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8/16 6-max game: Most of the table is your average poor-avg online player. the one other decent player at the table is not in this hand.

2 players limp in, I have 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the SB

is this worth completing when I'm nearly certain BB won't raise?

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In this situation I complete with most hands that have three cards 9+.

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i think it depends on if you're a good post-flop player or not.

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8/16 6-max game: Most of the table is your average poor-avg online player. the one other decent player at the table is not in this hand.

2 players limp in, I have 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in the SB

is this worth completing when I'm nearly certain BB won't raise?

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what do you think would be a good flop for this hand? how about a bad one?

Seems only playable heads-up or on the button in my opinion.

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I think the problem with this hand is that you are only going to play for the high except in rare instances. However, getting good odds to see a flop cheap with decent high possibilities in a SH game, I don't know. A 9-hi flush can definately hold up in a flop with only 4 players, as can hands like Top2

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if you know how to fold postflop, then yes.

if you suck postflop, then fold preflop.

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if you know how to fold postflop, then yes.

if you suck postflop, then don't play poker .

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this hand certainly has enough potential to complete. You can make 3 nut straights, a strong top 2, a flush that can hold up if there isn't alot of action, random trips. Just fold the majority of flops

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save the four bucks for a beer and a tip

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In this situation I complete with most hands that have three cards 9+.

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REALLY? Even with no low? That surprises me, but I'm interested in hearing you expound upon that. I'm usually the opposite. I don't complete unless I've got two each way.

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High only hands can definately show a profit at limit o8.

I also usually complete with any 2 wheel cards. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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High only hands can definately show a profit at limit o8.

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Interesting.....with only a high hand, you have to play much more cautiously post-flop if the low is out - eh? That's my problem. I don't know how to get out of high-only nut draws when the low is in play and I'm OOP with only a high play. Maybe as I gain more experience, I'll be able to complete more high-only draws too! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I don't know how to get out of high-only nut draws when the low is in play and I'm OOP with only a high play.

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You said it in your post--you get out. You only want to play a high only hand if low is impossible, which happens more frequently than one might think. Since limping high-only hands is so cheap and it's very easy to determine the likelyhood of low being possible (100%, 75%, 25%, 0%) on the flop, high ony draws are relatively easy to play--ie drop the draw in the 75-100% scenarios, play it in the 25-0% scenarios.

One should drop lots of high holdings on low boards--nut flush draws, wrap straight draws, top two pair, and hell, sometimes even made straights. This is all, of course, dependant upon pot odds, situation, etc.

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You only want to play a high only hand if low is impossible, which happens more frequently than one might think.

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I wonder what the percentages say in terms of frequency of hands that have no low qualifiers.

I've always been pretty tight about high-only hands because it's not always easy to get out of high-only hands when you have a draw to the nut high, but there is nut-low danger. I see your point completely and maybe should expand my game a little, but at this point, I just feel that I get trapped too often with high-only draws and that's its just easier to play for the scoop as often as possible.

Of course, it always depends the others playing at your table. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I think low makes around half the time by the river.

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A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 q would be worth it. Unless this is the las flop of your life, then you should raise.

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I think it is less than 40% and maybe even close to 1/3 of all hands that get a low. I'll look it up later.