aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

you decide bbv

Full Tilt Poker Game #1546752624: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:09:42 ET - 2007/01/06
Seat 1: JWiggles ($124,494.50)
Seat 3: sbrugby ($90,681)
sbrugby posts the small blind of $200
JWiggles posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
sbrugby raises to $1,200
JWiggles raises to $4,200
sbrugby has 15 seconds left to act
sbrugby raises to $14,400
JWiggles calls $10,200
*** FLOP *** [7h Qc 2c]
JWiggles checks
sbrugby has 15 seconds left to act
sbrugby bets $18,000
JWiggles calls $18,000
*** TURN *** [7h Qc 2c] [9s]
JWiggles bets $64,800
sbrugby: thanks
sbrugby calls $58,281, and is all in
JWiggles shows [Jh Ah]
sbrugby shows [9c 9d]
Uncalled bet of $6,519 returned to JWiggles
*** RIVER *** [7h Qc 2c 9s] [Ks]
JWiggles shows Ace King high
sbrugby shows three of a kind, Nines
sbrugby wins the pot ($181,361.50) with three of a kind, Nines


this struck me as particularly classless. always a chance that there is a lot of background here, and that it was provoked and (in some eyes) deserved. but that is just speculation, and it may have been completely unprovoked.

then again he also may just be an enormous douchebag like many have assumed.

what think you, bbv?

*disclaimer: i am immensely jealous of aba's success, ability, and bankroll.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

'always a chance that there is a lot of background here, and that it was provoked and (in some eyes) deserved.'

this seems most likely to me. i don't know aba or anything but he always seemed like a nice guy from what he posts on here.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

without being provoked by jwiggles, I think its a big douchebag move

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

if saying thanks in the chat once before stacking some retarded bluff makes you a scumbag, well im sure most of us are scum of the earth. maybe he just doesnt like the guy?

Aba is a pimp.

/off his nuts.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

even if there was no background, i think it takes more than one small comment one time to qualify anyone as an enormous douchebag.

Jwiggles is just throwing money at him, A7o<KK AIPF for 168k pot just now.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

I say ......................

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

who cares he has lots of money

man with gold makes the rules

havent you seen aladdin?

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

Tons of ppl have done [censored] like this to someone they hated. Im sure he just didnt like the guy. Just cuz it was for more money does not make it worse. Who cares about wiggles.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

I remember posting a hand a couple months back where it looked like Aba slowrolled Spirit Rock in the chat window with middle set that i thought was pretty classless. I couldn't be sure though. Aba always seemed pretty cordial at the tables though, and nothing but a nice guy on here, so i prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

ae6,

i agree. this discussion is not whether or not he is a douchebag, but rather a scumbag.

i mean, i have done worse myself in the past, so i guess i am a scumbag myself. but it was always against an arch-enemy and we were getting into it.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

There is history I am sure.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

I personally could care less what he says in chats as long as he stops in here from time to time and blesses us with graphs and charts and screenshots that make us cream our shorts.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

Trying to tilt an already crazy player is my guess- this is assholic but I guess you dont play poker to mkae friends

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

There prolly is some background here or in the heat of the moment of an intense hu game he just happened to say something thats not to cool. Aba has done a couple of Q & A posts on 2+2 and has even answered some of my small stakes posts on another forum and always came across as a good guy.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

He sucks at Omaha. Why does Casey call the turn, duuh??? You just wanna give him 30k on the river for no reason??

Dealer: Hand #1547001273
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat posts the small blind of $200
Dealer: sbrugby posts the big blind of $400
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat raises to $1,200
Dealer: sbrugby calls $800
Dealer: The flop is [2c Jc Qd]
YoungBuckBzn (Observer): free rolls are for gypsies
Dealer: sbrugby checks
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat bets $2,400
VinZinO (Observer): whats FTP?
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $9,600
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat calls $7,200
Dealer: The turn is [6d]
GimmickAccount (Observer): gypsies that run 0 into $$$$$$$?
X TH X (Observer): Full Tilt Points?
Dealer: sbrugby bets $21,600
GimmickAccount (Observer): full tilted poker
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat calls $21,600
Dealer: The river is [4d]
Wyndyn-Guyle (Observer): g
Dealer: sbrugby has 15 seconds left to act
Danichi (Observer): sbrugby didn't hit the flush [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Danichi (Observer): Gonna lose this big pot.
X TH X (Observer): Gimmick, do you have a roll on this site?
YoungBuckBzn (Observer): im my life ive only heard of 1 or 2 people that
make money out of freerolls
Dealer: sbrugby bets $64,800
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat calls $30,079, and is all in
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $34,721 returned to sbrugby
Dealer: sbrugby shows three of a kind, Jacks
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat shows a flush, King high
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat wins the pot ($124,957.50) with a flush, King high

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

I think scumbag is a pretty harsh word for this situation. If this constitutes somebody as a scumbag, pretty much every professional athlete on the planet is a scumbag. heat of battle buddy, makes you say things you wouldn't normally say.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

meh, aba has answered to a few of my posts in the past, and he seemed really nice when he did it - so in my limited experience, i don't think this was unprovoked.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

man who cares? not that big of a deal

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

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Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

gusy look at what villain felted

villain is obviously tilting

aba is obviously fuel to the fire

pretty funny hand

add to that wtfc?

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Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

for the record 'scumbag' is just hyperbole.

like i said it was likely provoked, and i myself have done worse, so i am not one to judge.

it just seemed a bit bizarre, as he does try to come off as such a nice guy on here.

i would be just as surprised if ivey, reese, or any other consummate professional did this.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

snagglepuss,

my apologies. douchebag is clearly on an entirely different plane than scumbag.


edit: holla, i'm an old hand

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

This is the dumbest thread ever.

jwiggles was playing donk-aggressive, shoving with any two overs repeatedly... Aba was waiting for the perfect spot to call him.

ALSO, Jwiggles kept sucking out on Aba (yes Aba ran bad for a while) after Aba called bs on some of Jwiggle's all-in's, so I think Aba was glad that his opponent was finally drawing dead for once.

I thought it was hilarious.

Aba's the man.

not scumbag
 

I'm sure everyone here has done worse, but we are not under so much scrutiny.

Taking account possiblity of history and heat of battle: scumbag? um, no.

I thought this thread was going to be about aba20 ripping off innocent people or something like that. BBV shouldn't be such babies. This thread is going to make aba (awesome) look bad for something so trivial.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

And wiggles image pays off.

Full Tilt Poker Game #1547038673: Table Halbert (heads up) - $300/$600 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:55:15 ET - 2007/01/06
Seat 1: sbrugby ($118,696)
Seat 2: JWiggles ($109,896)
sbrugby posts the small blind of $300
JWiggles posts the big blind of $600
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
sbrugby raises to $1,800
JWiggles calls $1,200
*** FLOP *** [5c As Jc]
JWiggles checks
sbrugby bets $3,200
JWiggles raises to $7,800
sbrugby calls $4,600
*** TURN *** [5c As Jc] [7c]
JWiggles bets $19,200
sbrugby has 15 seconds left to act
sbrugby raises to $68,000
JWiggles raises to $100,296, and is all in
sbrugby calls $32,296
JWiggles shows [6c 9c]
sbrugby shows [7s Ah]
*** RIVER *** [5c As Jc 7c] [2c]
JWiggles shows a flush, Jack high
sbrugby shows two pair, Aces and Sevens
JWiggles wins the pot ($219,791.50) with a flush, Jack high
sbrugby adds $51,200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $219,792 | Rake $0.50
Board: [5c As Jc 7c 2c]
Seat 1: sbrugby (small blind) showed [7s Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 2: JWiggles (big blind) showed [6c 9c] and won ($219,791.50) with a flush, Jack high

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

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This is the dumbest thread ever.

jwiggles was playing donk-aggressive, shoving with any two overs repeatedly... Aba was waiting for the perfect spot to call him.

ALSO, Jwiggles kept sucking out on Aba (yes Aba ran bad for a while) after Aba called bs on some of Jwiggle's all-in's, so I think Aba was glad that his opponent was finally drawing dead for once.

I thought it was hilarious.

Aba's the man.

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This hand would make Gandhi angry:

Full Tilt Poker Game #1546650093: Table Canfield (6 max) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:53:20 ET - 2007/01/06
Seat 1: JWiggles ($45,599)
Seat 3: sbrugby ($169,581.50)
sbrugby posts the small blind of $200
JWiggles posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
sbrugby raises to $1,200
JWiggles raises to $3,600
sbrugby calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [8s 6h 9d]
JWiggles bets $7,200
sbrugby raises to $15,000
JWiggles raises to $22,800
sbrugby raises to $75,600
JWiggles calls $19,199, and is all in
sbrugby shows [9c Kd]
JWiggles shows [Qc Jd]
Uncalled bet of $33,601 returned to sbrugby
*** TURN *** [8s 6h 9d] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [8s 6h 9d Tc] [6s]
sbrugby shows two pair, Nines and Sixes
JWiggles shows a straight, Queen high
JWiggles wins the pot ($91,197.50) with a straight, Queen high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $91,198 | Rake $0.50
Board: [8s 6h 9d Tc 6s]
Seat 1: JWiggles (big blind) showed [Qc Jd] and won ($91,197.50) with a straight, Queen high
Seat 3: sbrugby (small blind) showed [9c Kd] and lost with two pair, Nines and Sixes

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

Yeah wow making a slightly smartass comment when an idiot is shipping a huge pot your way really is the scummiest of scumbag things to do. You hs game railtards need to get a life, seriously.


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Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

who cares its aba.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

There was a pot last night where Jwiggles slowrolled komijendo or kojimendo (whichever is the proper spelling). I dont have any evidence they are related, but it is not that farfetched that maybe aba saw this and felt inclined to offer jwiggles a dose of his own medicine

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

yeah snag this is a really unnecessary thread...saying thanks when playing high stakes HU like that is such a bad thing to do? certainly an assholish thing but nothing really bad and certainly not worth an entire thread.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

Who cares, he probably just insulted a fish to try and get him to stick around out of injured pride. I'd make a one-liner jerk comment for that much money, I'm sure everyone here would too.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

from the title of the thread i would have thought he kicked an old lady down the stairs or something

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

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Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

I would act like a scumbag if it got my opponent to shove all in pre flop at 300/600 for 80kish w. A7o

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

calling out aba?

what a bad thread

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

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man who cares? not that big of a deal

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Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

Obviously the Nuremberg trials were closed 60 years too early.

/sarcasm

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

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He sucks at Omaha. Why does Casey call the turn, duuh??? You just wanna give him 30k on the river for no reason??

Dealer: Hand #1547001273
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat posts the small blind of $200
Dealer: sbrugby posts the big blind of $400
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat raises to $1,200
Dealer: sbrugby calls $800
Dealer: The flop is [2c Jc Qd]
YoungBuckBzn (Observer): free rolls are for gypsies
Dealer: sbrugby checks
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat bets $2,400
VinZinO (Observer): whats FTP?
Dealer: sbrugby raises to $9,600
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat calls $7,200
Dealer: The turn is [6d]
GimmickAccount (Observer): gypsies that run 0 into $$$$$$$?
X TH X (Observer): Full Tilt Points?
Dealer: sbrugby bets $21,600
GimmickAccount (Observer): full tilted poker
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat calls $21,600
Dealer: The river is [4d]
Wyndyn-Guyle (Observer): g
Dealer: sbrugby has 15 seconds left to act
Danichi (Observer): sbrugby didn't hit the flush [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Danichi (Observer): Gonna lose this big pot.
X TH X (Observer): Gimmick, do you have a roll on this site?
YoungBuckBzn (Observer): im my life ive only heard of 1 or 2 people that
make money out of freerolls
Dealer: sbrugby bets $64,800
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat calls $30,079, and is all in
Dealer: Uncalled bet of $34,721 returned to sbrugby
Dealer: sbrugby shows three of a kind, Jacks
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat shows a flush, King high
Dealer: CaseyAtTheBat wins the pot ($124,957.50) with a flush, King high

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Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] you non-haters are a bunch lords, clearly.

nation,

i will consult you in the future as to what constitutes a worthy thread. in bbv. thanks!

requin,

aba actually quit him this match, and wiggles seemed pretty pissed about it, claiming he couldnt play in the next few days because of a business trip. i believe wiggles was pissed because rugby asked for the game, then quit him when he started losing without any headsup.

but hey, it is all cool to say "thanks" before calling someone's jam with the nuts, because it is rugby! ITS ALL COOL BABY

p.s. who cares.

Re: aba20/sbrugby brian townsend = scumbag?
 

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I would act like a scumbag if it got my opponent to shove all in pre flop at 300/600 for 80kish w. A7o

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