dead these days.

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I'd debate the original meaning (in favor) also in a backup role.

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[censored],

Great idea man. I would like to take part in this. Although I guess I would put myself as a small stakes debater in comparison to some of the folks on here. Although I would like to try my hand at this if someone is interested in going at it with me.

My topics:

Gay Marriage: Pro gay marriage
Iraq War: Immediate Pull out

I would like to see someone debate snowball in something related to communism.

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Great idea man. I would like to take part in this. Although I guess I would put myself as a small stakes debater in comparison to some of the folks on here. Although I would like to try my hand at this if someone is interested in going at it with me.

My topics:

Gay Marriage: Pro gay marriage
Iraq War: Immediate Pull out

I would like to see someone debate snowball in something related to communism.

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I'll take the anti-Gay marriage (although I am against all government sanctioned marriages... maybe I shouldn't have turned my cards over yet).

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-The Framers' original intent is the best way to apply/interpret the Constitution: I would take the con side.


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I'd debate in favor of original meaning. Original intent is pretty much dead these days.

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I'd consider doing this as a Devil's advocate, because I find it interesting; but it's probably best to have someone arguing who doesn't think he's wrong.

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tomcollins,

I would be in favor of some type of end of state sanctioned marriages as well. I think it would be best if we kept the debate centered around state sanctioned marriages. It would not be interesting or relevant if we just agreed to this point. I would be interested in doing this if we could hammer out the details ahead of time.

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I'll do --

That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

That the atomic bomb ended WWII. --Con.

That the USSR did more to end WWII in Europe than the US. --Pro.


That liberals are more Christian than conservatives. --Pro.

Edit/Jman220: Disparaging comment against ACists deleted. No non-substance attacks against groups of people on this board merely for what they believe please.

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That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

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I don't think you're going to find anyone to argue the pro side of this.

Edit: I guess I should say, I don't think there's really anyone who would argue that slavery was the primary reason for the civil war. Although, I guess I could be wrong.

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That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

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I don't think you're going to find anyone to argue the pro side of this.

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Really, that's surprising.

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Also, how about,

ACers don't make any sense.

That's ok, isn't it?

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That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

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I don't think you're going to find anyone to argue the pro side of this.

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Speaking of, I want this one-

Hitler's Holocaust was the best thing in the 20th century- con

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i would be interested in debating more or less whatever, i am not an expert in economics but i take some pretty interesting / distinct positions on a lot of other issues. ideally a poster who i respect but tend to differ with would have an idea of something we could discuss.

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That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

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I don't think you're going to find anyone to argue the pro side of this.

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Really, that's surprising.

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Also, how about,

ACers don't make any sense.

That's ok, isn't it?

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I accept.

edit: meaning that I will debate with you and take the con side of the statement that ACers dont make sense.

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That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

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I'd be willing to argue that disagreements over slavery and its future in the US were the most important factor in the outbreak of the Civil War.

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Ok, This is what I have so far, I'll update this post as more challenges are made and accepted. I'm not sure yet if Censored wants to run more than one of these challenges at once.

1. The Framers' original intent is the best way to apply/interpret the Constitution:
Pro: bobman0330
Con: Andyfox

2. The US Civil War was fought primarily over slavery:
Pro: Bobman0330
Con: LinusKS

3. The merits of Anarchocapitalism Generally:
Pro: Valenzuela
Con: LinusKS

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I'd be happy to participate in any debate, on any topic, against anyone, opposing or supporting anything.

Arguing against your own beliefs can be a fun challenge. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I would do something involving IP protection since it is one of the main problems I have with the AC idea.

I like WillMagic and I know he's on the other side, so I'd discuss with him if he's up for it.

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BRING IT ON TONE

challenge accepted

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That the US Civil War was fought over slavery. --Con.

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I don't think you're going to find anyone to argue the pro side of this.

Edit: I guess I should say, I don't think there's really anyone who would argue that slavery was the primary reason for the civil war. Although, I guess I could be wrong.

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Anacardo probably would, and would likely win. But he still hasn't posted his Lincoln thing yet, and I doubt he wants to come into this forum very often.

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I'd like to sign up for some:

1. Marijuana should be legalized, pro. (And no, I do not smoke marijuana).

2. Activist judges throughout American history have had a positive influence on our laws. Pro.

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There might be all of three people who read the forum that think marijuana should be illegal. If you want to argue drugs, trying arguing a harder drug con, you'll have plenty of pro takers.

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There might be all of three people who read the forum that think marijuana should be illegal. If you want to argue drugs, trying arguing a harder drug con, you'll have plenty of pro takers.

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You can count me as one of the three. Many months ago I got into a bit of a discussion along similar lines and was pilloried by all manner of posters, they came out the woodwork to lambast me. I don't want to be one of the debators for both possible lack of time and possible insufficient debating skills, however quite likely I would chime in on the discussion thread.

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Massive state intervention is the only way for the economy thrive. Pro.

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i can debate on topic #9 about USSR being more responsible (my parents are russian, i hear it all the time)

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Massive state intervention is the only way for the economy thrive. Pro.

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id be honoured to participate in this.

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Massive state intervention is the only way for the economy thrive. Pro.

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id be honoured to participate in this.

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Name one developed nation that did not use massive state intervention to achieve development.
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Censored: These debate threads will be useless without polls asking people who won.

Also, format? 1212?

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I think polls would mostly just reflect which side people agreed with regardless of whether they were convinced by either arguments.

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I think polls would mostly just reflect which side people agreed with regardless of whether they were convinced by either arguments.

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How about before and after questions?

Before the debate I was "pro"/"con"/"undecided"
After the debate I am "pro"/"con"/"undecided"

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There are plenty of people who don't post on this board that read it. I know it seems popular on this board, but 95 percent of people would not want to live in an AC world if it was explained to them. They will be crushed.

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I think polls would mostly just reflect which side people agreed with regardless of whether they were convinced by either arguments.

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How about before and after questions?

Before the debate I was "pro"/"con"/"undecided"
After the debate I am "pro"/"con"/"undecided"

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Ok, I worded that retardedly. I don't think many people are going to be convinced by the debates here and will vote the side they agree with, before and after. I think it might wind up where one guy is convinced by you and two are convinced by the other. But whatever. Nothing stopping people from having polls in the comment thread.

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I would like to paticipate but have no ability to just hop online anytime. My job is just too demanding for such things to be possible, but with the proper format possibly something like this could happen. I'd like to argue the something about the interplay of economic and political systems, but it really isn't a big deal, debate is fun.

Cam

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Massive state intervention is the only way for the economy thrive. Pro.

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id be honoured to participate in this.

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Name one developed nation that did not use massive state intervention to achieve development.
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i dont think it'd be appropriate to start the debate in this thread but would be happy to address your challenges in a specified debate or other thread.