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chesspain 12-03-2006 04:05 PM

NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
Bodog full-table. I have a little over $50, and everyone in the hand has me covered.

No good reads, other than EP seems reasonable, whereas the Button is a calling station.

Preflop: SB posts $0.25. chesspain is BB with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, EP calls $0.50, 2 folds, LP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, <font color="red">SB raises to $1</font>, chesspain calls $1, EP calls $1, LP calls $1, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($5) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, chesspain...

a) Calls?
b) Raises to $2.50?
c) Raises the pot to $5?
d) Pushes?

apaugust 12-03-2006 04:09 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
i would probably raise to 2.50 and hope for a re-raise

Abramovic 12-03-2006 04:14 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
Tricky spot. I think options a and b are the two to choose between. Both have pluses and negatives.

If you call, its likely that if someone has a set they will reraise on this drawy board, and you can then get your chips in, however, if there is no raise were not sure exactly what SB has (he may have a set or two pair), and we give him a cheap turn.

If we raise, we will often lose all top pair hands and get nothing more out of it.

I think I prefer to play it safe and raise to 3 or 4 and hope someone likes their hand.

SubaruSTiMike 12-03-2006 05:00 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
I don't like a call, you want to build the pot, and calling is not going to let you stack him, I thikn if you raise to like 3 or 4 SB might read you as a straight draw because most people slow play flopped monsters. If he has top pair he might call, and if he has better than you're going to get his stack anyways so you want to get it all in before straight cards kill your action.

martijn 12-03-2006 05:05 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
I make it something like 4 and hope for a call

Jigsaws 12-03-2006 05:39 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
C, or maybe a little bit less. $2.50 is awful.

SirNeb 12-03-2006 05:49 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
raise to 2.5 is probably the best, the initial bet doesn't seem all that interested with the flop. You can't going to make a huge pot if he doesn't have a hand right now. 2.5 reraise can mean you just have TP. It doesn't mean you flopped a monster. Most of the time, the raiser will probably fold to even a half pot bet.

Just remember that if you do decide to call, if the raiser decide to bet big on later streaks, you will basically define your hand once you start reraising to build the pot. In the end, you make either the same amount or less versus betting.

dwatts1350 12-03-2006 05:56 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
I'd raise to about $4. If you get no action, you probably weren't gonna get anything else anyway.

Dennisa 12-03-2006 05:56 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
Bodog full-table. I have a little over $50, and everyone in the hand has me covered.

No good reads, other than EP seems reasonable, whereas the Button is a calling station.

Preflop: SB posts $0.25. chesspain is BB with J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, EP calls $0.50, 2 folds, LP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, <font color="red">SB raises to $1</font>, chesspain calls $1, EP calls $1, LP calls $1, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($5) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
<font color="red">SB bets $0.50</font>, chesspain...

a) Calls?
b) Raises to $2.50?
c) Raises the pot to $5?
d) Pushes?

[/ QUOTE ]

Raise to atleast 2.50 or up to 5.00. When you flop a str8, chances are someone else has flopped two pair. The two pair hand will play with you, dont take the chance they are going to slow play.

ticks 12-03-2006 05:58 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
Make it 5.

sputum 12-03-2006 06:01 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
I like a call with that many people behind and the minraise/minbettor on your right. If I was going to raise, it'd be to about $4.
My choice would vary dep on the table and my mood. I've heard Bodog has some aggro players so I'd like to get a raise or call in dep on action behind me.
SB's line seems to provoke action on my tables.

kitaristi0 12-03-2006 06:08 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
$5 or $6. Pot is $6.50 btw.

eigenvalue 12-03-2006 06:09 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
e) Raise to $4!

Layzie 12-03-2006 06:11 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
$5 or $6. Pot is $6.50 btw.

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty sure it's $5

kitaristi0 12-03-2006 06:11 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
$5 or $6. Pot is $6.50 btw.

[/ QUOTE ]

pretty sure it's $5

[/ QUOTE ]

obviously i meant pot sized raise is 6.50

ddrstel 12-03-2006 06:25 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
There are a lot of scary turn cards that will kill your action and shut down anyone willing to get it in with you... get as much money in on this flop as you can.

Lots of limpers could mean two pair or a pair and a gutshot type holdings.
Raise to 5 and pray for a reraise. Re-evaluate the turn based on action. If no one calls your flop raise, then there was no money to be made on this hand anyway.

ghettointlectual 12-03-2006 07:08 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
the donk bet screams to me of a donk who is trying to draw cheaply. I think the possibility that he could be drawing to a better hand than you with AT or AJ you should charge him a lot to draw. I have a principle taken from Super System that if I don't have the nut straight I will charge whoever is in the hand with me to draw to it. I would pot it and maybe even overbet the pot. Big hand big pot.

chesspain 12-03-2006 07:26 PM

Results....
 
I pressed the "pot" button, which made the raise to $5.50...and everyone folded. Meh.

ama0330 12-03-2006 07:59 PM

Re: Results....
 
Sometimes they have nothing. nh

DJSHAD0W 12-03-2006 08:08 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
call... and hope someone else reraises..... if that doesnt work, there are no turn cards that beat you, just ones that make a split more likely... soget aggro on the turn.

DJSHAD0W 12-03-2006 08:10 PM

Re: NL50: Help me play this flopped str8 OOP
 
J10 is the nut str8 - not?


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