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Nezzar 11-06-2006 06:22 AM

have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Hi,

in september i won 29 session out of 30. I made over 700K that month.

At the begining of october i lost 500K in five days.

after my first session I was so tired and exhausted that I only made it to my sofa in the living room and collapsed.
when i woke up I immediatly started playing again. After the second session i warmed a piece of garlic bread in the oven and managed to eat half of it before i again collapsed on the sofa...

Third day I ate the rest of the garlic bread in front of the computer while losing again. after my third session i watched some simpsons in my sofa before i fell asleep.

Fourth day i actually ate breakfast, took a shower and made some coffe before i started to play. I lost again and some hours before i made it to my sofa I got a call from the site I play at. "its not your night? is it?" the man said. They recommended that i would call it a night and stop playing. Do you think i listened?

On the fith day i immediatly went online and played. Now i had started to get really depressed... i felt so bad inside but i just couldnt stop playing. I thought of my parents who doesnt have alot of money and my sister who is going to a school in london which isnt supported by the swedish student loan thing so she has to struggle hard to afford to go there... I lost this session also.

But now i left before i was tired and sleepy and watched simpsons for the rest of the night and morning. How wonderful the simpson life seem. I watched simpsons for at least 6 hours... They gave me such comfort. I spent the whole weekend wacthing simspons without playing poker.

finally it was a new week... in the morning the girl that cleans my appartment came and said i looked like [censored]. "yeah i feel like [censored] also" i said. she made me shower and shave myself, then she took me for lunch. When we stepped out in the sunlight i was blinded. I hadnt seen daylight for a week. She took my arm and led me towards lunch. I heard all these people walking, talking, going on with their daily lives as i was walking... the sounds were a strange but welcomed noise and i finally got my eyes adjusted and saw all these poeple! amazing!

after we had lunch i felt a little better. I called all the friends i had and talked to them. Telling them about what had happend and such. i felt a little better.

Then my room m8 who had been in dublin for the week came back. we went to play tennis and then hit the gym. I felt better. but still, i was deppressed.

When i finally started to play again i won. but i was very afriad when i played. my confidence was shattered. i wondered if i had just been lucky to make it where i am. VARIANCE. what a dreadful word. I hate it. anyway i won again, small but i won. i went down in stakes and started playing 10-20 NL. it felt ok. i still played 50-100 but didnt dare to play too long...


Do you remember the first time you got your ass kicked in a fight? I was 16 and the guy was 20. He was looking for a fight... challenging me with words. I was drunk so i challenged him back. I had friends watching me. I took my jacket of and raised my fist. he stood in front of me with his hands to his sides. Then suddenly my eybrow exploded and i was lying on the ground with him standing over asking if i wanted more...

Before it happend to me i had a innocent feeling, a sense of immortality. After that my spirit had been broken.

another time when there was trouble at the club/disco people came and asked me for my help. I was so embarrassed from the first time that i came and fought their fight for them to restore my pride, even though i was afraid of getting my ass kicked. this time the guy broke my nose with three head-butts.

after this i started to get catuios and when someone bumbed in to me on the dancefloor i just moved away. When someone tried to get me to fight i just walked away or tried to calm him. i was tired of confrontations. if the guy is bigger than u he usally wont back down and will fight u, if the guy is smaller than u he usally wont fight u.. in some cases he gets his "big firend", though...

Anyway the same thing has happend in poker now. im afraid to loose money when i play. not so much as it was at first though... but im afraid. Im afraid i will start a session and not be able to quit. I have a really hard time quiting when im down and i dont think i have quit when im down ever before... I have always played until im even or the table breaks or if i have some really important meeting in my schedule.

anyway i got way off why i began writting in the first place... When you lose and lose and lose, have you ever been so deppressed that you wanna kill yourself?

I had some really dark thoughts during those five horrendous days.
I didnt reach the level of actually considering suicide but i wonder how far away i was?
If i had lost all i had would i actually consider suicide? Probably not.
Would i think the thought? Yes, Probably.

Anyway its just money, right? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Now i feel much better especially since i have just come from a nice 70K win session. But im still afraid and my confidence and spirit is still broken, but its on recovery. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

effinA 11-06-2006 06:49 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
i didnt read any of it, but i figured i respond so u dont kill urself.......everyone on here has felt such depression, just remember one thing...........DONT KILL YOURSELF.

DJ_Northstar 11-06-2006 06:50 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
tl; dr for sure

it's just money.

CaseS87 11-06-2006 06:51 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
good read, sounds like you hit rock bottom. this is a good example of how NOT to deal with tilt.

edfurlong 11-06-2006 06:53 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
I want garlic bread so bad right now. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

mperich 11-06-2006 06:58 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Wtf why is there no mention of booze in this post. Clearly the only cure for multiple 6 figure downswings is to binge

-Mike

ginko 11-06-2006 06:59 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Dude I feel where your coming from(i read the entire post).

Only thing I suggest is getting a good schedule and eating good and some exercise. Easier said than done I know.

And set a stop loss. Its SO hard to come back winning when you are down a lot of money. You are either getting cold decked or playing bad, or both.

Remember poker is just a job or a game, it should not run your life. I learned that the hard way.

Anyways... GOod luck you are a good guy.

ski 11-06-2006 07:02 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
You won 700K in september

WTF.

You could lose your arms and still be better off than most people.

ginko 11-06-2006 07:05 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Hey I should add, if you are rich or have a lot of money, I think it would be wise to hire a cook or order some healthy already made food and have it delivered to your house. Like a day or twos worth. Sandwiches, salads, eggs, etc,fruit like bananas. And a lot of water.

It is a fact that being hungry lowers mental performance and stamina. These foods also fight depression at a base levels because they are just extremely healthy for the brain.

younghov17 11-06-2006 07:07 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
"Do you remember the first time you got your ass kicked in a fight? I was 16 and the guy was 20. He was looking for a fight... challenging me with words. I was drunk so i challenged him back. I had friends watching me. I took my jacket of and raised my fist. he stood in front of me with his hands to his sides. Then suddenly my eybrow exploded and i was lying on the ground with him standing over asking if i wanted more..."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

younghov17 11-06-2006 07:09 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
"which one of yall just kick me"

ginko 11-06-2006 07:09 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
10k fight yo?

catalyst 11-06-2006 07:14 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
10k fight yo?

[/ QUOTE ]

younghov, you are an absolute joke.

that is all.

AK47Suited 11-06-2006 07:20 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Nezzar,

Im surprised you havent gone thru this before on your way up the stakes, a lot of ppl on here have done things simmiliar to what your describing and feeling. I know I can say I have.

If your on a huge ass downswing like you said in those 5 days you should have a close friend u can call to help you take a break. I know its so hard to not chase losses for some reason. Im getting better and better at not tilting and feeling bad about poker results.

Sounds like you could use some changes in ur life though definitely...better diet, make sure your sessions arent non stop marathons mix in some other stuff especialy when ur running bad its so important to take a break and come back fresh.

Spechel EDD 11-06-2006 07:30 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
"Do you remember the first time you got your ass kicked in a fight? I was 16 and the guy was 20. He was looking for a fight... challenging me with words. I was drunk so i challenged him back. I had friends watching me. I took my jacket of and raised my fist. he stood in front of me with his hands to his sides. Then suddenly my eybrow exploded and i was lying on the ground with him standing over asking if i wanted more..."

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah its funny cause he didnt need his friends to help him get beat up in front of his mother in his front yard

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S 11-06-2006 07:36 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
The Real Problem:

http://www.dimaggios.co.uk/_media/_h...rlic-Bread.jpg

Kilillan 11-06-2006 07:47 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
start carrying mace and date the maid

Gary Stevenson 11-06-2006 08:36 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
in september i won 29 session out of 30. I made over 700K that month.

[/ QUOTE ]
sick. graphs/screen shots, etc.

[ QUOTE ]
At the begining of october i lost 500K in five days.

[/ QUOTE ]
ouch...

[ QUOTE ]
I lost again and some hours before i made it to my sofa I got a call from the site I play at. "its not your night? is it?" the man said. They recommended that i would call it a night and stop playing. Do you think i listened?

[/ QUOTE ]
lololololololololol, did that really happen? if so what site, that's so sweet

[ QUOTE ]
finally it was a new week... in the morning the girl that cleans my appartment came and said i looked like [censored]. "yeah i feel like [censored] also" i said. she made me shower and shave myself, then she took me for lunch. When we stepped out in the sunlight i was blinded. I hadnt seen daylight for a week. She took my arm and led me towards lunch. I heard all these people walking, talking, going on with their daily lives as i was walking... the sounds were a strange but welcomed noise and i finally got my eyes adjusted and saw all these poeple! amazing!

[/ QUOTE ]
she probably wants to pwn you...you should work on that (assuming she's hot)...then we'll need pics

[ QUOTE ]
Do you remember the first time you got your ass kicked in a fight? I was 16 and the guy was 20. He was looking for a fight... challenging me with words. I was drunk so i challenged him back. I had friends watching me. I took my jacket of and raised my fist. he stood in front of me with his hands to his sides. Then suddenly my eybrow exploded and i was lying on the ground with him standing over asking if i wanted more...

[/ QUOTE ]
LOL, i immediately thought of a 10k fight

[ QUOTE ]
another time when there was trouble at the club/disco people came and asked me for my help. I was so embarrassed from the first time that i came and fought their fight for them to restore my pride, even though i was afraid of getting my ass kicked. this time the guy broke my nose with three head-butts.

[/ QUOTE ]
LOL x 2


[ QUOTE ]
anyway i got way off why i began writting in the first place... When you lose and lose and lose, have you ever been so deppressed that you wanna kill yourself?

[/ QUOTE ]
no, you might want some professional help with that...

Suigin406 11-06-2006 08:39 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
i actually read this whole thing because of the title...please don't do anything rash as losing happens to everyone...i hope u feel better after taking a step back to analyze everything...

Chomp 11-06-2006 08:42 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
OP, if this post is an exageration, it's not hugely funny. Just kinda warped.

But if you are serious (even a little bit) then you need to stop pissing around at a silly web forum and get some fuc*ing professional help.

JDalla 11-06-2006 08:51 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
OP = Eric Molina?

Nielsio 11-06-2006 08:58 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Emotional stability is a skill one should develop for this game. Much like bankroll management and game selection (hint, hint, Grimm).

mackthefork 11-06-2006 09:05 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
If this is a joke (prob BBV etc) then fine, if not then you have a serious gambling problem, you need to stop playing and get some help, like now, doesn't matter how much you are winning, you are going to self destruct yourself eventually, and no amount of money is worth that.

Mack

Roefish 11-06-2006 09:30 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Hi,

I've read your post entirely and although it's fun to read it's also shocking.
You seem to be obsessed by poker. Even though you're making a lot of money with it, are you really happy with the fact poker is running your life?
maybe you need something like a break.
I took a 3 month break once.It wasn't fun but it was healthy.
Get some hobbys, eat better and more regularly.
Go to the local restaurant when ur angry and tilting.
If you feel bad for your sister having to work so hard, give her some money.
You can afford it and it's family after all.
I really do think you need a month+ time out and a healthier lifestyle.
It seems like that poker is the only thing in your life that matters to you, which is dangarous.
It means that when you're losing you have nothing to fall back on.
I seldom get depressed or feel bad for a long time over poker losses.
I have a lot of differant things i enjoy as well and i can fall back on.
I used to quit school to play pro and i realized that even though i can make money with poker i still need an education and eventually a job.
You're not really happy with the fact poker is running your life are you?
Regardless of winnings do you really feel fine with that?
It's just money after all.

govman6767 11-06-2006 09:42 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
I think anyone who was considering suicide and read this post would read all these posts and say to themselves.

Wow compared to donkeys who toss away 500k life is good !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I'll go on living.

You can get your 500k back by starting a self help clinic.
90% of 2+2 will join you.... me included I always liked a good story

FoxVR6 11-06-2006 09:52 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think anyone who was considering suicide and read this post would read all these posts and say to themselves.

Wow compared to donkeys who toss away 500k life is good !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I'll go on living.


[/ QUOTE ]

Umm... he's still up 200k in 2 months.

iggymcfly 11-06-2006 09:58 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Yeah, that 29 out of 30 winning sessions thing definitely sounds like you were chasing your losses a lot. I think you need to stay at lower stakes for a while, and while you're there, you should practice playing for a set time. Maybe for 2 or 3 weeks, decide exactly how long you're going to play and then quit at that time, regardless of where your stack's at.

Then, once you've got used to the idea that it's OK to quit when you're down, and quit several sessions when losing, you can loosen it up a little bit and start basing your decision about how long to play on how good the games are.

If you've got the skills to win 700K in a month, this downswing isn't a big deal. Just tell yourself that the money doesn't matter because you'll get it all back in the long run. As long as you keep yourself away from mega-monkey tilt and use decent BR management, you'll never want for money again.

Gorilla Boy 11-06-2006 10:02 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
This is an interesting post. My initial thought was that you're joking, but having read & re-read the post I don't think you are.....

[ QUOTE ]
OP, if this post is an exageration, it's not hugely funny. Just kinda warped.

But if you are serious (even a little bit) then you need to stop pissing around at a silly web forum and get some fuc*ing professional help.

[/ QUOTE ]

I 100% agree with this guy! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Nezzar 11-06-2006 10:41 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hey I should add, if you are rich or have a lot of money, I think it would be wise to hire a cook or order some healthy already made food and have it delivered to your house. Like a day or twos worth. Sandwiches, salads, eggs, etc,fruit like bananas. And a lot of water.

It is a fact that being hungry lowers mental performance and stamina. These foods also fight depression at a base levels because they are just extremely healthy for the brain.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ah, good suggestion. I have to try to get a cook then because in sweden there is only pizza that is delivered to the door [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img].

kitaristi0 11-06-2006 10:45 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
According to my math 700k-500k+70k = LOTS OF MONEY. Stop whining.

Nezzar 11-06-2006 10:47 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Gary,

[ QUOTE ]
lololololololololol, did that really happen? if so what site, that's so sweet

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes it happend. I play at ladbrokes. Obviously they care about me and think im a nice guy.

faded 11-06-2006 10:49 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
The Real Problem:

http://www.dimaggios.co.uk/_media/_h...rlic-Bread.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]


carbs?

Nezzar 11-06-2006 10:51 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
OP, if this post is an exageration, it's not hugely funny. Just kinda warped.

But if you are serious (even a little bit) then you need to stop pissing around at a silly web forum and get some fuc*ing professional help.

[/ QUOTE ]

Not a joke. I had some dark thought at the end of those five days, but as i said i never considered suicide.

Nezzar 11-06-2006 11:00 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
Hi Roefsih,

[ QUOTE ]
I took a 3 month break once.It wasn't fun but it was healthy.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im afraid the other guys will develop and be better than me if i take a break.

[ QUOTE ]
Get some hobbys, eat better and more regularly.

[/ QUOTE ]
im trying.

[ QUOTE ]
If you feel bad for your sister having to work so hard, give her some money.
You can afford it and it's family after all.

[/ QUOTE ]

I pay for her school (the same amount that the student organisation would had her school been supported by them) and also i give her the same monthly amount that student loan thing would give her. She still have to struggle because its so expensive in london compared to sweden [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].

[ QUOTE ]
You're not really happy with the fact poker is running your life are you?

[/ QUOTE ]

sometimes not i.e when i lose.

[ QUOTE ]
It's just money after all.

[/ QUOTE ]

Very true.

Little_Luck 11-06-2006 11:01 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
I would kill myself too if I only made 200k in a two month period.

The only cure for getting over a huge downswing is to get unstuck. You'll immediately not care about the downswing and probably go offer the maid some overtime work.

Sometimes I will take 2 weeks off after getting burnt out and spend the time hanging out with family and friends that I don't get to see as much as I would like.

Take a break and go get boxing lessons?

Nezzar 11-06-2006 11:01 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think anyone who was considering suicide and read this post would read all these posts and say to themselves.

Wow compared to donkeys who toss away 500k life is good !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think I'll go on living.

You can get your 500k back by starting a self help clinic.
90% of 2+2 will join you.... me included I always liked a good story

[/ QUOTE ]

Hehe [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

this makes me feel better.

inferno 11-06-2006 11:09 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
I was reading it till you started about a fight or smt, dude wtf :\\\

disjunction 11-06-2006 11:15 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
You shouldn't be spending even a day without getting out of your house. It sounds like your job is keeping you isolated. You may know intellectually that poker isn't everything but you're not going to process it right if you don't give yourself the correct stimulation. You can't let your self-identity depend on your poker results.

Join an activity in your community, even if it's something you hate, you have to do it. Keep social networks, even if they are full of people you hate, you have to communicate on a day to day basis just to keep your brain functioning correctly.

Also exercise if you can, and if you haven't. If you do it once you will want to repeat.

I am convinced that any human being will go bat- [censored] insane if they keep to themselves for too long.

HERE_2_gamble_ 11-06-2006 11:28 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
im guessing your nebuchad, go take a break have a holiday with some friends or family or whatever. then step down some limits cause when i was briefly watching some of your games you were out of control to be honest. Also quit playing some people heads up ( think youve stop playing a few people already.)
This is what i need to do anyway [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Gl to you hope it all turns out good, see ya at the tables!

chip_nich 11-06-2006 11:30 AM

Re: have you ever felt so depressed that you want to commit suicide?
 
omfg...mate take a step back look how much money you have and how good you are at poker compared to most who play!!

Eat healthy food,have sex with hot girl(should be easy with ur bankroll)....go on holiday some where hot,Thailand for example to keep out of cold Sweden winter.
Take laptop with you...drop down in stakes 5-10NL or some where near.Sun bathe on beach eat nice food go scuba diving.

In short enjoy your wealth...and get out more...healthy body=healthy mind!

ps-who is op?? Gattcha on ladbrookes? or bengt sonnert?


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