OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

It looks like in the past hour, Neteller has decided that it will no longer be doing fund transfers to gambling sites. Not sure about withdrawals. See Legislation forum for details. EDIT: Here is the link.

I'd sort of forgotten about a lot of the legislation stuff. Guess it's still movin'.

EDIT: After the fact I see this was in the [censored] thread, but I'm guessing it would have made its way here eventually. Feel free to lock/delete at your leisure.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

I think they've made a public statement that withdrawals will still be functioning as usual so people need not worry about losing money they have in neteller.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

it's to protect the children. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
it's to protect the children. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

so how do we get our weed and pussy mobkney outta poker stars?

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
it's to protect the children. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

so how do we get our weed and pussy mobkney outta poker stars?

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

This makes my AK < AJ bad beat thread look like a sun shiny day! Seriously, isn't there more important things to worry about?? The US gov is a jopke!

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

IT DOESNT [censored] MATTER IF YOU HAVE ACE KING OR ACE ACE. NOTHING [censored] MATTERS. POKER IS DEAD AAND SO IS ONLINE. GO BACK TO WORKING AT FUFCKING JIMMY JOHNS AND WAHTABURGER. ONLINE POKER IS DEAD.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

why is bengiec not banned from twoplustwo yet? wtf are the moderators here for if not to stop idiots like this from saying stupid [censored] over and over in every thread.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
why is bengiec not banned from twoplustwo yet? wtf are the moderators here for if not to stop idiots like this from saying stupid [censored] over and over in every thread.

[/ QUOTE ]


lol you moron. 2p2 is dead. poker is dead. your mods have left you to my will

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
why is bengiec not banned from twoplustwo yet? wtf are the moderators here for if not to stop idiots like this from saying stupid [censored] over and over in every thread.

[/ QUOTE ]


lol you moron. 2p2 is dead. poker is dead. your mods have left you to my will

[/ QUOTE ]

bengie eat a dick and shut up.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
why is bengiec not banned from twoplustwo yet? wtf are the moderators here for if not to stop idiots like this from saying stupid [censored] over and over in every thread.

[/ QUOTE ]

couldn't have put it better myself.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

24 hour ban for bengie?

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]

bengie eat a dick and shut up.

[/ QUOTE ]

Couldn't have said it better myself. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
24 hour ban for bengie?

[/ QUOTE ]

done

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

According to the Zoo, eChecks are gone, too.

[ QUOTE ]
Email i got from stars asking about deposit methods.




Hello sixers030409,

Due to recent events, we are unable to offer NETeller, Instant eChecks
or Central Coin to our players from the United States at this time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Looking pretty grim at this point.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

So what's standard now for deposits and withdrawls? EFT?

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

ship it to one of your non-US friends and have them transfer to you.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

And write your friggin senators...especially the new democrats.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
And write your friggin senators...especially the new democrats.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's highly unlikely that they're going to pass a new law that says the old law was garbage and that it's time to bring gambling back to this country, Internet style. I think if it's going to be bested, the courts seem like a more likely angle.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

You're forgetting the democrats' overwhelming desire to undo everything the GOP has gotten away with since 1994.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

Anyone up for lighting themselves on fire on the capital steps?

Nah, that might be counterproductive in this case.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

It seems the future for American online poker players lies in the hands of states like Nevada. Pushing to regulate the industry and tax it. This is a few years down the road, but they are pushing to study the issue now.

So, if you are going to throw your support at something, I would go that route. You won't see short term results, but it may be the best thing in the long run.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
You're forgetting the democrats' overwhelming desire to undo everything the GOP has gotten away with since 1994.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, I'm sure that politically, they are all looking forward to jacking taxes and revoking the Patriot Act, too.

Being pro gambling doesn't really seem likely to have much to offer politicians who aren't from Nevada. For better or worse, many people still view it as a moral issue.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
It seems the future for American online poker players lies in the hands of states like Nevada. Pushing to regulate the industry and tax it. This is a few years down the road, but they are pushing to study the issue now.

So, if you are going to throw your support at something, I would go that route. You won't see short term results, but it may be the best thing in the long run.

[/ QUOTE ]

Unfortunately, it's our best hope now for a *healthy* poker market online.

In the short-term, our best hope is that poker isn't completely killed for Americans 6 months from now. As in, there are still enough reasonable funding methods available for fish to get some money in, and keep the games at least marginally profitable.

I really wish I was a good cash game player. With the rake difference, I could obviously make far more money. Unfortunately, I'm not. I'm a SNG specialist. At one point on Party, I would have put myself in the top 2% on the lower buy-in levels. At Stars, I'm guessing that I'm top 15%, if that. Oh well.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

how isn that epassport or whatever that stars is pushing different from neteller? if its the same, this should be a small problem.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
how isn that epassport or whatever that stars is pushing different from neteller? if its the same, this should be a small problem.

[/ QUOTE ]


as ive said, i dont think this is a *major* issue for people who are willing to look for another, reasonably simple means to deposit/withdraw money, but the large % of people that will not take these steps are the same players that we want sitting in our games...

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]


as ive said, i dont think this is a *major* issue for people who are willing to look for another, reasonably simple means to deposit/withdraw money, but the large % of people that will not take these steps are the same players that we want sitting in our games...

[/ QUOTE ]

Here's the list of options from Stars.

[ QUOTE ]
Currently, real money deposits into your poker account are accepted in several ways shown below. Please click on the corresponding option for more details.

* eChecks - Minimum deposit only $25 (available to US and Canadian players only) This is gone.
* NETeller - (we are no longer processing deposits and cashouts from US players via Neteller )
* FirePay (we are no longer processing deposits and cashouts via Firepay)
* CentralCoin This is gone.
* VISA / VISA Delta / VISA Electron / Gift and Prepaid VISA - Deposit in USD, CAD, EUR, GBP, SEK, NOK, DKK, AUD
* MasterCard / Gift and Prepaid MasterCard - Deposit in USD, CAD, EUR, GBP, SEK, NOK, DKK, AUD Guess I'll have to try this again. My initial deposit was on a credit card, but I'd been under the impression that that generally didn't work.
* ePassporte The big hope? Don't know much about it, but it sounds like it has stiff fees and small deposit limits.
* Diners Club International Telly Savalas would be proud.
* Cashier's Check / Money Order / Bank Draft - Minimum deposit only $100 So this would appear to be it. Seems likely to be slow.


[/ QUOTE ]

This seems like more than a minor pain in the ass.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]


as ive said, i dont think this is a *major* issue for people who are willing to look for another, reasonably simple means to deposit/withdraw money, but the large % of people that will not take these steps are the same players that we want sitting in our games...

[/ QUOTE ]

Here's the list of options from Stars.

[ QUOTE ]
Currently, real money deposits into your poker account are accepted in several ways shown below. Please click on the corresponding option for more details.

* eChecks - Minimum deposit only $25 (available to US and Canadian players only) This is gone.
* NETeller - (we are no longer processing deposits and cashouts from US players via Neteller )
* FirePay (we are no longer processing deposits and cashouts via Firepay)
* CentralCoin This is gone.
* VISA / VISA Delta / VISA Electron / Gift and Prepaid VISA - Deposit in USD, CAD, EUR, GBP, SEK, NOK, DKK, AUD
* MasterCard / Gift and Prepaid MasterCard - Deposit in USD, CAD, EUR, GBP, SEK, NOK, DKK, AUD Guess I'll have to try this again. My initial deposit was on a credit card, but I'd been under the impression that that generally didn't work.
* ePassporte The big hope? Don't know much about it, but it sounds like it has stiff fees and small deposit limits.
* Diners Club International Telly Savalas would be proud.
* Cashier's Check / Money Order / Bank Draft - Minimum deposit only $100 So this would appear to be it. Seems likely to be slow.


[/ QUOTE ]

This seems like more than a minor pain in the ass.

[/ QUOTE ]
can u put that link on here please?

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't Vegas, dude. There are rules.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

[/ QUOTE ]


date and time plz.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
how isn that epassport or whatever that stars is pushing different from neteller? if its the same, this should be a small problem.

[/ QUOTE ]


as ive said, i dont think this is a *major* issue for people who are willing to look for another, reasonably simple means to deposit/withdraw money, but the large % of people that will not take these steps are the same players that we want sitting in our games...

[/ QUOTE ]

Honestly, if there is one way to get the money there, that's all they'll need...though relatively instant access is a requirement. I play home games with clowns who don't even know what Neteller is, yet they have online accounts.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't Vegas, dude. There are rules.

[/ QUOTE ]

giggle

who ever said bones was the one line specialist was right

obv

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

[/ QUOTE ]


date and time plz.

[/ QUOTE ]

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't Vegas, dude. There are rules.

[/ QUOTE ]


apparently even in vegas you can't light one up in front of the barbary coast without having cops chase you (or john hurst) down the street.


quickly off-topic, how is it that ePassporte gets to keep its doors open? I believe they are strictly a US enterprise based in LV. Guess they're just gonna squeeze every last penny out before the deadline.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
quickly off-topic, how is it that ePassporte gets to keep its doors open? I believe they are strictly a US enterprise based in LV. Guess they're just gonna squeeze every last penny out before the deadline.

[/ QUOTE ]

According to the back of my Epassporte debit card, the card is issued by St. Kitts-Nevis-Anguilla National Bank Limited.

Epassporte's address is listed as Curacao, Netherlands Antilles.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Anyone up for lighting a joint on the capital steps?



[/ QUOTE ]

Count me in.

Irieguy

[/ QUOTE ]

This isn't Vegas, dude. There are rules.

[/ QUOTE ]


apparently even in vegas you can't light one up in front of the barbary coast without having cops chase you (or john hurst) down the street.


quickly off-topic, how is it that ePassporte gets to keep its doors open? I believe they are strictly a US enterprise based in LV. Guess they're just gonna squeeze every last penny out before the deadline.

[/ QUOTE ]

But apparently you can sleep naked on the floor of a house you've been living in for less then a week [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

I don't plan to deposit another penny.

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

[ QUOTE ]
I don't plan to deposit another penny.

[/ QUOTE ]

its not about you, its about us fishes [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Re: OT: Neteller has apparently [censored] the bed.
 

Any US players here just deciding to bail on poker altogether online and cashing out completely?