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Unsure with the river play in this hand, maybe a criticism of the turn c/r as well.
Do i bet this river?
if i bet this river and he raises whats my play?
say if i check and he bets half hte pot whats my play?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1125410660: Table Far Hills - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:00:54 ET - 2006/10/20
Seat 1: s_praetorian ($58.80)
Seat 2: mikeridings ($7)
Seat 3: Cap Bob ($74.35)
Seat 4: funlovinsanta ($99.10)
Seat 5: melinao ($65.80)
Seat 6: fdlm ($0), is sitting out
Seat 7: PoorPokerPlayer ($70.95)
Seat 8: BirdiePutt ($16.70), is sitting out
Seat 9: zouleous ($81.25)
funlovinsanta posts the small blind of $0.25
melinao posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PoorPokerPlayer [Kh Kc]
fdlm adds $50
fdlm has returned
PoorPokerPlayer raises to $1.75
zouleous folds
s_praetorian folds
mikeridings folds
Cap Bob calls $1.75
funlovinsanta folds
melinao folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc Qh 2s]
PoorPokerPlayer bets $4
funlovinsanta is feeling confused
Cap Bob calls $4
*** TURN *** [Jc Qh 2s] [6d]
funlovinsanta is feeling normal
funlovinsanta is feeling happy
PoorPokerPlayer checks
funlovinsanta is feeling angry
funlovinsanta is feeling happy
Cap Bob bets $6
PoorPokerPlayer raises to $15
Cap Bob calls $9
*** RIVER *** [Jc Qh 2s 6d] [Td]
PoorPokerPlayer ???

Here ya go

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $0
Hero: $70.95
MP1: $81.25
MP2: $58.80
CO: $7
Button: $74.35
SB: $99.10
BB: $65.80

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $1.75, 3 folds, Button calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($4.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $4, Button calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero raises to $15, Button calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($42.25, 3 players)
Hero????

thanks, the converter i used didnt convert full titl hands, got it now tho.

Oh and I would check hoping he'll check it down thinking your going to c/r him again. This is a tricky spot and I'm not sure how I would react to a psb. I think I would c/f here.

all in? also i would lead turn

and what is he callin an all in bet with that i beat? i cant think of any. I think an all in bet would be just a bluff to get a 2 pair hand to fold out.

your turn c/r sux. on principle and size.

my line would look something like c/c turn.

lead river for 2/3 pot.

why am i c/c the turn and betting the river when the river looks a lot worse than the turn, if anything shouldnt those 2 streets be reversed, lead the turn c/c or possibly c/f the river.

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your turn c/r sux. on principle and size.

my line would look something like c/c turn.

lead river for 2/3 pot.

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I like this line a lot better than what was played.

is the 2/3 sized pot bet on the river a value bet here? what purpose is this bet. For me to do that dont we need to put villain on AJ, AQ and only those 2, can we do that.

What was your thinking behind the turn c/r? Do you think villain will call off his stack with top pair? Is this a hand you want to felt against him?

imo, the turn raise is pretty bad. as played, is betting 15 on this river okay? i think if he raises its a fold, but i think if you bet 15 he will call with worse hands. a c/f to anything more than 1/2 pot is fine.

my thinking on the turn is that i could better define his hand by seeing what he does on a c/r. At that point im really not looking to go to the felt. But i feel he could raise wiht aq kq maybe even aj on the turn and leave me in a tough spot, if i c/r and than he comes over the top i feel i can safely fold.