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Los Feliz Slim 02-26-2007 08:43 PM

Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
A friend of mine makes a lot of money and has a personal business manager. Basically, this means that somebody takes care of all his "personal" business: bills, insurance, taxes, etc. No bills ever come to his house, he really never thinks about them. He gets monthly reports showing his income, what bills were paid, investments, etc. He never lifts a finger.

I was telling him that he's basically living my dream and that's probably the best perk I can think of. He said "No, I'd rather have a private jet." Now, once you've already got SO much money that you have everything else you could possible want, a jet would be pretty [censored] sweet. But, right now this minute, I'd get a whole lot more utility from the business manager.

So, right now, if you could have the one of these dropped into your life as it now stands, what do you pick?

guids 02-26-2007 08:47 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
The jet, since I found mycheckfree.com, my bills take less than 5 minutes to pay at the end of the month, emmigrant direct for savings, and d/l my bank statements straight into quickboks takes no time to run reports on. Id much much rather have a maid/cook than anything.

El Diablo 02-26-2007 08:56 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
LFS,

"Hey, want to fly to Paris for the weekend in my jet?"

"Hey, want my guy to mail your PG&E and telephone bills for you?"

I'll take the jet.

4_2_it 02-26-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
If I can afford the operating costs, then the jet easily wins this. I'll just let the trophy wife handle the bill paying.

private joker 02-26-2007 08:59 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
Anybody that can afford a private jet can afford a personal business manager too. I can't imagine having the former without the latter, but I can imagine having the latter without the former.

MasterLJ 02-26-2007 09:00 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
If you have a halfway decent bank, you can get your bill paying routine down to 10 minutes a month for us small->medium timers, and probably 30 minutes for someone who spends a lot.

Bicycles_Biatch 02-26-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
if I was to "win" either... expense free... for the rest of my life.. Jet hands down.

mmbt0ne 02-26-2007 09:06 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
Jets don't take all your money and flee the country.

iron81 02-26-2007 09:06 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
The thing with the jet is that even if its free you have to have serious money to take full advantage of it. What is the point of flying to the caribbean if you have to stay in a crappy hotel? The business manager doesn't have many extra expenses, especially if he'll do my jo or other household tasks like cook.

jjp 02-26-2007 09:07 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
If you have ever flown in a private jet, you know it is the clear winner.

Had a business trip with the company president and got to fly in the company jet. All day meeting in Ft. Worth that runs much longer thanks to lawyers. That's okay, the jet is warmed up on the runway at an airport five minutes from the meeting. Cars waiting for us downstairs, drive from the meeting right onto the tarmac, wheels up two minutes later. It rocked.

If we flew commercial, we may have been stuck in Ft. Worth overnight. Instead, we were home in two hours.

jthegreat 02-26-2007 09:10 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I work for a company that builds business jets. I'd take the jet, no question about it.

Los Feliz Slim 02-26-2007 09:11 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
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Anybody that can afford a private jet can afford a personal business manager too. I can't imagine having the former without the latter, but I can imagine having the latter without the former.

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The jet is WAY more expensive than the business manager. The business manager is 5% of income with a cap somewhere over what my friend makes.

Single guys should be going with the jet, I suppose, because as El D points out it will get you laid. But once you marry the woman the jet helps you meet and you have kids and responsibilities etc etc etc you're going to want the business manager, let me tell you.

What the [censored] am I going to do with a jet? If it has internet access I guess I can hide in it and play poker and hope my wife and child don't find me to go to another goddamn birthday party, but other than that it'd be useless.

Max Raker 02-26-2007 09:11 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
Imagine the chicks you could pull. I mean flying to Paris for a weekend would be OK, but imagine if she spends like two months with you and figures out that you never pay bills!!!! "ZOMG how are your lights still on. [censored] me now" WTF

4_2_it 02-26-2007 09:14 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
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Anybody that can afford a private jet can afford a personal business manager too. I can't imagine having the former without the latter, but I can imagine having the latter without the former.

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The jet is WAY more expensive than the business manager. The business manager is 5% of income with a cap somewhere over what my friend makes.

Single guys should be going with the jet, I suppose, because as El D points out it will get you laid. But once you marry the woman the jet helps you meet and you have kids and responsibilities etc etc etc you're going to want the business manager, let me tell you.

What the [censored] am I going to do with a jet? If it has internet access I guess I can hide in it and play poker and hope my wife and child don't find me to go to another goddamn birthday party, but other than that it'd be useless.

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I think flying in mistresses would be a whole lot easier with a private jet, especially one with a bedroom.

jjp 02-26-2007 09:44 PM

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Anybody that can afford a private jet can afford a personal business manager too. I can't imagine having the former without the latter, but I can imagine having the latter without the former.

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The jet is WAY more expensive than the business manager. The business manager is 5% of income with a cap somewhere over what my friend makes.

Single guys should be going with the jet, I suppose, because as El D points out it will get you laid. But once you marry the woman the jet helps you meet and you have kids and responsibilities etc etc etc you're going to want the business manager, let me tell you.

What the [censored] am I going to do with a jet? If it has internet access I guess I can hide in it and play poker and hope my wife and child don't find me to go to another goddamn birthday party, but other than that it'd be useless.

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I've got 3 kids and the jet would be awesome. I could go to vegas for the evening, the trip would be shorter than many work commutes.

UCLA playing Stanford in basketball? Fly directly to Palo Alto.

Vacation? Have you tried dragging three kids through LAX? Then tried to seat them in coach for 3 hours? Private Jet FTW.

Got a weekend without a t-ball or soccer game? Fly the family to Mammoth to ski. You certainly don't want to drive for 6 hours with them.

Business Manager? If I had enough money to buy a jet, everything is on auto-bill pay and I don't worry if the cell phone company is overcharging me.

fluffpop62 02-26-2007 09:49 PM

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If I can afford the operating costs, then the jet easily wins this. I'll just let the trophy wife handle the bill paying.

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girls don't know how to work numbers, silly! we just put it on our gold cards.

4_2_it 02-26-2007 09:57 PM

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If I can afford the operating costs, then the jet easily wins this. I'll just let the trophy wife handle the bill paying.

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girls don't know how to work numbers, silly! we just put it on our gold cards.

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That's how my current trophy wife has been handling things for the last 15 years. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

By-Tor 02-26-2007 10:01 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
what bills?

ship the jet

Blarg 02-26-2007 10:15 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
A private jet is more like a lease even if you own it, because maintaining it and using it is a big ongoing expense. I'd rather have something like a second house or condo, even a quite modest one.

WhoIam 02-26-2007 10:29 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
If I could have a combination business manager/secretary, I'd do that. I'd love to be able to make requests like "book me two tickets to X," "find me a good gym in my area," or get all my grocery shopping and errands done. This would make a significant difference in my day-to-day life and it's hard to imagine a jet doing that.

Jeff_B 02-26-2007 10:34 PM

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if i didnt have to work id want the jet but yeah the personal assistant would rule right now...

firstyearclay 02-26-2007 10:37 PM

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If I could have a combination business manager/secretary, I'd do that. I'd love to be able to make requests like "book me two tickets to X," "find me a good gym in my area," or get all my grocery shopping and errands done. This would make a significant difference in my day-to-day life and it's hard to imagine a jet doing that.

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Personal Assistant?

fyc

emon87 02-26-2007 11:12 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I currently work as a "personal business manager". We call it Research Assistant, lol.

The jet and PBM aren't really comparable.

kyleb 02-26-2007 11:17 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I have a personal assistant. It's really nice.

That said, it's not a jet.

DrewDevil 02-26-2007 11:18 PM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
Having my own plane is the one super-expensive perq I would love to have. Easy call.

Emperor 03-07-2007 02:05 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
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Anybody that can afford a private jet can afford a personal business manager too. I can't imagine having the former without the latter, but I can imagine having the latter without the former.

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The jet is WAY more expensive than the business manager. The business manager is 5% of income with a cap somewhere over what my friend makes.

Single guys should be going with the jet, I suppose, because as El D points out it will get you laid. But once you marry the woman the jet helps you meet and you have kids and responsibilities etc etc etc you're going to want the business manager, let me tell you.

What the [censored] am I going to do with a jet? If it has internet access I guess I can hide in it and play poker and hope my wife and child don't find me to go to another goddamn birthday party, but other than that it'd be useless.

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When your wife cheats on you, and she will at some point, use the jet to pull chicks.

Alobar 03-07-2007 02:15 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
yeah a jet would be cool and all, but im going with the PBM, Id prolly use the jet like the first month and then get bored with it, plus I hate to fly.

chisness 03-07-2007 02:38 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
Can most jets get from CA, NV, IL to Europe?

ed8383 03-07-2007 03:01 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
private jet is insta balla/superstar status, but having your own assistant cannot be topped, the possibilities are endless.

want some of that authentic mexican/chinese but they don't deliver? send your assistant
feeling like watching a movie? send the assistant to blockbuster
do you want some coffee? send him to starbucks
feeling like playing poker but a good show is on at the same time? have your assistant play while you watch tv and he asks you if he should fold/call/raise

kyleb 03-07-2007 03:07 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I have a personal assistant.

It's pretty good.

...but I'd trade her for a jet pretty quickly.

Alobar 03-07-2007 03:36 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
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I have a personal assistant.

It's pretty good.

...but I'd trade her for a jet pretty quickly.

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ok, since you are begging for it

*clears throat*

You have a personal assistant? wow, tell us more about that please!



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Kneel B4 Zod 03-07-2007 10:18 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
does anyone around here actually have a personal assistant?

DrewDevil 03-07-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
Seriously, we need a kyleb thread about having a personal assistant.

sharkbitten 03-07-2007 10:58 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I fit floats, flys or [censored], it's trouble!

I work for a aircraft charter/aircraft management company as a mechanic. We fly a couple models of Lears, Hawkers, and a Challenger(big airplane-about 14 passenger in style).
The jet is a big ongoing expense to own and operate. Think about paying for a crew, fuel(you think filling up your car is expensive nowadays), and especially maintenance. Parts are not cheap and you have many scheduled inspections that the airplane has to go thru over the years.

The way to go if you are dying for the jet is to either charter one when you need to or get on with one of the many fractional ownership companies that are out there. Then you don't have to worry about the hassles of jet ownership.

My choice would be the buisness manager and get into a fractional ownership or just charter. I'd put my money in better places than an aircraft.
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Badger 03-07-2007 11:07 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
How much does it cost to fly a jet across the country? It's got to be more expensive than just buying a ticket. So as much as I'd rather have a private jet flying me around, I pick the business manager. I'd end up travelling less, due to the cost of flying my own jet.

Kneel B4 Zod 03-07-2007 11:13 AM

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How much does it cost to fly a jet across the country? It's got to be more expensive than just buying a ticket. So as much as I'd rather have a private jet flying me around, I pick the business manager. I'd end up travelling less, due to the cost of flying my own jet.

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holla at backwards reasoning [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

I think anyone who travels a lot due to work or who enjoys traveling would rather have the jet or at least a share in a corporate jet program.

evilempire 03-07-2007 11:16 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
No money = easy accounting

I'd have to take the jet :x

JRussell 03-07-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I think it would cost hundreds of dollars per hour just to use the jet. The pilot and fuel alone are a killer.

If you can afford to own and operate a jet, having a personal assistant should be standard.

evilempire 03-07-2007 11:30 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
I would sell it or make a stipulation that if we are getting a jet all operating costs are included

sharkbitten 03-07-2007 11:31 AM

Re: Personal Business Manager or Private Jet?
 
It's a lot more expensive than buying a ticket. I'm not sure on exactly what we charge to charter but I believe, for a Lear 35 with 9 passenger seats, it is around $2000-$2500 per hour of flight time. Sounds like a lot, but you go on your schedule, to airports probably closer to where you want to get to, no baggage hassles, and a group of people will cut the per person cost considerably. A lot of corporations will fly a group of people short notice at probably a lower per person cost than buying a last minute ticket on an airliner with all of the cattle.

We have a lot of rich individuals that charter us for just themselves who can easily afford their own aircraft but don't want the hassle or just do not fly enough to make it worth it.

I guess it just depends on how much you fly and how you want to spend your money.

I know those fractional ownership company aircraft are pristine inside and out and they offer a wide variety of aircraft.
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