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Entity 01-05-2007 07:46 AM

Quick checkup - postflop action
 
These are all from today, most come from HU or 3-handed sessions though. The K7hh hand where I cap the turn and get checkraised on the river is from a full game and is the only hand I remember against a reasonable (29/25/3) but very aggressive opponent. The 9h7h flush was vs a 76/42/3 guy.

These are all from today, most come from HU or 3-handed sessions though. The K7hh hand where I cap the turn and get checkraised on the river is from a full game and is the only hand I remember against a reasonable (29/25/3) but very aggressive opponent. The 9h7h flush was vs a 76/42/3 guy.


******* Hand 1 ********


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $25/$50
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 10.5BB


******* Hand 2 ********


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $25/$50
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (12BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14BB


******* Hand 3 ********


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $15/$30
3 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.67SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12.33BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 18.33BB


******* Hand 4 ********


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $15/$30
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (13BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 17BB


******* Hand 5 ********


Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $15/$30
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12BB


******* Hand 6 ********


Limit: $15/$30
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.67SB, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6.33BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14.33BB

******* Hand 7 ********

Limit: $25/$50
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 19BB


MAxx 01-05-2007 09:32 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
i looked at first three and they looked good to me

Evigt_Drabbad 01-05-2007 09:37 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
too many hands imo [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

sharpie 01-05-2007 10:28 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
Looks pretty good to me, I would've led out the 2nd hand on the turn just in case it gets checked through or I get to 3 bet.

wackjob 01-05-2007 01:58 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
all looks pretty standard.

Veron 01-05-2007 03:59 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
I can't find anything unreasonable either. Running bad?

Evigt_Drabbad 01-05-2007 04:40 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
#1 i play it the same
#2 i bet turn and take it from there
#3 i like a lead on river
#4 i dont cap turn
#5 i play it the same
#6 i dont cap river
#7 i dont cap river

DING-DONG YO 01-05-2007 04:52 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
Without reads my thoughts are:

Hand 3 - I would b/c the river. I don't like putting more than 2 bets in here.

Hand 4 - I'm calling down from the turn 3bet

Hand 6 - I'm not capping the river

Others look good

milesdyson 01-05-2007 07:51 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
I think checking the river in hand 3 is better than betting. Whether or not to raise is the point of debate for me. There are 8 nut flush combos... I'm not going to count the other combos of lesser flushes that he would raise OTB 3-handed, but there probably aren't enough to go for the check raise (win 2, lose 3). Bet/calling after the turn cap wins 1 and loses 2, since I highly doubt he raises you again with the third nuts or less.

Entity 01-05-2007 07:58 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think checking the river in hand 3 is better than betting. Whether or not to raise is the point of debate for me. There are 8 nut flush combos... I'm not going to count the other combos of lesser flushes that he would raise OTB 3-handed, but there probably aren't enough to go for the check raise (win 2, lose 3). Bet/calling after the turn cap wins 1 and loses 2, since I highly doubt he raises you again with the third nuts or less.

[/ QUOTE ]

I should have check-called there IMO. I think it's close because he might raise T8dd or J8dd or AdAx, but I think I should play it a bit more cautiously.

Rob

Victor 01-05-2007 09:50 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
hand 1: i cf the flop and play the river the same.

hand 2: i really want to raise the river vs this dude.

hand 3: depends on the player. i like it vs a retard but would just call the river vs a good player.

hand 4: usually play the same. sometimes i get scared and just call down after 3bet esp if player is decent.

hand 5: again i cap vs retards and just call vs a good player.

hand 6: same as last 3.

hand 7: shockingly, like the others, i put the extra bet in vs retards but not smart players.

Victor 01-05-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
"Hand 3 - I would b/c the river. I don't like putting more than 2 bets in here."

b/c loses 2 and wins one.

cr/c lose 3 and wins 2.

Vehn 01-06-2007 09:09 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
I like them all v much, only thing I would do different is probably b/c hand 3 instead of c/r.

siegfriedandroy 01-06-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
hand 2: i think i'd bet the turn, hoping to 3bet, since villain's flop check, given his stats, may well indicate a set or tptk, etc. also given his stats, id cap the riv.


hope you won all, or at least most of these- that's a lot of red flushes, and a lot of big betz!

MacGuyV 01-07-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
[ QUOTE ]
Looks pretty good to me, I would've led out the 2nd hand on the turn

[/ QUOTE ]

Leader 01-07-2007 03:04 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
I'd call the 3-bet on the river in the last hand besides that every looks fine.

Will. 01-07-2007 04:15 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
hand 2, im raising that river
hand 3, im capping the river
hand 4, 3-betting the flop, the way u played it, i think this looks about right, his river play is soooo gay tho.

Will. 01-07-2007 04:16 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'd call the 3-bet on the river in the last hand besides that every looks fine.

[/ QUOTE ]dude, are u putting him on 4 of a kind, Js full, or Ks full?

milesdyson 01-07-2007 08:37 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
[ QUOTE ]
hand 3, im capping the river

[/ QUOTE ]
I think you lose 75% of that last bet, minimum.

[ QUOTE ]
hand 4, 3-betting the flop, the way u played it, i think this looks about right, his river play is soooo gay tho.

[/ QUOTE ]
Why is his river play bad? If you say his play is bad, what about Entity's play in the 3rd hand?

MaverickUSC 01-07-2007 10:10 AM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
All look fine. Any discussion is marginal IMHO.

Devo

Will. 01-07-2007 02:25 PM

Re: Quick checkup - postflop action
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
hand 3, im capping the river

[/ QUOTE ]
I think you lose 75% of that last bet, minimum.

[ QUOTE ]
hand 4, 3-betting the flop, the way u played it, i think this looks about right, his river play is soooo gay tho.

[/ QUOTE ]
Why is his river play bad? If you say his play is bad, what about Entity's play in the 3rd hand?

[/ QUOTE ]i actually agree with that when i take a look back at the hand, i guess i originally thought entity raised pf and the other guy called.
and in hand 4, im not calling villain's play bad, im just calling it gay, cuz it makes me hate our hand.


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