tough spot vs snake8484
 

snake is a solid high stakes regular who I probably shouldn't be playing heads up but I ran really good vs him for our first few hundred hands so I am stickin around, giving action.

this hand was pretty tough. I think preflop, flop, and turn are pretty straightforward. river is the hardest part. it's basically just a question of how often he's bluffing and what types of hands he would take this line with that would result in a river bluff. it's impossible that he's trying to value bet a worse hand (QJ) from my experience with him.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $50 BB (2 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($8503.70)
BB ($7649)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $50.
<font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $150</font>, Hero (poster) calls $100.
Sometimes I re-raise here with the button but I decided to keep pot smaller because I definately didn't want to get 4bet preflop and reverse implied odds

Flop: ($300) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $250</font>, Hero calls $250.

Keeping the pot small for now

Turn: ($800) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $650</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1800</font>, Hero calls $1150.
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Oh yeah! A flush draw! Hmmmm that's a tricky sized check raise. I would kind of expect a bigger c-r with monsters as he is giving me great odds to draw

River: ($4400) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3800</font>, Hero

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

I could see him playing any of teh draws like that, Id pay off especially if you wantto keep playing him.

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

yeah, this is either one of the draws, or you're crushed. that T isn't too great but I'd end up looking him up

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I dont know the tendencies of him or your match but its not like you look that strong either. I can see a good player play draws and smaller pocket pairs like this. I dont mind a call

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I dont know the tendencies of him or your match but its not like you look that strong either. I can see a good player play draws and smaller pocket pairs like this. I dont mind a call

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small pocket pairs? huh?

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I dont know the tendencies of him or your match but its not like you look that strong either. I can see a good player play draws and smaller pocket pairs like this. I dont mind a call

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small pocket pairs? huh?

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Why?

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

This is an easy fold btw

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

Tony,

what are you talking about?

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This is an easy fold btw

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you're saying snake never check raises this turn w/ a draw?
or that he checks the river with a missed draw?

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This is an easy fold btw

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you're saying snake never check raises this turn w/ a draw?
or that he checks the river with a missed draw?

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basically I have never seen anything that creative from him.....Till he proves me wrong

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

pointless hand, it's 100% history dependant.

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Anyone for pushing turn? Your FE has to be very substantial given stack sizes, you could easily have the best hand, you got outs, etc etc. I'd strongly consider it.

Kirk

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

Grim Called -580
Grim Folded +250

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whats that mean?

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whats that mean?

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those are odds. 2.5/1 on ur money that u folded (i.e. ud rarely fold) 1/~6 that u called (u always call)

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whats that mean?

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those are odds. 2.5/1 on ur money that u folded (i.e. ud rarely fold) 1/~6 that u called (u always call)

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im lost...

could have a set and be looking to get u to hit when he fills up/ inducing a push w/ a weak raise. if u know he's either got u crushd or ure beating his busted draw, id have to say its history dependent, like have u ever folded after calling a turn like this? does he check after missing his turn bluff? would u try to vb a jack here and fold if he crd? etc etc etc. idk the answers to ne of these questions fwiw

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

ive seen a few posts in here saying to push the turn.. i'm not so sure thats extremely weak and doesnt allow villain to bluff river thinking he has control of the hand IMO J10 is the only hand that would suck but his turn c/r doesnt make sense for J10.. possibly a set but i dont think he plays a set this way, or a hand that big unless he basically sees your hand face up.

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

What hand goes for a checkraise on this draw heavy board. Or does Grim play his hands very st8 forward (never takes a free card)?

Re: tough spot vs snake8484
 

with 100bb stacks I am assuming you'd shove turn Grim?


As played I think this is a fold as long as he hasn't been playing Laggy