PP, I hate these hands
 

My first hand at table, all I've seen of villain thus far is him going off on someone for making a "stupid preflop call".

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
[color=#cc0000]UTG raises</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000]UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000]UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#cc0000]UTG bets</font>, Hero...

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

Flop is an insta checkraise. Since you didn't, checkraising the turn is less of a great idea but also fine, IMO. Given your check/call on the turn, I'm assuming that you would have bet/called any other card.

I think calling the river is slightly -EV given the ace

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

When I'm not 3betting low(er) pocket pairs preflop, I tend to C/R them HU on flops like this. Most of the time he'll have overs that you should be charging to draw, so C/R, bet bet is how I would usually play a hand like this.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

c/r the flop then lead each street.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

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c/r the flop then lead each street.

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Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

Can you explain why this is a insta check raise? I really want to know the reasoning...

I would have bet the flop and turn and c/c the river.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

its an insta checkraise because we have the equity to do it versus his range and we'll get value from that range each time.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

He very often has overcards here, a lot more often than pocket pairs, so you are ahead most of the time.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

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He very often has overcards here, a lot more often than pocket pairs, so you are ahead most of the time.

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And he's calling at least flop and usually turn with these holdings UI as well.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

I am not trying to tie a guy with overcards to his hand or give two overcards correct odds to call so I usually don't c/r. Especially with a pp as low as 66. I just bet the flop unless I think he will fold to a c/r.

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I am not trying to tie a guy with overcards to his hand or give two overcards correct odds to call so I usually don't c/r. Especially with a pp as low as 66. I just bet the flop unless I think he will fold to a c/r.

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Overcards are calling whether you donk or checkraise. You might as well get two bets in on the flop. You're not bloating the pot so much that overcards (properly discounted) have odds to call the turn.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

What do you do in case of a 3bet on a C/R-ed flop ???

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c/r the flop then lead each street.

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Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

Nobody has mentioned on of the most important reasons for check-raising this flop. You get information. If he 3-bets the flop or raises you on the turn a fold becomes an easier decision. Calling you get very little information.

YT

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

As far as instant c/r I disagree. I also check call down to river about half the time.

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

Omg the hand converter screwed this up and it took me a day of not posting before I realized it...

What actually happened...

flop:

i bet, he raises, i call

turn:

i check, he bets, i raise, he calls

river:

i ....

Re: PP, I hate these hands
 

hmm, that's slightly overplayed