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mak15 12-18-2006 08:35 PM

3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
villain is TaTaTunes, my stats on him are 14.5/10/2.5, but he felt like a normal Tag multi tabler. we were on a bunch of tables together and i think getting into it a bit. i stacked him by calling a bluff at least once already.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($459)
SB ($1075.90)
BB ($260.60)
Hero ($1994.60)
MP ($379.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $21, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($54) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $36</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $123</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $1051.9</font>, Hero ?

12-18-2006 08:40 PM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
all in

bigt439 12-19-2006 04:26 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
you stack him a lot here.

mak15 12-19-2006 04:40 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
any other opinions?

soah 12-19-2006 04:40 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
I hate folding sets as much as anyone but this spot pretty much sucks and I think it's a lot closer than what the first two replies indicate.

I'd probably end up calling because I've got a set heads up, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

bigt439 12-19-2006 05:06 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
sooo may combos and two pairs...

sorry this one wasnt intentionally the same as the other thread.

soah 12-19-2006 05:14 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
14/10 dude OOP vs an UTG raiser does not have many two pairs or combo draws. Actually, wtf, there is no flush draw out there so that alone eliminates most combo draws.

BalugaWhale 12-19-2006 06:14 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
muuust.... not... fold.... sets....

mak15 12-19-2006 06:17 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
all,

do 14/10's call UTG raises in the SB with suited connectors? my image is pretty sLAG.

lucksack 12-19-2006 06:51 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
all,

do 14/10's call UTG raises in the SB with suited connectors? my image is pretty sLAG.

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably not.

BDaws 12-19-2006 09:38 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
I'd probably felt this, but I wouldn't feel very good about it.

I think the fact that he might get "tricky" with a big pair preflop pushes this to a call. I have seen 14/10's just call preflop with big pairs somewhat frequently. Perhaps they think people will be able to easily put them on big pairs if they get aggressive preflop due to their tightness, I don't really know.

DrMagic 12-19-2006 09:56 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
call and hold vs 99

Melchiades 12-19-2006 10:06 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
The only hands I can see him have that you beat are 99 and bizarre bluff.

callme 12-19-2006 10:59 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
I dont think he would shove 99 with his stats into such a small pot - so there is not much more you beat here - i´m sure he has T9 or a higher set (thats even more likely). Also cant see him shove an overpair like that - thats just not realistic. I faced such spots a lot the last few days - huge shoves in small pots like this (Top2 vs Straight / FH vs &gt;FH / Set vs. Straight) and they always had it - so maybe i´m a little biased towards a fold but still i would fold.

mythrilfox 12-19-2006 11:10 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
I don't know the dude but even 14/10s show up with connectors here. I would go all in.

"I think the fact that he might get "tricky" with a big pair preflop pushes this to a call. I have seen 14/10's just call preflop with big pairs somewhat frequently."

no way he has an overpair...

Melchiades 12-19-2006 11:25 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
[ QUOTE ]
I dont think he would shove 99 with his stats into such a small pot - so there is not much more you beat here - i´m sure he has T9 or a higher set (thats even more likely).

[/ QUOTE ]
If he can have T9 he can have a lot of two pairs and paur/draw combos. So we call. I'm not sure he calls with suited connectors preflop though..

Senor Choppy 12-19-2006 11:27 AM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
There are a lot more combos of 55/99/TT/AA/87 than 77/88/T9.

It's close, but you have to call.

TalentedTom 12-19-2006 05:51 PM

Re: 3/6, 66 on 678 flop
 
i fail to see how tatatunes is a tag - i have him as very loose very aggresive almost a maniac


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