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Redskins won the toss and are starting at the 26.

Giants are without Strahan and Shockey. I don't feel confident for them tonight but they are playing for their lives.

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Lol at fumoolments. Big DT ran the ball 60 yards and died at the end, James Thrash caught him.

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lolz

I'd watch the game, but I'm playing in a 4/180 now.

Go Giants!

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I don't see why the guy that went to block Campbell (I assume) didn't give him a shout to lateral it. But meh, it's amusing regardless.

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So Betts is the best RB in the league right?

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lol reverse option touchdownaments

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Wow, that was pathetic. The Redskins have dominated the game thus far, just that fumble is the only reason that its not 14-0.

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So Betts is the best RB in the league right?

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Baldinger was practically fellating him last week when the 'Skins played.

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I'm a Giant fan, and I seriously hope they lose this game. I can't take another week of watching this team.

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this game is fairly entertaining - lol tiki barber's [censored] is going to be sore from the announcers throating it

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lol at 3rd down interference

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Whitfield looks so ineffective against every DE he goes up against.

What was that Eli? That was horrendous.

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Whitfield looks so ineffective against every DE he goes up against.

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well there you go

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It's time for Manning to drive down the field here. 97 yard drive, I'm feeling it.

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is it just me, or have teams started to pass on 1st, run on 2nd, and leave themselves 3rd and 6 much more often than in years past

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wow that's so much interference

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Well if you pass on first down and it's incomplete you almost have to run it on 2nd.

On that 2nd down play it was pass interference without question. Is that Bill Lovett back there officiating? If he is he should never be allowed to do another Giants game.

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WTF why couldn't some team let Tiki do this while my FF season was still alive weugfklw4enhti

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is it just me, or have teams started to pass on 1st, run on 2nd, and leave themselves 3rd and 6 much more often than in years past

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No, Madden has been saying that for years.
Incomplete pass on 1st down = 2nd down run
Run for 0 yards on 1st down = 2nd down pass

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Bill Lovett is the Field Judge in this game, the Back Judge is Billy Smith and he is the one that missed that interference call.

Lovett holds the record for most offensive pass interference flags in the superbowl, it was 3 and he threw all three on the Giants in the 2000 superbowl. He lives down the street from me and whenever I see him in a Giant game he will make at least 1 bad call a game. He is #98.

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Does anyone else feel that the Giants are going to give up a huge return in this game?

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They should hand the ball to Tiki and Brandon Jacobs for every play and have Eli stand there. It doesn't give Eli opportunities to suck.

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Jason Campbell just got destroyed.

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Jason Campbell just got destroyed.

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Maybe he should slide earlier then. He can't expect someone to stop when he's going to ground that late. But yes, he did get destroyed.

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I agree, Brady was whining about it against the Jags last week. But he dove head first 2 plays prior to that and then went into a very late slide and bitched about it.

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Jason Campbell just got destroyed.

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Maybe he should slide earlier then. He can't expect someone to stop when he's going to ground that late. But yes, he did get destroyed.

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right when he motioned for his back to block for him you could tell he was gonna get JACKED UP

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Lorenzen is an absolute giant.

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Lorenzen is an absolute giant.

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I'm not watching the game now, but was Eli replaced by Lorenzen?

Cause it would be sick to have a 270 pound guy playing QB. Beast, that he is.

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They put him in real quick to run a QB sneak on 3rd and short and he got it + another yard.

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How can there be pass interference on both players? Collinsworth thats a dumb comment.

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are you serious - that's an absolutely terrible call

plaxico absolutely manhandles the guy and they BOTH get PI? that's so brutal

edited to make sure needle didn't think I was referring to him, but to collinsworth

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I love how trash-talking gets the same penalty as hammering the quarterback from behind late

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Well if you pass on first down and it's incomplete you almost have to run it on 2nd.

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Why?

I think a mixed strategy heavily favoring the pass would maximize EV.

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But if you are incomplete on 2nd then you are in a 3rd and 10 situation. Are you better off trying to converting a 3rd and 10 or a 3rd and 6?

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But if you are incomplete on 2nd then you are in a 3rd and 10 situation. Are you better off trying to converting a 3rd and 10 or a 3rd and 6?

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Yeah, but that's not a comprehensive argument in favor of your point, especially since the median carry length is 2 yards(but for a litany of other reasons as well).

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So depressing. Tomorrow's NFC games would have been so much better had the Giants lost.

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I'm sensing a blow up like the Giants vs. Titans game.

Eli just cannot handle the pressure. He's got the tools, but his mind just isn't in it.

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But if you are incomplete on 2nd then you are in a 3rd and 10 situation. Are you better off trying to converting a 3rd and 10 or a 3rd and 6?

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Yeah, but that's not a comprehensive argument in favor of your point, especially since the median carry length is 2 yards(but for a litany of other reasons as well).

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Just my opinion. Every coach I've played for have followed that theory as well. Is it right? No idea, just what has happened everytime the situation arose.

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I'm sensing a blow up like the Giants vs. Titans game.

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Its just about to happen.

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I'm sensing a blow up like the Giants vs. Titans game.

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Its just about to happen.

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There's not really any special sense required. It's simply what the Giants do.