One last spew.
 

Sort of combo value shove vs draw, try to fold out weak made hands. Villain is 28/14. Def check raises flop far more often than would seem reasonable. Loves to check raise turn all in on a draw.

Plan was to shove over his turn bet on most cards.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $23</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $75</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($180, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $125</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $400</font>

Re: One last spew.
 

well if youre going to call flop you might as well.

Re: One last spew.
 

this is fine given read.

Re: One last spew.
 

yes if you're calling flop, turn is basically a must. I don't know his stack size so I won't say that I have a feeling he isn't going to let go of much at all when he plays this way. I dunno though. A player like this is tough to guage w/ re: to FE; but you're play is strong and exactly what he'd probably expect you to do w/ QQ+ here at the very least.


fwiw I'd rather just dump the flop. he's going to hand you his stack at some point.

Re: One last spew.
 

a-ok given your description. main thing being is would he play KQ this way and would he stack off with onepair.

Re: One last spew.
 

After calling flop you obviously have to and given read I don't mind it too much. He has you covered, right? Cause stacks kinda need to be at least that deep IMO.

Re: One last spew.
 

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Sort of combo value shove

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rofl you are delusional. Just admit to yourself that you went all-in on a bluff and you will be able to analyze your play/results much more accurately.

Re: One last spew.
 

Its obviously much more on the bluff side.

You think he never shows up with a draw though?

Plus I'm occasionally bluffing with best hand.

Re: One last spew.
 

You're occasionally bluffing with the best hand, but how often does villian fold a big Queen here? What if he has QdXd? I guess you need to do this once you call the flop, but as stated above, you can simply fold on the flop and find a better opportunity to get it all in against this guy.

Re: One last spew.
 

I would much rather 3bet the flop than take this line.

Re: One last spew.
 

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I would much rather 3bet the flop than take this line.

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I considered that, but aren't i just pot committing myself with a hand that is prob best if he folds, and in poor shape but forced to call if he pushes?

Also, to all those saying just wait till I flop big vs him, aren't I losing too many small pots in the meantime if he is willing to put in small raises to put me to the test, but is more likely to have a big hand if all the money goes in.

Seems like I need to do something to offset this.

Re: One last spew.
 

No, because you're likely crushed if he pushes so you fold, you don't have anything but OC's a push isn't giving you odds to draw to 6 outs.

Re: One last spew.
 

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Sort of combo value shove

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rofl you are delusional. Just admit to yourself that you went all-in on a bluff and you will be able to analyze your play/results much more accurately.

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what soah said

this is NOT a value push

ifyou call the flop, you should do this

however, I would just fold the flop

Re: One last spew.
 

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Also, to all those saying just wait till I flop big vs him, aren't I losing too many small pots in the meantime if he is willing to put in small raises to put me to the test, but is more likely to have a big hand if all the money goes in.

Seems like I need to do something to offset this.

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Board: Qs 4d 3d
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 54.5965 % 54.03% 00.56% { AsKs }
Hand 2: 45.4035 % 44.84% 00.56% { random }



Board: Qs 4d 3d 4h
Dead:
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 56.8379 % 55.76% 01.08% { AsKs }
Hand 2: 43.1621 % 42.08% 01.08% { random }

Re: One last spew.
 

guaranteed not folding a Q especially seems like a donk once he calls the flop its almost invetable Q... the flop bet looks strong (almost PSB) just muck flop and wait to stack him later