Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

I used to make single chip bets with my AAXX hands in NLO8 (.10/.25, .25/.50, .50/1). There are a lot of oppurtunities for this because of the high limp % in this game. I feel bad that I was angle shooting, but would probably still do it if I didn't find other games (w/o angle shooting) more profitable. How bad should I feel? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Here is some of the evidence:

(notice typical chat in last hand)

POKERSTARS GAME #7889853487: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/01/11 - 22:59:55 (ET)
Table 'Brunsia II' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: smaash ($51.90 in chips)
Seat 2: vualuck ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 3: I'm A Lookin ($149 in chips)
Seat 5: NU Starnes ($55.45 in chips)
Seat 6: BabyTay ($91.90 in chips)
Seat 7: actrosity ($52.65 in chips)
Seat 8: DirtyCuban69 ($49.75 in chips)
BabyTay: posts small blind $0.25
actrosity: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Ad As 6c Td]
DirtyCuban69: folds
smaash: folds
vualuck: calls $0.50
I'm A Lookin: calls $0.50
NU Starnes: raises $50 to $50.50
BabyTay: folds
actrosity: folds
vualuck: folds
I'm A Lookin: calls $50
*** FLOP *** [Ts 5s 7d]
I'm A Lookin: checks
NU Starnes: bets $4.50
I'm A Lookin: folds
NU Starnes collected $99.25 from pot
NU Starnes: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $102.25 | Rake $3
Board [Ts 5s 7d]
Seat 1: smaash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vualuck folded before Flop
Seat 3: I'm A Lookin folded on the Flop
Seat 5: NU Starnes (button) collected ($99.25)
Seat 6: BabyTay (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: actrosity (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: DirtyCuban69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

POKERSTARS GAME #6139478125: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/09/02 - 03:57:15 (ET)
Table 'Caubeta' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: nosenada ($32 in chips)
Seat 2: NU Starnes ($29.45 in chips)
Seat 3: jonestown75 ($15.75 in chips)
Seat 4: Hank4000 ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 6: higgins916 ($29.55 in chips)
Seat 7: magnumgoose ($10.80 in chips)
Seat 8: blacktail39 ($27.40 in chips)
Seat 9: VTXman ($10 in chips)
jonestown75: posts small blind $0.10
Hank4000: posts big blind $0.25
bo9999: sits out
nosenada: posts small & big blinds $0.35
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [8h 2s As Ac]
higgins916: folds
magnumgoose: folds
blacktail39: folds
VTXman: calls $0.25
nosenada: checks
NU Starnes: raises $25 to $25.25
jonestown75: folds
Hank4000: folds
VTXman: folds
nosenada: calls $25
*** FLOP *** [6h Qs 6c]
nosenada: checks
NU Starnes: bets $2.25
nosenada: folds
NU Starnes collected $48.65 from pot
NU Starnes: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51.20 | Rake $2.55
Board [6h Qs 6c]
Seat 1: nosenada folded on the Flop
Seat 2: NU Starnes (button) collected ($48.65)
Seat 3: jonestown75 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Hank4000 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: higgins916 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: magnumgoose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: blacktail39 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: VTXman folded before Flop

POKERSTARS GAME #6137305971: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/09/01 - 23:42:44 (ET)
Table 'Deneb IV' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: stelco ($29.60 in chips)
Seat 2: NU Starnes ($43.50 in chips)
Seat 3: born2play4 ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 4: the_killer69 ($30.25 in chips)
Seat 5: bobby4144 ($5.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Benny Fisher ($5.35 in chips)
Seat 8: Eripitor ($16.90 in chips)
Seat 9: inTO ($13.40 in chips)
stelco: posts small blind $0.10
NU Starnes: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Ac 7s 4s Ad]
born2play4: folds
the_killer69: calls $0.25
bobby4144: calls $0.25
Benny Fisher: folds
Eripitor: folds
inTO: calls $0.25
stelco: folds
NU Starnes: raises $25 to $25.25
the_killer69: calls $25
333777 joins the table at seat #6
bobby4144: folds
inTO: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s 9h 9c]
NU Starnes: bets $2.50
the_killer69: folds
NU Starnes collected $48.55 from pot
NU Starnes: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51.10 | Rake $2.55
Board [9s 9h 9c]
Seat 1: stelco (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: NU Starnes (big blind) collected ($48.55)
Seat 3: born2play4 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: the_killer69 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: bobby4144 folded before Flop
Seat 7: Benny Fisher folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Eripitor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: inTO (button) folded before Flop

POKERSTARS GAME #6476479794: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/09/30 - 16:46:31 (ET)
Table 'Zwetana' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: NU Starnes ($33.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Trolls58 ($19.25 in chips)
Seat 3: LoaderUp ($5.25 in chips)
Seat 4: rizzle_7 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 6: evans davies ($10.70 in chips)
Seat 7: grange33 ($26.90 in chips)
rizzle_7: posts small blind $0.10
evans davies: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [3c 6c Ac As]
grange33: calls $0.25
NU Starnes: raises $25 to $25.25
Trolls58: folds
LoaderUp: folds
rizzle_7: folds
evans davies: folds
grange33: calls $25
*** FLOP *** [4h 7h 5h]
grange33: checks
NU Starnes: bets $1
grange33: folds
NU Starnes collected $48.35 from pot
NU Starnes: doesn't show hand
rizzle_7 said, "how do u fold?"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.85 | Rake $2.50
Board [4h 7h 5h]
Seat 1: NU Starnes collected ($48.35)
Seat 2: Trolls58 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: LoaderUp (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rizzle_7 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: evans davies (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: grange33 folded on the Flop

POKERSTARS GAME #7350215641: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/12/08 - 06:09:19 (ET)
Table 'Jupiter' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: BruceLi ($14.50 in chips)
Seat 2: hamoor1 ($26.10 in chips)
Seat 3: NU Starnes ($77.95 in chips)
Seat 4: GR8T_ACE ($52.45 in chips)
Seat 5: digitalbar ($4.75 in chips)
Seat 7: Caramale916 ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 8: londonbred ($37.35 in chips)
Seat 9: MisterNT ($34.05 in chips)
NU Starnes: posts small blind $0.10
GR8T_ACE: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Ad 8d Ac Qs]
digitalbar: folds
Caramale916: folds
londonbred: calls $0.25
MisterNT: folds
BruceLi: folds
hamoor1: folds
NU Starnes: raises $25 to $25.25
GR8T_ACE: folds
londonbred: calls $25
*** FLOP *** [3c 5d 5h]
NU Starnes: bets $9.75
londonbred: folds
NU Starnes collected $48.25 from pot
NU Starnes: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50.75 | Rake $2.50
Board [3c 5d 5h]
Seat 1: BruceLi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: hamoor1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: NU Starnes (small blind) collected ($48.25)
Seat 4: GR8T_ACE (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: digitalbar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Caramale916 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: londonbred folded on the Flop
Seat 9: MisterNT folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PokerStars Game #3701579666: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/01/20 - 20:38:12 (ET)
Table 'Ducrosa' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: NU Starnes ($35.40 in chips)
Seat 2: yourfuture2 ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 3: JEMMOM ($8.85 in chips)
Seat 4: ABrave808 ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 5: calvers ($5.30 in chips)
Seat 6: ShelbyB ($15 in chips)
Seat 7: GizzyGurl ($36.90 in chips)
Seat 8: flaVius ($32.80 in chips)
Seat 9: vastud ($15.65 in chips)
ShelbyB: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Qs 2c As Ad]
GizzyGurl: calls $0.25
flaVius: calls $0.25
NU Starnes: raises $25 to $25.25
flaVius: calls $25
*** FLOP *** [9c 7d Qc]
flaVius: checks
NU Starnes: bets $2.75
flaVius said, "wtf how did all my chips get in there"
GizzyGurl said, "lol"
flaVius said, "DAMMIT"
flaVius: raises $4.80 to $7.55 and is all-in
NU Starnes: calls $4.80
*** TURN *** [9c 7d Qc] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [9c 7d Qc Ks] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
flaVius: shows [2s Ah Td 8d] (HI: a pair of Kings)
NU Starnes: shows [Qs 2c As Ad] (HI: two pair, Aces and Kings)
NU Starnes collected $63.45 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $66.45 | Rake $3
Board [9c 7d Qc Ks Kd]
Seat 1: NU Starnes showed [Qs 2c As Ad] and won ($63.45) with HI: two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 8: flaVius showed [2s Ah Td 8d] and lost with HI: a pair of Kings

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

wow, awesome

ever have stars email you?

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

i ... don't ... get ... it...

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Wow. This is awesome.

I have no idea why Stars would ever care?

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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i ... don't ... get ... it...

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Look at the raise amounts carefully. It's only a single-chip raise and fish don't look at the buttons - they just see one chip.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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wow, awesome

ever have stars email you?

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Yeah, people used to report me sometimes. One time a guy called what he thought was a $.25 bet and the software just stole his stack, but stars just said he was confused by the chips...duh.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

kyle,

wow, i wouldn't have ever imagined someone so dumb. thanks for clearing that up. what's up with all the flop folds getting like 2 bagillion to 1? they still haven't chekd the pot?

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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i ... don't ... get ... it...

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Look at the raise amounts carefully. It's only a single-chip raise and fish don't look at the buttons - they just see one chip.

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Actually even if they do look at the button, it'll say $25, instead of the $0.25 they usually are calling.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Yeah, even if they look at the buttons it looks innocuous enough.

This is really awesome. How often did it work?

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Hahahaha holy [censored] that's awesome

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

More specifically that is one chip that is the same number as what a min raise would be but in dollars instead of cents, bahaha this is awesome

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

this rules

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

This worked quite often. I could count on a handful in a session. Most of the ones here are special because of the flop folds with mega odds, but I literally did this hundreds of times.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

so sick

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Wow, just amazing. Definite brag

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

pretty sweet, you should continue

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Cue everyone in BBV rushing to try this.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

No way, it's .10/.25 and way too boring.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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No way, it's .10/.25 and way too boring.

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POKERSTARS GAME #6502524487: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/10/03 - 02:04:38 (ET)
Table 'Fricke' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: StrikR300 ($59.35 in chips)
Seat 2: NU Starnes ($99.20 in chips)
Seat 3: davlem ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: AAA_flop_777 ($53.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Mrweb ($121.90 in chips)
Seat 6: Sophie Kat ($10 in chips)
Seat 7: seanKGB ($82.50 in chips)
Seat 9: FFWoodycooks ($46.75 in chips)
davlem: posts small blind $0.25
AAA_flop_777: posts big blind $0.50
Sophie Kat: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [2c Ah 5s Ac]
Mrweb: calls $0.50
Sophie Kat: checks
seanKGB: folds
FFWoodycooks: calls $0.50
StrikR300: folds
NU Starnes: raises $50 to $50.50
davlem: folds
AAA_flop_777: folds
Mrweb: calls $50
Sophie Kat: folds
FFWoodycooks: folds
*** FLOP *** [3h 4h 6d]
Mrweb: checks
NU Starnes: bets $25
Mrweb: calls $25
*** TURN *** [3h 4h 6d] [Kc]
Mrweb: checks
NU Starnes: bets $23.70 and is all-in
Mrweb: calls $23.70
*** RIVER *** [3h 4h 6d Kc] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mrweb: shows [Jd 8s Jc 6c] (HI: a pair of Jacks)
NU Starnes: shows [2c Ah 5s Ac] (HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,4,3,2,A)
NU Starnes collected $98.60 from pot
NU Starnes collected $98.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $200.15 | Rake $3
Board [3h 4h 6d Kc 9d]
Seat 1: StrikR300 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NU Starnes (button) showed [2c Ah 5s Ac] and won ($197.15) with HI: a straight, Deuce to Six; LO: 6,4,3,2,A
Seat 3: davlem (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: AAA_flop_777 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Mrweb showed [Jd 8s Jc 6c] and lost with HI: a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: Sophie Kat folded before Flop
Seat 7: seanKGB folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FFWoodycooks folded before Flop


POKERSTARS GAME #6783260010: OMAHA HI/LO NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/10/26 - 22:32:09 (ET)
Table 'Kraz II' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: TheKaiser21 ($231.30 in chips)
Seat 2: NU Starnes ($94.30 in chips)
Seat 3: frankster200 ($151.40 in chips)
Seat 4: thefranchise ($48.70 in chips)
Seat 5: AAA_flop_777 ($131.60 in chips)
Seat 6: hef62 ($59.40 in chips)
Seat 7: amberlite ($21.15 in chips)
Seat 8: 8 PEOPLES ($108.30 in chips)
Seat 9: popsycle ($73.55 in chips)
AAA_flop_777: posts small blind $0.50
hef62: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NU Starnes [Ah Th Ad 7s]
amberlite: calls $1
8 PEOPLES: folds
popsycle: folds
TheKaiser21: raises $1 to $2
NU Starnes: raises $50 to $52
frankster200: folds
thefranchise: folds
AAA_flop_777: folds
hef62: folds
amberlite: folds
TheKaiser21: calls $50
*** FLOP *** [Td 9c Jh]
TheKaiser21: bets $112
NU Starnes: calls $42.30 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Td 9c Jh] [Qs]
*** RIVER *** [Td 9c Jh Qs] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
TheKaiser21: shows [2h Js 4h As] (HI: a pair of Jacks)
NU Starnes: shows [Ah Th Ad 7s] (HI: two pair, Tens and Sevens)
NU Starnes collected $188.10 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $191.10 | Rake $3
Board [Td 9c Jh Qs 7h]
Seat 1: TheKaiser21 showed [2h Js 4h As] and lost with HI: a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: NU Starnes showed [Ah Th Ad 7s] and won ($188.10) with HI: two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 3: frankster200 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: thefranchise (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: AAA_flop_777 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: hef62 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: amberlite folded before Flop
Seat 8: 8 PEOPLES folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: popsycle folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

I tried this on Party a few times back in the day and it never worked. Is there something about Stars software that makes it easier to believe? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Er, still pretty low. It seems pretty boring.

STOP GIVING OTHER PEOPLE IDEAS I AM GOING TO TRY THIS OUT

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

This used to work better when stars had the glitch where you could reload your stack in the middle of a hand. Then you'd always have more than a full stack for these bets.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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i ... don't ... get ... it...

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Look at the raise amounts carefully. It's only a single-chip raise and fish don't look at the buttons - they just see one chip.

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I think this actually may work best on multitablers.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Can you give some numbers such as:

% of time this worked
hourly rate when 1-4 tabling in terms of PTBB/100
etc.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

lol @ this post

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

This is pretty awesome.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

<3 OP. this was a great read

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

I still don't get, how people can call this.
They think it's a minraise of 50 cents, not dollars?

Also, i loled pretty hard on this one "flaVius said, "wtf how did all my chips get in there""

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

This is so sweet.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

vnh lol

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

i see no problem with it really. It is their fault for not paying attention.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

This is great lol, well done OP

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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"wtf how did all my chips get in there""


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LOL nice!

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

This is SO awesome.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

Um, arent the chips different colors? Maybe it works on people using B&W monitors.

I (hope) I would think heyyyyy thats a green not a brown or whatever.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

obviously you were playing Verizon employees.

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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Maybe it works on people using B&W monitors.


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lol I haven't seen one of them since about 1803

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

How do you get ur AAxx hands to hold up every time? This is most interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

hands where it didn't work plz?

Re: Confession: I used to be a a NLO8 angle shooter
 

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obviously you were playing Verizon employees.

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nh, though I think it's been too long for people to get it