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"Now, we come to the problem of Rule breakers. It would seem that certain people think that I will overlook certain behavior in the regards to META-GAMING. I placed that in the Rules for specific reasons and certain ones of you have totally ignored that. The following people will be escourted to JAIL and their VOTES tonight, do not count: dkromm, lastchance and LuckayLuck."

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"Please escourt the offenders to JAIL."

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Those in JAIL cannot vote until released.
They may not exchange for items or towels.
They may not do any Night actions, if applicable.
They may be Night-killed, Seer or Sorceror viewed.


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http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/1373650#1373650
link provided for fun

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BGG <<<<<<<<<<<<&l t;<<< us

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BGG <<<<<<<<<<<<&l t;<<< us

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qftqftqft
I've actually looked around and there's like no werewolf/mafia forums "better" than us

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i love those rules [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

so it was 3 poggers that ignored the rules huh

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Those rules kick ass.

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I can honestly say that I don't believe I meta-gamed, at all [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I can honestly say that I don't believe I meta-gamed, at all [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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without reading that thread ... i still find this statement hard to believe

but yeah ... people who post at night go to jail ... i like it a lot

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y'know, I don't think dmk meta-gamed either now that I think about it

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That's an insane ruleset.

No meta-gaming is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaame though. That's where half of the goddamn game here comes from.

Fake edit: The emphasis on role-playing is weird relative to here but expected, I guess. I should have made that a rule in Tsukihime, that would have ended in high comedy (and Zurvan's head probably explodes).

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the cool thing about their site is they have an autocountif()

that is actually very cool
the autocountif also tracks vote numbers and such, so bandwagon analysis is incredibly easy! nich would be in heaven!
the [-] [/-] indicates "strikethrough" or "Cross the name out"
while I'm at it, I would like to rant that 2+2 has no way to show who actually posted what in the [ quote ] tag [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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<font color="red"> Player - # - Voted by
whirlinghurly - 5 - RoyalFlush(5), arkibet(10), bwt2q(12), LuckayLuck(15), [-]dbmurph22(16)[/-], dbmurph22(18)
Luthien - 5 - whirlinghurly(8), Rukasu(9), lastchance(14), Xandryyte(19), kuchick(20)
RoyalFlush - 1 - bluebehir(6)
lastchance - 1 - [-]LuckayLuck(3)[/-], GrimJester(11)
kristiefix - 1 - [-]dbmurph22(4)[/-], Luthien(13)
bluebehir - 0 - [-]LuckayLuck(7)[/-]
bwt2q - 0 - [-]dbmurph22(17)[/-]
Xandryyte - 0 - [-]lastchance(1)[/-], [-]LuckayLuck(2)[/-]

Not Voting: kristiefix

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OK. Votes 1 through 8 were votes for a person who had none at all.
At this time, it's anybody's game. There's no threat for anybody - except perhaps Xandryyte who a) had LHV and b) had votes 1 and 2. But vote 3 saw an unvote from there.

Vote 5 was Royalflush's vote on WhirlingHurly, the first of them, and it stayed all day.
I'd go so far to say that this was no real pressure there, as nobody had more than one, but everyone *could* have. He didn't have LHV.

Do we think Royal is good, for voting him? No proof.
Do we think Royal is good, for leaving it there?
Indeed, if Royal had checked in at any time of the day he would have seen his partner in trouble and *could* have saved him by moving the vote. Would Royal do that? I don't know. Just as easy to leave it, and look very innocent.

Vote 6 was mine on Royalflush. I kind of wish Id picked someone else, really, cos Occams razor says RF is innocent, although Occams isn't always right.

Vote 7 was LuckayLuck off Lastchance onto me.

Vote 8 was Whirling onto Luthien. Interesting that he had a choice of four players to choose from, including myself, to vote for but did not.
Effectively, he *saved* myself, Kristiefix, Xandryyte and Royalflush by not voting them to save himself. But he probably was not to know yet what was happening.

Vote 9 was Rukasu on Luthien, putting him in the lead.
Is Rukasu protecting anyone? It *is* possible, but is it likely? Is he just applying pressure? And if he is protecting someone, is it protecting Whirly - or someone ELSE in the running?
This is a difficult - unanswerable - situation, I get no lead on Rukasu here.

Vote 10 = Arkibet on Whirly. Ark was good, and puts Whirly in the lead.

Vote 11: Grimjester on Lastchance - putting him back to 1. Did Grim see the tally before voting? I would need to check. He didn't change it though. He definitely saw it later in the day, when he did a timewarp. He definitely would have seen Whirly in the hotseat at that time. I think I need to look at that for more info.

Vote 12: BWT2Q votes Whirly. This doesn't change the situation but it makes Luthien need two votes to save Whirly. I don't think a wolf would ever do this.
BWT: Clear in my opinion.

Vote 13: Luthien - sees the tally at 3 to 2. Votes Kristiefix, putting her at 2. This could be an attempt to take the tally in a new direction.

Vote 14: Lastchance secures Luthien's place in second. Is this a chance to save Whirly? Or perhaps a choice to save Kristie?
Lastchance could be an evil trying to save an evil by presenting an opportunity. He could be a marine just not knowing what his vote meant at that moment, or a good special with an agenda.

Vote 15: LuckayLuck takes the vote on Whirly back up high again. If BWT's vote was dangerous play for a wolf, this is bold and outrageous.
If LuckayLuck is a wolf, he WANTS to take risks!
LuckayLuke: cleared in my opinion.

Vote 16: DBMurph saves threat from Kristiefix, and votes on Whirly.
Could a wolf smell death and want to ride with the boyz?
It *is* possible that evil sense the imminent doom and want part of the credit.

Vote 17: DBM moves to BWT - no offers for explanations.
Vote 18: He moves back. Insecurity? Or just unconfidence?
Unknown.

Vote 19: Xand on Luthien, brings the tally closer.
Vote 20: Kuchick on Luthien gives evil the chance to snipe.

Nobody snipes.

Surely evil squirmed in their 12 onwards (or even 11?) There are several plays that *could* have been a move to save Whirly, but many have a secondary effect which suggests good special.

Right now, I'm deciding whether DBMurph or Kuchick have more vested interest in their action.
I'll think on it as I drive home.

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why am I not surprised

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lol

Even I wouldn't consider "jailing" people for that "meta-gaming". No referencing past games? WTH do they do, guess? Bah. That's not metagaming. Meta-gaming is purposely acting negatively in one game to help you win in another.

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Screw jail, send em to the penitentiary.

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I can honestly say that I don't believe I meta-gamed, at all [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I read that day 1 - that was hilarious. Also - I don't think you metagamed either - I thought you were awesome. You and lastchance absolutely cracked me up.

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whoa, wtf, i guess i should go read that thread now...

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whoa, wtf, i guess i should go read that thread now...

[/ QUOTE ]Heh.

I don't know, maybe the one game I played there was bad for a BGG game, but I didn't get a great impression of the place. Auto counting is nice but it's not critical.

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no, that was a fairly accurate representation

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1) NO META-GAMING. This means that one must come into this game with a clear mind, leaving other games at the door.


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Ridiculous. To expect people to FORGET tendencies of other players seen in earlier games, is to expect the impossible, sorry. People are going to place weight on information they've seen before. That's why courts have mistrials if juries see stuff they really, really weren't supposed to see.

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no, that was a fairly accurate representation

[/ QUOTE ]I was hoping it wasn't, heh. There was a chance maybe the theme just wasn't popular or something. But that's good to know, thanks!

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our games' D1 posts = BGG entire game posts

they're afraid to move votes. they're afraid to actually accuse anyone of anything. and they'll jump all over you if you do any of the above.

so lastchance and i die D1/D2 everygame

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As a person with a job, I do like the 24 hour ON, 24 hour OFF timeline of this game though.

Of course, given people's posting habits around here, we'd have 5000 posts by night 1.

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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I think I just read where the supposed metagaming was: a random first day 1 vote. For crying out loud...

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I hate the 2+2 quote tags. php does it just fine, why doesn't this system?

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lol, lastchance and I got thrown into jail again
edit: and dmk too, and about 8 other people

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/1377659#1377659
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Abuse of the Intergalactic Messaging Service in trying to get 12 PMs total instead of 6PMs by sending the entire list of the team to 6 different people, making it work out as this:

XX sends two entire lists to Player A, B and C for a total of 6 separate posts.
XX2 sends two entire lists to Player D, E and F for a total of 6 separate posts.
6 + 6 = 12

LuckayLuck
Lastchance

Just looks at everyone, shaking her head.

"You know, penalty for Jail is losing vote and Night actions if you have them. And since that is going to be one hell of a lack of voting due to ELEVEN beings going to Jail ... so: NO LYNCH !!



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check out what dmk got thrown into the slammer for

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hope not. i have a PM queued up for you today

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yeah, that little ditty (quoted in its entirity) [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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lol, lastchance and I got thrown into jail again
edit: and dmk too, and about 8 other people

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/1377659#1377659
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Abuse of the Intergalactic Messaging Service in trying to get 12 PMs total instead of 6PMs by sending the entire list of the team to 6 different people, making it work out as this:

XX sends two entire lists to Player A, B and C for a total of 6 separate posts.
XX2 sends two entire lists to Player D, E and F for a total of 6 separate posts.
6 + 6 = 12

LuckayLuck
Lastchance

Just looks at everyone, shaking her head.

"You know, penalty for Jail is losing vote and Night actions if you have them. And since that is going to be one hell of a lack of voting due to ELEVEN beings going to Jail ... so: NO LYNCH !!



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See how Luckay keeps himself from being lynched in other games....

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The funny thing is, Luckay was never actually in danger of being lynched.

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The funny thing is, Luckay was never actually in danger of being lynched.

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This cannot be true, Luckay is ALWAYS in danger of being lynched.

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those guys are huge nits. get them to drop by here where its 24/7 mayhem

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those guys are huge nits. get them to drop by here where its 24/7 mayhem

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Actually it is not. When I get home from work at about 4:30 AM, there is no mayhem going on at all. This board is like a morgue. Pogchat is dead.

We need more mayhem from the west coast!

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Maybe we need nocturnal games running, heh.

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Maybe we need nocturnal games running, heh.

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4AM turboz!

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I was thinking long games, actually. I'm not up all night, but if the games ran 8pm to 8am pacific, you could get players like me who can be there for the beginning and the end.

Not ideal, to be sure, but better than nothing, no?

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I was thinking long games, actually. I'm not up all night, but if the games ran 8pm to 8am pacific, you could get players like me who can be there for the beginning and the end.

Not ideal, to be sure, but better than nothing, no?

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Would be cool for me, a few of the other westcoasters, and the European players for sure!

Any chance one of the long games could be set with these times??????

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I was thinking long games, actually. I'm not up all night, but if the games ran 8pm to 8am pacific, you could get players like me who can be there for the beginning and the end.

Not ideal, to be sure, but better than nothing, no?

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Would be cool for me, a few of the other westcoasters, and the European players for sure!

Any chance one of the long games could be set with these times??????

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I would really love to play one of these games as those times would be ideal for me..
Indeed I'd be willing to mod one of those (no way I mod something where the nights are at 10pm EST) and I have an idea to experiment.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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those guys are huge nits. get them to drop by here where its 24/7 mayhem

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those guys are huge nits. get them to drop by here where its 24/7 mayhem

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Actually it is not. When I get home from work at about 4:30 AM, there is no mayhem going on at all. This board is like a morgue. Pogchat is dead.

We need more mayhem from the west coast!

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Maybe, but as far as in game drama, compared to BGG, this place is a mosh pit.

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comparison of games:

2p2=ozfest
bgg=wiggles concert

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BGG is the bingo parlor at the senior center to POG's floor at the Chicago Board of Trade.

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I was thinking long games, actually. I'm not up all night, but if the games ran 8pm to 8am pacific, you could get players like me who can be there for the beginning and the end.

Not ideal, to be sure, but better than nothing, no?

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Would be cool for me, a few of the other westcoasters, and the European players for sure!

Any chance one of the long games could be set with these times??????

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in