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02-10-2007 07:25 AM

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hanster 02-10-2007 08:59 AM

Re: The Rest of Asia
 
Hong Kong/Taiwan are both worthy of a trip. You should definitely go to Hong Kong just for the food. South Korea I've heard is a really cool place to go to. I don't know about visiting both Malaysia and Indonesia, maybe a one day trip to Jakarta but other places in indonesia might be a lil bit too chaotic. Honestly, Thailand is the best vacation place out of all these places mentioned. It'll be quite hard to top it off.

7ontheline 02-10-2007 06:30 PM

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I would personally not visit Taiwan. Hong Kong definitely would be fun, but Taiwan is really nothing special if you hit China and Japan and etc. I've been to Taiwan many times to visit, and at your age other countries will be way more interesting.

fish2plus2 02-10-2007 06:35 PM

Re: The Rest of Asia
 
South Korea for real its awesome.

skier_5 02-10-2007 06:46 PM

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Laos, as I'm sure you are well aware, is [censored] awesome. Lots of outdoorsy stuff and tubing in vang vieng. I've heard good things about India. Someone I met travelled through china via train and made their way into thailand by land it sounded like an awesome trip. I've read good things about malaysia and when we had a 1 day layover in KL, while the city was not much other than a city, I certainly would go back and see the rest of the country. I've heard good things abotu Bali, Indonesia, pretty much anywhere. I didn't like vietnam as much as say thailand or laos - the beaches weren't as nice and the people werent either. The nightlife wasn't as good since there weren't as many tourists.

steviej1717 02-11-2007 02:56 AM

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I just got back about 3 weeks ago from Vietnam. We were visiting my fiance's family. This may not be an issue for you but we had 3 Vietnamese nationals with us when entering / exiting the country, they live and work in the U.S. Anyways they forgot to stamp the passport of one of them and upon leaving the customs officers said they werent going to let him leave unless he paid $100. So watch out for that and make sure everything is stamped / verified before leaving the customs officer upon entering.

In Vietnam, I am not sure what types of things you want to do. We took a tour of Independence Palace in downtown Saigon. We actually spent most of our time about an hour south of Can Tho. It's a very rural area and the people are very friendly.

It's very strange to have to cross a river on a ferry. It takes about 3 hours to get from the back of the line to across the river into Can Tho.

In Saigon one of the other attractions we went to was Dam Sen Park. It's an amusement park and is kind of strange in the middle of the city it's this huge place that stands out for how quiet it is inside there. You forget just how loud the city is until you notice how quiet the park is. They also have a huge ferris wheel that is cool either at night or day. It only costs about a dollar, 15,000 dong.




If you go to the park be sure to eat at their restaurant, it is very good and has a boat with a dancefloor, unfortunately when we were there there was a wedding so we couldn't go on the boat but whatever.

Taking a boat up and down parts of the Mekong river is fun as there are many amazing sights along the way. I'm not sure there's anything finer than chewing fresh picked sugar cane and cruising down the river to some unknown destination.

If you have any specific questions either pm me or ask in thread.

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imitation 02-11-2007 03:00 AM

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Everyone says Korea (south obviously) is the best place to party and just generally awesome, also beautiful girls.

China is great really you can see an amazing ammount of history etc, partying is fun as well. I think you should consider it if you want to balance partying with site seeing.

Hong Kong is boring as sin, I don't know why anyone would recommend it, wow hanging out with lots of other foreigners in a big metropolitan city, fun fun.....

hanster 02-11-2007 05:30 AM

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Imitation,

I said go to hong kong for the food only. It seriously is the heaven of food on Earth. (Well, HK & Paris I guess)

I had to put Taiwan because that's my hometown.

02-11-2007 05:40 AM

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imitation 02-11-2007 05:43 AM

Re: The Rest of Asia
 
Hanster I think Guangdong / HK cuisine might be the worlds most overated.

hanster 02-11-2007 06:49 AM

Re: The Rest of Asia
 
Imitation,
Maybe. But HK not only have canto food, but as well as Chaochou food, which according to the old HK, is what HK cuisine is all about. I love HK cuisine just because I love dimsum and haven't had it in a month. Maybe I'll grab some tomorrow. hm

Degen,
Actually, Taipei might not be a place you should visit if you only have a month. There would be too much similarity between Taipei and Shanghai. A cheap place to go from is HK since there is no direct flight from China and JAL is too expensive. I dont know the price but it wouldn't be that bad of a deal if you get it early (say now).
Some good places to go in Taiwan
-Taipei 101. Only because it used to be the tallest building in the world. Other than that nothing about it is "cool"
-Yangming Shan (yangming mountain). My favorite place. It's a great place to relax and eat the wild vegetables that restaurants grow themselves in the mountain. A cup of tea afterward is a must while sightseeing.
Hm. Upon further inspection, I really dont think you should go to Taiwan now. Taiwan would score very high among the Asian countries mentioned. But like i said, if you're only going to spend a week in China (a tad short), Taiwan is a place you should save for next time

Now as for China, I've been there almost every other summer in the past 10 years.

If you had never been to China and only had a week to 'see China', what would your itinerary be? (priorities...25% partying, 25% sites, 25% ladies, 25% authentic culture...and the avoidance of any real danger)
I lived in Shanghai everytime I went to China and just went from there, so I would recommend you do the same.
Shanghai has a lot of nice clubs and a lot of options whether you want a place to meet local girls or "foreigners". If you do go there I recommend you to check out Waitang #3 (3 on the Bund). It's right next to the river and you can see the famous tv station from there at night. A lounge I like is Cloud 9. It's on the top of Grand Hyatt Shanghai and it has the prettiest view in the whole Shanghai. But if you want to get high with the local Chinese people you should go to a club called Armanni. When I and four of my white friends went there people were staring at us like some sort of aliens (most of them were highschool/college kids that were high on ecstacy). Now if you really want you could do all of these in a day or two. Next stop: Hungzhou: About an hour and 45 minutes away from Shanghai by car. Supposedly the food heaven of China. It has the prettiest lake in the whole China (The West Lake) and one of the most famous restaurant in China. (IMHO it wasnt the best Chinese food i've eaten but it's up there) This is also a one day trip back and forth but you'd be pretty tired after it. Maybe go to one of the lounges and relax with your friend and some girls afterward.
Next up: Yangtze River. Last time I went was about 9 years ago. I went on a ship (wouldn't exactly call it a cruise") and rode across the whole Yangtze River before they had to build a dam. I dont know if you still can do that but if you can this is one thing that you MUST do. I forgot how I got there, probably by plane. If you do decide to go there I suggest you start from SiChuan or ChongChing. Their food is the spiciest of all China. A must try if you're a spicy-fanatic like me.
The other major city in Beijing: Now you probably have spent 3 days in Shanghai or HongZhou now it's time to go to Beijing, another must. There are two must-sees in Beijing that everyone knows about: The Forbidden City and The Great Wall. But there are also some places that you should also go see: Tiananmen Square (A lot of history), Museum of China, HuTongs (little alleys) and numerous clubs. You must try a restaurant called "dong lai shuen". It has the most famous peking duck in the whole world (if you havent had peking duck you are definitely missing out on life) This makes me drool just by typing it. I'm not very familiar with beijing nightlife (havent been there in 5 years i heard it has changed a lot).

Cliffnotes: Shanghai -> Hongzhou -> Shanghai -> Yangtze River -> Beijing. All these places are very safe in terms of violence and the crowd. The only thing you need to worry about is your wallet. Chances are you will be gyped because the Chinese is pretty cunning. In terms of women, there are a lot of pretty ones in Shanghai but they are also the trickiest kind in the world. (Will elaborate upon request). If you're a foreigner theyll just throw themselves at you, but beware of your monies.(I hate to be down on my own people like this but i feel i should warn you)

Wow i cant believe how much i've written. Hopefully this will help you in deciding where to go in China.

admiralfluff 02-11-2007 07:02 AM

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I've been in Shanghai for a couple of weeks and will be in China for another month or so. I have aq trip planned over chinese new year to go do some hiking and biking in Guangxi , which looks amazing. Shanghain is a really fun city (and cheap).

kidcolin 02-11-2007 08:51 AM

Re: The Rest of Asia
 
Degen,

I've got no asian experience, but a good friend of mine has lived in Japan and South Korea, as well as travelled through a lot of other parts, and he liked South Korea the most too. Sorry don't have much else besides that.

imitation 02-11-2007 11:58 AM

Re: The Rest of Asia
 
Degen,

In considering this I think you will not beat finding someone who lives in one of these countries who is willing to travel around with you for 1-2 weeks what ever you want, nothing will beat a guided tour.

I could tell you everything I know about Guangzhou but nothing would beat the experience of going around with me and having the flexibility that a local who can speak the langauge will add. I will not be here though as I leave back for Australia in less than 2 weeks.

I think you should keep that in mind because you probably have a great network of overseas friends from poker to call up and it would definitely be worth it.


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