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Pokey 02-07-2006 10:29 AM

Voluntary statistics survey.
 
So I've seen a zillion posts asking questions about appropriate levels for various Poker Tracker statistics. The typical response is "it doesn't matter, anything works, concentrate on play, ignore the statistics, yadda yadda yadda." About a week ago Grunch suggested (here) that "someone" should take up a survey to figure out if there are any common trends in the Poker Tracker statistics for long-term winning players. A similar survey was done in the small-stakes limit forum about a year ago, and the results were interesting to most newer players and many long-term players.

So, I've decided to take up Grunch's cause and do a survey.

If you are interested in participating, here's what I request:

1. Check your winrate. Fill in your statistics and type in 94% for confidence interval. If your "Minimum BB/100" is greater than zero, you're safely a winning player.
2. Use Poker Tracker to gather the statistics below.
3. Fill out the form posted below and either post here or PM me with it if you'd rather not make your statistics public.
4. Please keep your data separated by stakes. If you're a proven winning player at more than one level, feel free to make separate posts/PMs about each. (Gah, this is going to suck for me.)

I'll gather it all together and make a "statistics of winning NL players" post similar to the one made by CallMeIshmael in the limit forums a year ago (here).

I've broken the requested data up by where it can be found in Poker Tracker. This is totally voluntary, but the more data I get the better the results will be.

Pokey 02-07-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes:
6-max or full ring:
Hands played:
VPIP:
VPIP from SB:
Folded SB to steal:
Folded BB to steal:
Att. to steal blinds:
Won $ WSF:
PTBB/100:
Went to SD:
Won $ at SD:
PFR:

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop:
Aggression Factor Turn:
Aggression Factor River:
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers):
Folded to River Bet:
Check-raise % of possible actions:

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands:
Average Hrs. / Session:

Position Stats
VPIP Button:
PFR Button:
VPIP 1:
PFR 1:
VPIP 2:
PFR 2:
VPIP 3:
PFR 3:
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB:
PFR BB:
VPIP SB:
PFR SB:

ticks 02-07-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes: 25nl
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 19964
VPIP: 30.42
VPIP from SB: 48.18
Folded SB to steal: 75.75
Folded BB to steal: 58.86
Att. to steal blinds: 30.94
Won $ WSF: 43.35
PTBB/100: 10.57
Went to SD: 20.25
Won $ at SD: 49.69
PFR: 14.26

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 5.39
Aggression Factor Turn: 3.13
Aggression Factor River: 2.08
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 4.02
Folded to River Bet: 66.91
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.6

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 61.67
Average Hrs. / Session: 0.8

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 32.27
PFR Button: 16.3
VPIP 1: 28.71
PFR 1: 17.18
VPIP 2: 26.22
PFR 2: 18.44
VPIP 3: 24.93
PFR 3: 19.5
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 17.37
PFR BB: 6.62
VPIP SB: 48.18
PFR SB: 12.51

Nielsio 02-07-2006 03:43 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: 25NL
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 7818
VPIP: 29.13
VPIP from SB: 50.88
Folded SB to steal: 89.04
Folded BB to steal: 70.66
Att. to steal blinds: 7.46
Won $ WSF: 33.77
PTBB/100: 19.35
Went to SD: 20.92
Won $ at SD: 56.90
PFR: 5.27

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 1.44
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.59
Aggression Factor River: 3.94
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 1.82
Folded to River Bet: 73.35
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.05

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 72.82
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.11

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 28.85
PFR Button: 5.68
VPIP 1: 26.94
PFR 1: 6.25
VPIP 2: 24.54
PFR 2: 5.56
VPIP 3: 32.34
PFR 3: 5.67
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 12.92
PFR BB: 5.03
VPIP SB: 50.88
PFR SB: 3.79

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Kyriefurro 02-07-2006 06:54 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
Pokey,

You're going to need to set some sort of minimum number of hands per level if you're going to have any hope of statistical validity...maybe 20k?

I'm honestly not sure even 20k hands is enough....50k might be better, but finding more than a couple of people who've played 50k hands at a level will be a bit tough.

Pokey 02-07-2006 07:11 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
You're going to need to set some sort of minimum number of hands per level if you're going to have any hope of statistical validity...maybe 20k?

[/ QUOTE ]

Not necessary. If you follow the instructions in the first post, you'll only be posting your stats if there's less than a 3% chance you're a losing player. That automatically balances winrate and hands played in a way that weeds out all but those who are highly likely to be winning players.

kolotoure 02-07-2006 07:58 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: $25 NL
6-max or full ring: full ring
Hands played: 7375
VPIP: 12.58
VPIP from SB: 28.85
Folded SB to steal:64.71
Folded BB to steal:80.00
Att. to steal blinds:7.08
Won $ WSF: 25.32
PTBB/100: 9.92
Went to SD: 23.35
Won $ at SD: 59.93
PFR: 3.16

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 1.51
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.23
Aggression Factor River: 2.11
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers):1.49
Folded to River Bet:17.34
Check-raise % of possible actions:1.61

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands:
Average Hrs. / Session:0.82

Position Stats
VPIP Button:11.23
PFR Button:2.54
VPIP 1:12.24
PFR 1:2.93
VPIP 2:11.19
PFR 2:3.2
VPIP 3:10.17
PFR 3:3.8
VPIP 4:10.74
PFR 4:3.26
VPIP 5:10.58
PFR 5:3.84
VPIP 6:9.48
PFR 6:3.40
VPIP 7:10.57
PFR 7:1.22
VPIP BB:8.90
PFR BB:2.36
VPIP SB:28.85
PFR SB:3.95

[/ QUOTE ]

Gavagai 02-07-2006 08:41 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes: $25
6-max or full ring: full
Hands played: 18019
VPIP: 14.64
VPIP from SB: 27.51
Folded SB to steal: 92.11
Folded BB to steal: 82.22
Att. to steal blinds: 10.77
Won $ WSF: 29.80
PTBB/100: 6.31
Went to SD: 19.87
Won $ at SD: 52.19
PFR: 4.01

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 4.03
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.18
Aggression Factor River: 1.45
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 2.22
Folded to River Bet: 68.02
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.38

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 32.2645 big bets
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.28

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 14.84
PFR Button: 4.98
VPIP 1: 13.68
PFR 1: 5.44
VPIP 2: 13.84
PFR 2: 4.9
VPIP 3: 12.28
PFR 3: 3.95
VPIP 4: 12.50
PFR 4: 3.56
VPIP 5: 14.48
PFR 5: 4.63
VPIP 6: 12.75
PFR 6: 3.13
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 8.59
PFR BB: 3.29
VPIP SB: 27.51
PFR SB: 1.84

kak1154 02-08-2006 12:24 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: 50NL
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 14,803
VPIP: 33.44
VPIP from SB: 56.28
Folded SB to steal: 71.94
Folded BB to steal: 65.38
Att. to steal blinds: 15.28
Won $ WSF: 38.38
PTBB/100: 10.24
Went to SD: 25.86
Won $ at SD: 46.93
PFR: 10.16

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 1.77
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.75
Aggression Factor River: 2.25
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 1.83
Folded to River Bet: 67.84
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.06

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 67.77
Average Hrs. / Session: 0.84

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 34.30
PFR Button: 12.59
VPIP 1: 31.13
PFR 1: 12.12
VPIP 2: 31.22
PFR 2: 12.53
VPIP 3: 26.81
PFR 3: 11.54
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 16.48
PFR BB: 5.40
VPIP SB: 56.28
PFR SB: 8.09

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jsnipes28 02-08-2006 12:50 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes:100NL
6-max or full ring:6MAX
Hands played:28,199
VPIP:25.28
VPIP from SB:46.63
Folded SB to steal:79.46
Folded BB to steal:74.75
Att. to steal blinds:23.55
Won $ WSF:34.34
PTBB/100:10.25
Went to SD:22.96
Won $ at SD:54.78
PFR:10.68

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop:3.20
Aggression Factor Turn:2.13
Aggression Factor River:2.04
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers):2.46
Folded to River Bet:64.48
Check-raise % of possible actions:.80

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands:42.4
Average Hrs. / Session:.54

Position Stats
VPIP Button:25.8
PFR Button:15.92
VPIP 1:23.3
PFR 1:15.61
VPIP 2:20.52
PFR 2:11.72
VPIP 3:17.25
PFR 3:7.41
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB:14.59
PFR BB:5.58
VPIP SB:45.9
PFR SB:5.32

[/ QUOTE ]

According to the True Winrate calculator my highest posible winrate is 15 bb/100 and my minimum is 5.5 bb/100.

Hope these help with the study.

the machine 02-08-2006 10:10 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes:25 nl
6-max or full ring: full ring
Hands played: 13050
VPIP: 18.38
VPIP from SB: 43.75
Folded SB to steal: 83.75
Folded BB to steal: 79.69
Att. to steal blinds: 13.30
Won $ WSF: 31.65
PTBB/100: 9.21
Went to SD: 22.05
Won $ at SD: 55.84
PFR: 5.47

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 2.85
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.91
Aggression Factor River: 1.38
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 2.23
Folded to River Bet: 66.75
Check-raise % of possible actions: .99

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 40.01
Average Hrs. / Session: .89

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 19.41
PFR Button: 7.96
VPIP 1: 17.11
PFR 1: 7.00
VPIP 2: 15.44
PFR 2: 6.24
VPIP 3: 16.21
PFR 3: 5.76
VPIP 4: 12.40
PFR 4: 4.22
VPIP 5: 12.11
PFR 5: 3.73
VPIP 6: 13.92
PFR 6: 3.56
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 10.26
PFR BB: 4.23
VPIP SB: 43.75
PFR SB: 4.82



good luck with the study

HoldenFoldem 02-08-2006 10:47 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
where do i find Standard deviation in PT? & what is this all about ??

the machine 02-08-2006 10:51 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
go to session notes then hit more details which is a little button in the upper right corner under the little blue help sign

Angavar 02-09-2006 08:46 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes: 25NL
6-max or full ring: full ring
Hands played: 12959
VPIP: 19.21
VPIP from SB: 31.74
Folded SB to steal: 70.00
Folded BB to steal: 81.67
Att. to steal blinds: 23.76
Won $ WSF: 31.58
PTBB/100: 10.61
Went to SD: 18.17
Won $ at SD: 52.93
PFR: 6.49

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.57
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.91
Aggression Factor River: 2.57
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 3.2
Folded to River Bet: 74.53
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.39

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 46.45
Average Hrs. / Session: 0.76

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 21.90
PFR Button: 8.47
VPIP 1: 22.77
PFR 1: 7.86
VPIP 2: 21.61
PFR 2: 8.52
VPIP 3: 19.19
PFR 3: 6.68
VPIP 4: 14.72
PFR 4: 5.40
VPIP 5: 17.29
PFR 5: 6.15
VPIP 6: 15.37
PFR 6: 6.59
VPIP 7: 13.84
PFR 7: 5.80
VPIP BB: 8.18
PFR BB: 3.88
VPIP SB: 31.74
PFR SB: 5.11

Three Sigma 02-09-2006 10:16 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes: 25NL
6-max:
Hands played: 11,000
VPIP: 28%
VPIP from SB: 51%
Folded SB to steal: 85%
Folded BB to steal: 80%
Att. to steal blinds: 20%
Won $ WSF: 40%
PTBB/100: 6.6
Went to SD: 25%
Won $ at SD: 51%
PFR: 11%

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.76
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.48
Aggression Factor River: 2.00
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 2.96
Folded to River Bet: 65%
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.50%

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 41BB
Average Hrs. / Session: 0.67

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 31%
PFR Button: 18%
VPIP 1: 24%
PFR 1: 11%
VPIP 2: 21%
PFR 2: 9%
VPIP 3: 22%
PFR 3: 9%
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 9%
PFR BB: 15%
VPIP SB: 10%
PFR SB: 50%

For the record, from www.svenskpoker.com:

Played hands 11000
BB/100 6.64
Standard Deviation BB/100 41.0
Confidence Interval 94%

I qualify as a winner, but just barely. This is my first 11K hands ever for real money -- I hope to improve.
The total rake is almost the same as my winnings.

Maximum BB/100: 13.99
Minimum BB/100: -0.71

tannenj 02-09-2006 11:00 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: 25 NL
6-max or full ring: full ring
Hands played: 4,523
VPIP: 22.51
VPIP from SB: 31.68
Folded SB to steal: 88.89
Folded BB to steal: 74.07
Att. to steal blinds: 49.41
Won $ WSF: 38.12
PTBB/100: 17.63
Went to SD: 17.11
Won $ at SD: 51.43
PFR: 13.00

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 14.27
Aggression Factor Turn: 6.80
Aggression Factor River: 6.93
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 10.46
Folded to River Bet: 84.75
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.65

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 48.4576 PTBB
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.85

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 34.65
PFR Button: 23.17
VPIP 1: 30.34
PFR 1: 18.16
VPIP 2: 24.03
PFR 2: 13.65
VPIP 3: 20.87
PFR 3: 11.33
VPIP 4: 17.05
PFR 4: 10.53
VPIP 5: 17.26
PFR 5: 11.27
VPIP 6: 15.43
PFR 6: 10.74
VPIP 7: 17.62
PFR 7: 11.92
VPIP BB: 11.93
PFR BB: 7.16
VPIP SB: 31.68
PFR SB: 11.29

[/ QUOTE ]

notes-

-94% confidence interval for win rate according to svenspoker.com -- Minimum BB/100 = 4.08, Maximum BB/100 = 31.18

-over last 2,365 hands -- vpip: 24.74, pfr: 15.05, total postflop aggro: 11.36

quarkncover 02-10-2006 01:17 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
These are my Party 25NL 6-max Stats only

All advice appreciated!

General Info.
Stakes: 25NL
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 14,147
VPIP: 18.58
VPIP from SB: 24.89
Folded SB to steal: 88.33
Folded BB to steal: 78.40
Att. to steal blinds: 24.21
Won $ WSF: 35.54
PTBB/100: 5.47
Went to SD: 20.51
Won $ at SD: 49.45
PFR: 10.84

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 4.14 (is this way too high_?)
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.25
Aggression Factor River: 1.31
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 2.89
Folded to River Bet: 61.79%
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.41

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 57.58 (WHOA)
Average Hrs. / Session: .43

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 24.6
PFR Button: 16.17
VPIP 1: 19.61
PFR 1: 15.65
VPIP 2: 14.29
PFR 2: 12.06
VPIP 3: 11.6
PFR 3: 9.91
VPIP BB: 11.41
PFR BB: .07
VPIP SB: 24.89
PFR SB: 3.06

AZplaya 02-10-2006 01:49 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: $25
6-max or full ring: full ring
Hands played: 8,398
VPIP: 26.89
VPIP from SB: 42.41
Folded SB to steal: 66.67
Folded BB to steal: 60.61
Att. to steal blinds: 32.49
Won $ WSF: 29.38
PTBB/100: 12.31
Went to SD: 19.08
Won $ at SD: 52.17
PFR: 7.19

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.02
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.05
Aggression Factor River:1.94
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 2.92
Folded to River Bet: 65.82
Check-raise % of possible actions:.48

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 53.45
Average Hrs. / Session: .63

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 28.81
PFR Button: 5.89
VPIP 1: 28.52
PFR 1: 7.56
VPIP 2: 27.10
PFR 2:7.74
VPIP 3: 27.35
PFR 3: 9.85
VPIP 4: 24.33
PFR 4: 9.22
VPIP 5: 27.28
PFR 5: 9.25
VPIP 6: 21.96
PFR 6: 8.28
VPIP 7: 28.27
PFR 7: 9.89
VPIP BB: 15.22
PFR BB: 2.81
VPIP SB: 42.39
PFR SB: 5.66


[/ QUOTE ]

ticks 02-10-2006 09:36 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]


All advice appreciated!

6-max or full ring: 6-max

VPIP: 18.58


[/ QUOTE ]

Loosen up, baby.

ChipStorm 02-10-2006 09:40 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
All right, at 94%, I barely miss the on the full range, from -0.27 to 8.43 PTBB/100. But at 92%, I'm solid! So exclude me if you must but here are the numbers:

General Info.
Stakes: $25
6-max or full ring: Full
Hands played: 29,463
VPIP: 18.35%
VPIP from SB: 21.07%
Folded SB to steal: 85.71%
Folded BB to steal: 74.03%
Att. to steal blinds: 8.53%
Won $ WSF: 35.85%
PTBB/100: 4.08
Went to SD: 23.73%
Won $ at SD: 54.63%
PFR: 4.04%

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 1.56
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.18
Aggression Factor River: 1.33
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 1.40
Folded to River Bet: 66.07%
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.41%

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 39.7 PTBB
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.03

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 28.77%
PFR Button: 6.30%
VPIP 1: 21.81%
PFR 1: 5.70%
VPIP 2: 22.85%
PFR 2: 6.37%
VPIP 3: 16.33%
PFR 3: 4.00%
VPIP 4: 17.59%
PFR 4: 4.12%
VPIP 5: 15.51%
PFR 5: 3.02%
VPIP 6: 14.14%
PFR 6: 2.55%
VPIP 7: 13.87%
PFR 7: 1.09%
VPIP BB: 8.14%
PFR BB: 2.36%
VPIP SB: 21.07% (Yikes)
PFR SB: 2.83%

Pokey 02-14-2006 09:53 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
Statistics so far:

25NL full ring: 8 players
25NL 6-max: 5 players
50NL full ring: 0 players
50NL 6-max: 1 player
100NL full ring: 0 players
100NL 6-max: 1 player

Mods suggesting I do this survey: 1 (*cough*)
Mods giving me their data for the survey: 0

In computer programming, there's a phrase "GIGO" that stands for Garbage In / Garbage Out. It means that you can't get good results without good input. Without MUCH more data, I won't be able to draw any interesting conclusions, and then we'll have nothing. If you're shy about sending your numbers around, go ahead and PM them to me -- I promise not to send them to anybody else with your identifying information attached.

ticks 02-16-2006 09:54 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
yr sample size is too small,
come back when you have like 200k responses, n00b!




Seriously, keep up the good work Pokey.
I'll bump this thread if you don't.

zaphod 02-16-2006 10:07 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
Here are my stats. I think the worst part here is my SB numbers. My VPIP there is too high.

General Info.
Stakes:100NL
6-max or full ring:6 max
Hands played:13775
VPIP:32,33
VPIP from SB:53,37
Folded SB to steal:84,35
Folded BB to steal:60,80
Att. to steal blinds:25,18
Won $ WSF:34,89
PTBB/100:8,14
Went to SD:22,91
Won $ at SD:53,36
PFR:10,98

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop:3,18
Aggression Factor Turn:1,71
Aggression Factor River:1,26
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers):2,31
Folded to River Bet:62,48
Check-raise % of possible actions:0,94

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands:43,5022
Average Hrs. / Session:0,87

Position Stats
VPIP Button:37,79
PFR Button:20,19
VPIP 1: 29,64
PFR 1: 14,74
VPIP 2: 23,89
PFR 2: 10,37
VPIP 3: 21,50
PFR 3: 6,92
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 19,82
PFR BB: 5,79
VPIP SB: 53,37
PFR SB: 6,26

kitaristi0 02-17-2006 06:43 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think the worst part here is my SB numbers. My VPIP there is too high.

[/ QUOTE ]

IMO definitely. I just always remind myself that I'm going to be in the worst possible position for the rest of the hand, and even the good pot/implied odds can't make up for that.

Johan L 02-18-2006 11:56 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
I use a program called pokeroffice, it is similar.

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/6...tats50k6hn.jpg

wooly_chicken 02-18-2006 01:20 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]


General Info.
Stakes:25NL
6-max or full ring:6 max
Hands played:9793
VPIP:23.4
VPIP from SB:36.41
Folded SB to steal:84.51
Folded BB to steal:73.64
Att. to steal blinds:15.06
Won $ WSF:35.78
PTBB/100:15.23
Went to SD:24.07
Won $ at SD:49.93
PFR:7.45

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop:3,39
Aggression Factor Turn:2.25
Aggression Factor River:1.55
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers):2.64
Folded to River Bet:68.73
Check-raise % of possible actions:0.49



Position Stats
VPIP Button:24.35
PFR Button:9.88
VPIP 1: 22.57
PFR 1: 10.11
VPIP 2: 23.37
PFR 2: 9.46
VPIP 3: 20.62
PFR 3: 7.6

VPIP BB: 11.36
PFR BB: 3.82
VPIP SB: 36.41
PFR SB: 4.77

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ticks 02-19-2006 08:26 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
bump

dp13368 02-19-2006 01:26 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
I was going to get a 20k hand checkup from SSNL, so if you guys see anything out of the ordinary please let me know. I would appreciate it.

[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: NL50
6-max or full ring: Full Ring
Hands played: 17,010
VPIP: 17.79%
VPIP from SB: 26.86%
Folded SB to steal: 82.47%
Folded BB to steal: 79.31%
Att. to steal blinds: 11.35%
Won $ WSF: 31.9%
PTBB/100: 3.19bb/100
Went to SD: 24.87%
Won $ at SD: 55.54%
PFR: 4.84%

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 1.58
Aggression Factor Turn: .91
Aggression Factor River: 1.01
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers):
Folded to River Bet: 60.05%
Check-raise % of possible actions: .8

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 41.34
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.73

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 20.89
PFR Button: 5.49
VPIP 1: 19.12
PFR 1: 5.8
VPIP 2: 17.39
PFR 2: 6.49
VPIP 3: 18.36
PFR 3: 5.41
VPIP 4: 16.94
PFR 4: 5.24
VPIP 5: 17.03
PFR 5: 4.74
VPIP 6: 15.62
PFR 6: 4.21
VPIP 7: 15.83
PFR 7: 5.12
VPIP BB: 7.65
PFR BB: 2.65
VPIP SB: 25.83
PFR SB: 2.87


[/ QUOTE ]

GrinningBuddha 02-19-2006 04:06 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: NL25 (Party/Stars)
6-max or full ring: Full
Hands played: 7,720
VPIP: 17.06%
VPIP from SB: 31.95%
Folded SB to steal: 100% (17/17)
Folded BB to steal: 57.14% (12/21)
Att. to steal blinds: 10.73%
Won $ WSF: 26.33%
PTBB/100: 14.99
Went to SD: 18.0%
Won $ at SD: 55.56%
PFR: 4.09%

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 1.89
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.60
Aggression Factor River: 1.26
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 1.70
Folded to River Bet: 65.73%
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.07%

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 38.74
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.06

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 22.67
PFR Button: 5.88
VPIP 1: 18.26
PFR 1: 5.12
VPIP 2: 16.22
PFR 2: 6.37
VPIP 3: 14.92
PFR 3: 5.55
VPIP 4: 13.18
PFR 4: 3.26
VPIP 5: 11.62
PFR 5: 4.94
VPIP 6: 11.03
PFR 6: 3.25
VPIP 7: 7.86
PFR 7: 1.75
VPIP BB: 12.14
PFR BB: 2.26
VPIP SB: 31.92
PFR SB: 1.74

[/ QUOTE ]

darkcore 02-21-2006 05:59 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
General Info.
Stakes: nl $50
6-max or full ring: full ring
Hands played: 30,761
VPIP: 10.59
VPIP from SB: 21.39
Folded SB to steal: 94.05
Folded BB to steal: 86.67
Att. to steal blinds: 8.06
Won $ WSF: 28.59
PTBB/100: 4.99
Went to SD: 18.94
Won $ at SD: 53.55
PFR: 3.48

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 4.42
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.95
Aggression Factor River: 2.13
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 3.45
Folded to River Bet: 72.35
Check-raise % of possible actions: 0.79

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 38.84
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.3

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 11.52
PFR Button: 4.84
VPIP 1: 10.45
PFR 1: 4.44
VPIP 2: 10.09
PFR 2: 4.68
VPIP 3: 9.23
PFR 3: 3.57
VPIP 4: 9.51
PFR 4: 4.06
VPIP 5: 9.36
PFR 5: 2.98
VPIP 6: 8.7
PFR 6: 2.1
VPIP 7: 9.3
PFR 7: 1.83
VPIP BB: 5.63
PFR BB: 2.27
VPIP SB: 21.39
PFR SB: 3.00

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scrapperdog 02-21-2006 06:29 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
I will post em if people will comment on leaks, otherwise it is too much work.

ticks 02-21-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I will post em if people will comment on leaks, otherwise it is too much work.

[/ QUOTE ]

Lazy [censored].
I'll look at it.

scrapperdog 02-21-2006 08:17 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
Ok but I have to brace myself to get ready for the rotten tomatoes being thown.

scrapperdog 02-21-2006 08:29 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6656/ptstats8pp.jpg

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/950...onstats7qk.jpg

ticks 02-21-2006 08:56 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
You really are a lazy [censored]!
You expect Pokey to type it up for you?!
Jeez...

Nice winrate, so you cant be doing too much wrong.
Steal a lot more blinds.
Your W$AtSD is a tad high - maybe you are missing some value bets on the river?
You position stats dont add up -
why is your VPIP the same UTG+1 as on the button,
when the number of hands is totally different?
I'll trust the number of hands though, and say I see nothing wrong.

scrapperdog 02-21-2006 09:05 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
I think the position stats are messed up because I play a lot in a game where the big blind and small blind are the same amount. From what I can tell this messes with pokertracker, cant think of any other reason for it.

I will take your thoughts about the river value bets into consideration. I posted my stats when I first got PT at about 20K hands and my agression was only like 1.26 so I have cranked it up a little... maybe I should crank it up again.

ticks 02-21-2006 09:10 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
You should seriously steal the blinds A LOT more as well.
I play 6-max and steal 30% of the time.
I'm not sure whats a good number for full,
but 3,66% cant be right.

Cormia 02-21-2006 01:03 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes: $50 NL
6-max or full ring: 6-Max
Hands played: 24,371
VPIP: 22.81
VPIP from SB: 35.99
Folded SB to steal: 85.11
Folded BB to steal: 77.45
Att. to steal blinds: 22.68
Won $ WSF: 35.73
PTBB/100: 4.11
Went to SD: 22.27
Won $ at SD: 49.87
PFR: 10.35

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.46
Aggression Factor Turn: 1.60
Aggression Factor River: 1.33
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 2.36
Folded to River Bet: 64.73
Check-raise % of possible actions: .54

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 41.69
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.39

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 30.05
PFR Button: 15.82
VPIP 1: 22.44
PFR 1: 13.95
VPIP 2: 16.37
PFR 2: 9.78
VPIP 3: 12.04
PFR 3: 8.41
VPIP BB: 12.69
PFR BB: 6.34
VPIP SB: 35.99
PFR SB: 7.06

AncientPC 02-22-2006 02:38 AM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
General Info.
Stakes: NL25
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 2200
VPIP: 27.95
VPIP from SB: 44.37
Folded SB to steal: 67.31
Folded BB to steal: 68.00
Att. to steal blinds: 27.89
Won $ WSF: 39.73
PTBB/100: 13.01
Went to SD: 22.04
Won $ at SD: 47.62
PFR: 15.32

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.91
Aggression Factor Turn: 2.70
Aggression Factor River: 2.03
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 3.13
Folded to River Bet: 65.82
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.36

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 55.00
Average Hrs. / Session: 0.87

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 27.60
PFR Button: 23.53
VPIP 1: 29.37
PFR 1: 22.03
VPIP 2: 18.81
PFR 2: 11.55
VPIP 3: 21.59
PFR 3: 8.52
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 19.32
PFR BB: 10.23
VPIP SB: 44.37
PFR SB: 11.49
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

General Info.
Stakes: NL50
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 4848
VPIP: 38.33
VPIP from SB: 57.66
Folded SB to steal: 68.45
Folded BB to steal: 67.64
Att. to steal blinds: 36.48
Won $ WSF: 41.02
PTBB/100: 20.27
Went to SD: 23.72
Won $ at SD: 53.06
PFR: 21.22

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 4.54
Aggression Factor Turn: 3.05
Aggression Factor River: 3.18
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 3.82
Folded to River Bet: 69.82
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.36

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 49.61
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.46

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 35.64
PFR Button: 26.07
VPIP 1: 29.94
PFR 1: 20.96
VPIP 2: 23.00
PFR 2: 10.53
VPIP 3: 23.15
PFR 3: 9.24
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 30.69
PFR BB: 19.18
VPIP SB: 57.66
PFR SB: 27.09
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

General Info.
Stakes: NL100
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 40051
VPIP: 24.83
VPIP from SB: 42.02
Folded SB to steal: 80.78
Folded BB to steal: 69.67
Att. to steal blinds: 14.12
Won $ WSF: 36.34
PTBB/100: 5.49
Went to SD: 21.09
Won $ at SD: 48.16
PFR: 9.04

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.81
Aggression Factor Turn: 3.24
Aggression Factor River: 3.97
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 3.64
Folded to River Bet: 78.21
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.33

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 46.32
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.28

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 23.69
PFR Button: 11.33
VPIP 1: 21.48
PFR 1: 10.95
VPIP 2: 23.25
PFR 2: 8.44
VPIP 3: 20.57
PFR 3: 7.10
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 16.49
PFR BB: 7.46
VPIP SB: 41.93
PFR SB: 7.93
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

General Info.
Stakes: NL200
6-max or full ring: 6-max
Hands played: 29598
VPIP: 25.03
VPIP from SB: 43.21
Folded SB to steal: 81.61
Folded BB to steal: 64.73
Att. to steal blinds: 15.52
Won $ WSF: 42.12
PTBB/100: 6.2
Went to SD: 21.84
Won $ at SD: 54.68
PFR: 9.97

General Info. / More Detail
Aggression Factor Flop: 3.99
Aggression Factor Turn: 3.04
Aggression Factor River: 3.04
Total Aggression Factor (not including preflop numbers): 3.51
Folded to River Bet: 75.35
Check-raise % of possible actions: 1.33

Session Notes / More Detail
Standard Deviation / 100 Hands: 41.4
Average Hrs. / Session: 1.62

Position Stats
VPIP Button: 23.87
PFR Button: 13.03
VPIP 1: 22.77
PFR 1: 11.76
VPIP 2: 21.23
PFR 2: 9.33
VPIP 3: 19.04
PFR 3: 7.99
VPIP 4:
PFR 4:
VPIP 5:
PFR 5:
VPIP 6:
PFR 6:
VPIP 7:
PFR 7:
VPIP BB: 17.23
PFR BB: 8.86
VPIP SB: 43.21
PFR SB: 8.01
__________________________________________________ ______________________________

NL100 and NL200 numbers are from last year. I took a 6 month break before playing poker again starting this month at NL25. I just realised my NL50 hourly rate is a 50% more than my NL100 and NL200 hourly rates with less variance as well. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I doubt it may be because I'm more comfortable on the NL50 tables, but rather I care less so I tend to LAG it up a lot. Some of my daily PT stats are 45/25/4.

Three Sigma 03-01-2006 04:16 PM

Re: Voluntary statistics survey.
 
I'm hoping to see some numbers from some of our more respected and prolific posters. Any way we can harass you guys into showing some data?


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