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If you don't know who Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic is, you owe it to yourself to watch this fight. He's head and shoulders above anyone in the UFC, and it would be a major upset if this fight goes to the second round. He'll be the next heavyweight champ (unless Couture upsets Sylvia, in which case he'll just steamroll Couture in the very next title fight).

Silva destroying Lutter will be just as entertaining. This card doesn't really have any great evenly-matched fights, but there should be lots of KO's.

Main Card Bouts:
-Mirko Cro Cop (#2 Heavyweight in the World) vs. Eddie Sanchez
-Anderson Silva (#2 Middleweight) vs. Travis Lutter
-Quinton Jackson (#7 Light Heavyweight) vs. Marvin Eastman
-Roger Huerta vs. John Halverson
-Scott Smith vs. Patrick Cote

Preliminary Bouts [bout placement is subject to change]:
-Ryoto Machida vs. Sam Hoger
-Tyson Griffin vs. Frank Edgar
-Jorge Rivera vs. Terry Martin
-Dustin Hazelett vs. Diego Saraiva

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What happened to Serra vs St Pierre?

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St Pierre is injured

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Lutter-Silva will not be as much of a blowout as people are expecting.

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agreed

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i agree, lutter has insane bjj skills, silva has been prone to submissions in the past.

also, is that right? machida is going to be on the undercard? thats pretty disappointing.

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Silva is a BJJ black belt under Big Nog. Lutter may have an advantage on the ground, but it's a slight one. And he didn't exactly dominate those TUF 4 guys. The only way he wins is by divine intervention.

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Silva is a BJJ black belt under Big Nog. Lutter may have an advantage on the ground, but it's a slight one. And he didn't exactly dominate those TUF 4 guys. The only way he wins is by divine intervention.

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No. You are way underestimating Lutter and way overestimating Silva.

People talk about Silva's ground skills, but he is a poor wrestler, has never subbed anyone, and has been subbed twice. He should be the favorite, but I think it is a fight that could easily go either way.

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Silva is a BJJ black belt under Big Nog. Lutter may have an advantage on the ground, but it's a slight one. And he didn't exactly dominate those TUF 4 guys. The only way he wins is by divine intervention.

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No. You are way underestimating Lutter and way overestimating Silva.

People talk about Silva's ground skills, but he is a poor wrestler, has never subbed anyone, and has been subbed twice. He should be the favorite, but I think it is a fight that could easily go either way.

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Would you actually put money on Lutter, though?

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whats the line?

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Silva is a BJJ black belt under Big Nog. Lutter may have an advantage on the ground, but it's a slight one. And he didn't exactly dominate those TUF 4 guys. The only way he wins is by divine intervention.

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Lutter won those fights on TUF with a torn pec muscle, yet was never in trouble. He was healthy when he fought Cote and dominated him. So I think those fights on the show are not the best indicators of his skills.

Anyway, Silva is definitely the clear favorite. All I am saying is that I don't think Lutter will get dominated as quickly as Franklin and Leben.

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cro cop making a good move coming to UFC to get away from fedor

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The UFC put up a list of the bars that will be showing the event.
List of Bars televising UFC 67

Anyone every go to the Playwright in NYC, im thinking I might check it out?

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The UFC put up a list of the bars that will be showing the event.
List of Bars televising UFC 67

Anyone every go to the Playwright in NYC, im thinking I might check it out?

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I've never been, but I have not heard good things. It's near Times Square, which is an immediate negative point. Also, the cover charge is at least $20, and the TVs aren't even that good. You'd probably be better off watching at somebody's apartment. NYC is terrible place for watching PPV's because: a) space is at a very high premium, and b) NY has some weird law that forces bars to pay a ton to legally televise PPV's, which essentially deters any of them from showing them.

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Anyone in the Chicago area going to watch this at any of the listed sports bars? A few friends and I are debating about whether to go to a casino (which will hopefully have it) or just staying in the city and finding a sports bar.

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I'm looking forward to this one. Cro Cop should have about 20 seconds of work ahead of him and I'm interested in seeing is Silva is as invincible as I once thought Franklin to be. Does anyone know where Eastman has been fighitng recently? I'm assuming that Rampage is the big favourite but he seems to me to have been pretty lacklustre since losing to Wandy way back when.

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Does anyone know where Eastman has been fighitng recently? I'm assuming that Rampage is the big favourite but he seems to me to have been pretty lacklustre since losing to Wandy way back when.

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WFA, and yes, rampage is a big favorite (as he should be, Eastman sucks...don't buy the UFC hype)

i'd never go to a bar to watch a ppv, unless it was a card i could care less about...way too crowded, way too noisy, horrible crowd (anything that isnt a 1st round ko is a boring fight), and you're gonna spend a lot more money than you would if you just split it with a buddy and bought your own beer.

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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He won't fight Ortiz, they're friends and training partners. Beating Liddell is a very real possibility, its all about matchups, and Rampage has the best skillset to do so.

If he beats Eastman, I would imagine a fight with Evans, Jardine, or the winner of a Babalu/Forrest fight (please, ufc, please) would be next

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

And let's not forget that Chuck is getting old and becoming injury prone. Rampage would have a ery good chance of beating Chuck again.

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

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Have you seen his fights since then? He hasn't been impressive once, win or lose.

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

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Have you seen his fights since then? He hasn't been impressive once, win or lose.

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Yeah this is what I meant. Rampage doesn't seem to be able to dominate like he used to. His win over the smaller Lindland was at least questionable and was it Pride 30 or 31 where Rampage lost the fight but still won the decision (I remebmer him offering the trophy to the other fighter).

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

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Have you seen his fights since then? He hasn't been impressive once, win or lose.

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Yeah this is what I meant. Rampage doesn't seem to be able to dominate like he used to. His win over the smaller Lindland was at least questionable and was it Pride 30 or 31 where Rampage lost the fight but still won the decision (I remebmer him offering the trophy to the other fighter).

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i wouldn't read too much into his unimpressive win against lindland. Lindland is notorious for having obscenely boring fights and is a tough opponent because of the way he fights. So what's important is that he got the W against lindland

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Yeah well hopefully Rampage does better then Herring (LOL). However, I don't know how far he is going to go as I can't really see him beating Lidell or even Ortiz at this point.

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

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Have you seen his fights since then? He hasn't been impressive once, win or lose.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm aware he's had some mediocre fights, but I chalk those up to a lack of motivation and fighting down to the level of his opponents. And although Lindland is small, he is a tough matchup for anyone.

I think Rampage being in the UFC and having the possibility of making some serious money will motivate him to train hard. He's way too young and talented for me to believe that he cant make a very strong comeback.

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

And let's not forget that Chuck is getting old and becoming injury prone. Rampage would have a ery good chance of beating Chuck again.

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Way OT, but weren't Wanderlei and Chuck supposed to fight in late 2006? What happened with that?

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

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Way OT, but weren't Wanderlei and Chuck supposed to fight in late 2006? What happened with that?

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DSE used the situation more as a publicity ploy for their Vegas PPV then to have an actual fight

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I don't where this myth that Rampage is washed up is coming from. He's only 28 years old and since beating Liddell his only losses are to Wanderlei and Shogun, who are the top 2 205ers in the world.

And let's not forget that Chuck is getting old and becoming injury prone. Rampage would have a ery good chance of beating Chuck again.

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Way OT, but weren't Wanderlei and Chuck supposed to fight in late 2006? What happened with that?

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DSE used the situation more as a publicity ploy for their Vegas PPV then to have an actual fight

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Thanks for the info. I was hoping that wasn't the case. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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[censored]. I can't order the PPV. Is this a general problem for anyone else or is it just here?

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I've got it but the audio is out of sync with the video, not terribly out, but noticeable when they have golberg and rogan talking to the camera.

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There were some pretty good fights on this card. I'd like to thank Anderson Silva for subbing Travis Lutter, who it was pointed out to me in this thread is a world-class BJJ guy and that Silva didn't stand a chance against him on the ground.

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There were some pretty good fights on this card. I'd like to thank Anderson Silva for subbing Travis Lutter, who it was pointed out to me in this thread is a world-class BJJ guy and that Silva didn't stand a chance against him on the ground.

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i never understood that. silva has a black belt from the nog brothers, but everyone was acting like it was a clash of styles. anderson silva is 10x the fighter lutter will ever be. when someone compared his bjj to michael jordan's basketball skills i almost passed out. i think it was goldberg, so its excusable at least.

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"I love Marvin, he's my brother, but it was time for some black on black crime."

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yeah so count me among the people who didnt expect lutter to get subbed. i mean, silvas bjj is good but lutter was elite. and silva apparently did that all coming off knee surgery ~10 weeks prior.

also, the frankie edgar fight was a great display of wrestling skills. you really dont see ground clinics like that very often (groundwork based primarily on wrestling as opposed to bjj)