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harmonix 01-21-2007 01:55 PM

Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
I'm working on a Plo Desktop Background In PhotoShop, one which will remind of all the things thay I already know, but tend to forget after getting sucked out for the 12342th consecutive time in a row.

Just wondered if any of you got some tips,tricks or other useful concepts regarding Plo or poker in general.

Typical one liners will be happily accepted.

Thanks.

Harmonix

holdme 01-21-2007 02:04 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
In the pot limit omahas, players can use 2 of their hole cards and 3 of the community cards to make the best 5 card hand. Players can bet up to the size of the pot at any time.

beset 01-21-2007 02:08 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Harmonix,

Watch for short-stack EP limpers

harmonix 01-21-2007 02:53 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Holdme:I think you have misunderstood
beset: Thanks, exactly what I was looking for

Harmonix

CrushinFelt 01-21-2007 03:12 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Don't always cmplete out of the small blind. I leak lots of monies doing that [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

cmyr 01-21-2007 04:24 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
one thing i found useful for a while was a little diagram of the different wraps with outs/nut-outs marked, ie (with the brackets showing downcards):

45(678)= 13 nut outs
(5)67(89) = 11 nut outs, 6 non-nut outs

Professorn 01-21-2007 04:31 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
I often have notes on my screen, such as "stick to the plan" or "Play solid", to help me remember not to tilt. I don't know if that's what youre looking for.

Would be fun to see the finished goods [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

pete fabrizio 01-21-2007 05:35 PM

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Back when my regular game was live 20-40 LH at Foxwoods, I kept a laminated card on the table behind my chips that had this quote on it: "As for the quietude of the sage, he is not quiet because quietness is said to be good. He is quiet because the multitude of things cannot disturb his quietude." So cheezy.

harmonix 01-21-2007 06:17 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Thanks boys, keep it coming.

Harmonix

joewatch 01-21-2007 06:33 PM

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Don't be afraid to fold 2nd or 3rd set, especially in an unraised pot.

Don't be afraid to fold the 2nd nut flush if the pot is small.

It would be also good to post some common run-down odds

RoundTower 01-21-2007 06:37 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
serious question: how can you see them on your desktop? Wouldnt it make more sense to print this out and hang it on the wall or something?

beset 01-21-2007 06:55 PM

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"STOP CHECKING YOUR BALANCE"

CrushinFelt 01-21-2007 06:59 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
"STOP CHECKING YOUR BALANCE"

[/ QUOTE ]

QFMFT

horrible horrbile habit ha

holdme 01-21-2007 06:59 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
[ QUOTE ]
"STOP CHECKING YOUR BALANCE"

[/ QUOTE ]
this is a very good one. check it after the session.

guilt_trip 01-21-2007 07:14 PM

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THEY HAVE THE FLUSH DRAW AND THEY WONT FOLD

THEY HAVE THE STRAIGHT DRAW AND THEY WONT FOLD

THEY HAVE HIT IT ON THE RIVER DONT PAY THEM OFF

God damn Omaha. Sometimes, I swear...

Troll_Inc 01-21-2007 07:59 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
serious question: how can you see them on your desktop? Wouldnt it make more sense to print this out and hang it on the wall or something?

[/ QUOTE ]

I have all this info on a Post-It note which I stick to my forehead when I'm playing.

sahaguje 01-22-2007 09:19 AM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
The nut flush draw is a good hand only with some other outs.

Even your better straight draws lose a lot of their value when there are 2 suited cards on the flop.

Folding is rarely a bad idea facing 3+ opponents ; raising is rarely a bad idea head's up.

Steal those blinds !

With good draws, you want to commit either the minimum or most of you stack on the flop.

Even bad players can have good hands.

harmonix 01-22-2007 12:04 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Thanks everybody,

I like them all.. but don't stop now

Harmonix [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Boredom 01-22-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
I'm a noob so I doubt I can contribute timeless knowledge, but one thing I've learned quickly is that combo draws, even with many outs, but to less than the nuts, in multiway pots are essentially worthless. Often you are sandwiched between a better straight draw and a better flush draw (not to mention made hands).

mntbikr15 01-22-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Bit of a warning, I have done similar things with post it notes before.

They work great for a few days....then they become part of the scenery. Only way I have found to combat this is to change colors every few days.

gordo16 01-22-2007 07:23 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
Even bad players can have good hands.

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God I need to start following this advice. This is definitely the biggest downfall for players that play LAG in shorthanded games and tend to call/raise thin.

iggymcfly 01-23-2007 08:24 AM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
This one's so important that I just wrote it down on paper for myself:

<u>NO</u> cute reraises OOP with middle trash

Guessing this isn't a big leak for a lot of posters here, but it seems like it costs me about half of my winrate. I get terrible FPS when I'm deep.

sahaguje 01-23-2007 09:40 AM

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[ QUOTE ]


With good draws, you want to commit either the minimum or most of you stack on the flop.



[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, I disagree with my own line here. I have made some calculations to compare the EV of reraising all-in a set with a 21 outer on flop and the EV of just calling, and calling is much better IF YOU CAN PUT YOUR OPPONENT ON A SET and if you have enough odds to call any non pairing turn. I think Reuben discusses this issue in How good is your PLO. It is basic, but I tend to forgot it very easily.

RoundTower 01-23-2007 11:21 AM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
There is a really simple situation where this happens, when you know he will be priced in to call with a set on the turn. if you hit. But this is talking about a huge draw where you are a favourite over a set.

grizy 01-23-2007 04:29 PM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
i have mp3s telling me it's time to stop playing http://www.download.com/Alarm-Clock/...ml?tag=lst-0-2

my laptop is engraved with "tilt is bad, bluffing idiots is stupid, and blackjack is just evil"

^ Sony laptop

harmonix 01-27-2007 04:41 AM

Re: Plo desktop Backgroud with useful concepts
 
Thanks guys, u were all very helpfull

Harmonix


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