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Coming from Europe, I always think of the Italian vermouth when I hear martini. However, now that I live in North America I found that the term martini is used to refer to various mixed drinks.

So, what exactly counts as a martini here in North America? And does it have to contain real martini in order to get the predicate "martini"?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_%28cocktail%29

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If it is called a Matini, it should be Gin and Vermouth. But many bars find it "chic" to call any drink in a Martini glass a Martini. Thus you have an Appletini, Chocolate Martini, etc. All of these are just regular mixed drinks.

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If it is called a Matini, it should be Gin and Vermouth. But many bars find it "chic" to call any drink in a Martini glass a Martini. Thus you have an Appletini, Chocolate Martini, etc. All of these are just regular mixed drinks.

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and taste like a can of hairspray

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I'm a dry martini fan... vodka (VOX) up w/ olives and no twist.

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PLYMOUTH GIN FTW

I need a like "spray" bottle to get a mist of vermouth and wave the glass around it in teh air.

Olives too mmm. only place olives are really goot.

EDIT: Noilly Prat vermouth is the best of a rotten mixer.

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In-and-out Boodles martini lightly shaken with a twist if you're buying.

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In a lot of places "Martini" simply refers to an alcoholic mixed drink served in a martini glass... lame but that's how you get "apple cranraspberry rum martinis" and [censored] like that.

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If you goto a real bar, they will understand that a martini is gin+vermouth.

The downward spiral came when people started ordering 'vodka martinis'.

From there, basically any alcohol put into a martini-shaped glass has been considered a martini.

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The most bizarre development is now, when I order my Martini (Sapphire, very dry, with olives) at least half the time I am asked if I want it "up" or "on the rocks". I want it up goddammit, its a Martini.

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this whole situation is a giant pet peeve of mine.

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Calling a mixed drink with vodka a martini is like calling a patty of turkey meat a hamburger (or turkey burger, if you will).

Drink gin or call it something else, dammit.

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I just want to comment that the OPs namesake is the best dessert known to man, and if you ever get a chance try one out.

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this whole situation is a giant pet peeve of mine.

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Mine as well.

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Coming from Europe, I always think of the Italian vermouth when I hear martini.

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Exactly what I think every time I hear "Martini". It seems way too retarded if a Martini is used for everything in a martini glass.
I'm not sure if I prefer my martini with vodka or gin, both are delicious [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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This thread inspired me, and I needed a drink tonight. Took my shaker, poured a bit of vermouth in, swirled around and poured it out. Added ice, Bobmay Sapphire, shook well, poured, added 3 small olives.