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FLAbutterfly 12-04-2006 01:32 AM

Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
The rakeback site that is potentially for sale is very well constucted site that currently has a page rank of 6 in the Google rankings. It also ranks within the top 3 pages for all terms related to poker rakeback.

If you are interested in purchasing a rakeback site please PM me. We can discuss the details and see if we can work out a fair deal for both sides.

john kane 12-04-2006 03:08 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
$10

kitaristi0 12-04-2006 03:34 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
$11

nanoshark 12-04-2006 03:57 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
$12 and gmail invite

el adam 12-04-2006 04:29 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
1 bagel

Colt McCoy 12-04-2006 04:38 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
One Quizno's coupon - "Free Sub - Buy any size sub and two regular fountain drinks and get a second sub of equal or lesser value for free"

john kane 12-04-2006 05:53 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
$13 and pack of jaffa cakes (although only with 5 jaffa cakes left)

AvivaSimplex 12-05-2006 01:35 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
What's the corporate structure? LLC, Corp, or sole proprietorship? If you're not sure, it's a sole proprietorship.

farang0 12-05-2006 11:54 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
PM me extensive details.

Complete cashflow history (in/out)
Search terms it ranks for
etc

FLAbutterfly 12-06-2006 03:07 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
Thanks for the PMs, I have responded to everyone so far.

As stated in the PMs it is easier for me to talk either through email or AIM because we can communicate much easier.

Thanks.

farang0 12-06-2006 07:02 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
You didnt send me a pm...

spex x 12-06-2006 05:41 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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You didnt send me a pm...

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Probably because never recouperating the start up costs while maintaining a negative monthly cashflow looks pretty bad.

zhouerz 12-06-2006 05:51 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
$3

FLAbutterfly 12-06-2006 08:52 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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You didnt send me a pm...

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Probably because never recouperating the start up costs while maintaining a negative monthly cashflow looks pretty bad.

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Do you generally make comments that you have absolutely zero knowledge about?

The site has been profitable from day 1 as I was the one who designed and created it. It is impossible to have negative cash flows considering the monthly costs are:

1. Web Site Hosting - $9.95/ month

livinitup0 12-06-2006 09:26 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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You didnt send me a pm...

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Probably because never recouperating the start up costs while maintaining a negative monthly cashflow looks pretty bad.

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Do you generally make comments that you have absolutely zero knowledge about?

The site has been profitable from day 1 as I was the one who designed and created it. It is impossible to have negative cash flows considering the monthly costs are:

1. Web Site Hosting - $9.95/ month

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Yeah, unless you have some massive advertising expenses (which the new owner could eliminate) there really is no negative cash flow. Although that does spark the question, if its not costing you that much....Why are you selling?

...and please dont use the excuse "It takes up too much time" we both know that the only major amount of time you invest is processing payments for a few days....answering emails and maintaining the site on a daily basis doesnt take that much time at all....

The total amount of REAL time invested would average to some (insane dollar-amount figure)/hour, when you factor in your ACTUAL hours.

Do you really have other projects that make more than this???

Or...is it that you feel the industry is going to take a huge downfall and that selling now is more cost-effective than putting in the EXTRA work and money to advertise and keep the site as profitable as it is now?

Another question....Have you already pitched the site to commerical buyers?(already established RB sites) or was their offer so low that you believed you could get some lone internet pipe-dreamer to cough up more for it?

Last question... If the poker sites knew that you were selling, would they be OK with tranfering ownership of their affiliate account to a new person? What prevents them from telling the new owner to go (censored) themselves when payday rolls around?


I know im coming off as a bit combative...I'm not trying to attack you or anything, but these are questions that some people wouldnt ask, especially some young poker player with no real buisness experience and money to burn.

Either way, Best of luck in your future projects..

livinitup0 12-06-2006 09:33 PM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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You didnt send me a pm...

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Probably because never recouperating the start up costs while maintaining a negative monthly cashflow looks pretty bad.

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Your response doesnt make sense....the guy asked why he didnt get the PM and others did....In your attempt to look cool and bash the OP, you forgot to put any logic behind your response... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

FLAbutterfly 12-07-2006 12:29 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
The reason I want to sell the site is because it was primarily generating income from sites which no longer either allow US players/rakeback.

The biggest $ generators I had from the site were in order:

1. Party Poker ( I was not providing rakeback, I was simply signing up players from links and the company was keeping all of the $ generated.)
2. Poker Room
3. Hollywood Poker
4. Full Tilt
5. Doyles Room

Now with many compaines shutting down rakeback or US play I need to basically start up an advestising program and invest man hours.

I am currently too busy to "start the site back up."

I would prefer to sell it to someone who wants a professional site and doesn't want to do all the initial start up and creation work which is a bitch.

I have no intention of selling the current players or the affiliate accounts. I will be keeping them and paying those players.

There is now a huge push amongst the other sites to now sign players up on sites which do allow rakeback.

1. Full Tilt
2. Ultimate Bet
3. Absolute
4. Prima

Basically what I am selling is just the site, the company name, and the quality search engine rankings.

Hope that clarifies things.

livinitup0 12-07-2006 12:42 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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Basically what I am selling is just the site, the company name, and the quality search engine rankings.

[/ QUOTE ] Wont the page ranking dramitaclly drop as soon as the current players are gone?

FLAbutterfly 12-07-2006 12:51 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
No, that is just a small part of organic rankings.

1. unique key word rich content
2. other quality sites taht link to your site
3. the popularity of your site, visitors etc

spex x 12-07-2006 01:48 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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You didnt send me a pm...

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Probably because never recouperating the start up costs while maintaining a negative monthly cashflow looks pretty bad.

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Your response doesnt make sense....the guy asked why he didnt get the PM and others did....In your attempt to look cool and bash the OP, you forgot to put any logic behind your response... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Yeah, you're right. Good posts by the way.

Sniper 12-07-2006 03:32 AM

Re: Anyone interested in purchasing a rakeback site?
 
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The reason I want to sell the site is because it was primarily generating income from sites which no longer either allow US players/rakeback....

Now with many compaines shutting down rakeback or US play I need to basically start up an advestising program and invest man hours...

I would prefer to sell it to someone who wants a professional site and doesn't want to do all the initial start up and creation work which is a bitch.

I have no intention of selling the current players or the affiliate accounts. I will be keeping them and paying those players.

Basically what I am selling is just the site, the company name, and the quality search engine rankings.

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Some questions...

1. Not counting Party, how many total rakeback players did you pay in October?

2. How many unique site visitors did you have in the month of November?

3. How many new user real money signups did you have in November?

4. Does the site include a backend trackng system... or will the buyer need to design a customer tracking system?

5. Do you intend to provide assistance to the buyer in establishing new affiliate accounts, since it sounds like you are not transferring your relationship with the poker sites?

6. Has any negative commentary on the site been posted on 2+2 or elsewhere?

7. Aside from SEO, what other value does the site have... ie Unique content?


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