Doyles \"Rush\" concept
 

In Super System Doyle talks about how when he wins a pot he automatically plays the next and normally for a raise. This allows him to go on a "rush". I believe in rushes and havent tried this but I was interested in what some of you guys think. I assume no one has really tried it but what are your guys thoughts?

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I think this is so much [censored]!

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although i like SS, i think this is a crappy concept. Online many people wont even know what happened in the last hand, much less who exactly won it unless it was huge. No reason to put yourself in -EV situations like raising 72o UTG just because you won the last pot. Its always nice to win a few in a row, but trying to force it is really a poor idea IMO.

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the idea obviously isn't that you're more likely to win the hand becuase you won the last one, but rather the difference is in how players perceive you

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look up "gamblers fallacy" on google

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yeah this concept is wayyy overratated IMO and can get average players into a lot of trouble.

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the idea obviously isn't that you're more likely to win the hand becuase you won the last one, but rather the difference is in how players perceive you

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Online this concept is beyond useless. If you play live and can get a table reputation like Doyle's then I think it would work fine for you.

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I think it has "some" merit. We tend to play better when we're winning and worse when we're loosing.

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In Super System Doyle talks about how when he wins a pot he automatically plays the next and normally for a raise. This allows him to go on a "rush". I believe in rushes and havent tried this but I was interested in what some of you guys think. I assume no one has really tried it but what are your guys thoughts?

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He doesn't automatically play anything. lol...

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look up "gamblers fallacy" on google

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Cards run in streaks. Absolute proof below:

http://it.pokernews.com/files_it/cnt/44e04ef4bc660.jpg

http://www.igottexasholdem.com/chris_moneymaker.jpg

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I used the rush concept when I won 2K at a donkament and decided to run it up playing 2/4NL. I don't know if you know what this means, but EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

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I think even in the book Doyle acknowledges there is no correlation/scientific reasoning why one is more likely to win another pot just because he just won one.

His point was more that attentive players would commit a psychological/mental error by somehow thinking hes on a streak and play more timidly - a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I think this works better if you got a LAG style.

This concept is much less useful online ESPECIALLY SSNL. I suspect it *might* have a little merit at higher stakes with attentive players... but I wouldn't know [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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In Super System Doyle talks about how when he wins a pot he automatically plays the next and normally for a raise. This allows him to go on a "rush". I believe in rushes and havent tried this but I was interested in what some of you guys think. I assume no one has really tried it but what are your guys thoughts?

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look up "gamblers fallacy" on google

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Cards run in streaks. Absolute proof below:

http://it.pokernews.com/files_it/cnt/44e04ef4bc660.jpg

http://www.igottexasholdem.com/chris_moneymaker.jpg

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POTD

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This is primarily for live games where a winning/running hot image has a bigger impact on how your opponents play against you.

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Doyle also wrote a book for online play. In that book, the preface says something like:

If you play online like I told you in SuperSystem, you are going to lose all of your money.

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Umm tell me have you seen him doing in high stakes anything he wrote in SS? Nop.

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In Super System Doyle talks about how when he wins a pot he automatically plays the next and normally for a raise. This allows him to go on a "rush". I believe in rushes and havent tried this but I was interested in what some of you guys think. I assume no one has really tried it but what are your guys thoughts?

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Every hand is an independent event. Acting like you're "on a rush" only works for lame and unsophisticated/superstitious players.

AB

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Every hand is an independent event. Acting like you're "on a rush" only works for lame and unsophisticated/superstitious players.

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Which describes 90% of the people I play against in live games.

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Every hand is an independent event.



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Yes and no. The cards are independent. The players, however, have memory. Moreso live than online just because you see more of the same faces live than online, until you reach the higher levels.

But oftentimes, to properly play a hand requires the context of prior hands with this particular foe.

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Online this concept is beyond useless. If you play live and can get a table reputation like Doyle's then I think it would work fine for you.

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ya because people just dont pay attention online, right? i disagree... people DO notice other players unless of course your playing 8+tables. once you play a few pots ina row esp. for a rasie i think you will be labelled as LAG and thus can be tighter in the future and work off your image. JUST like when you switch tables in a tourney and u raise the very first pot no matter what , you may get labbeled"maniac" right away.