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Reid L 10-16-2006 11:48 PM

When to leave a table
 
Ok fine, if youre going to silence me for thinking differently then ill change subjects. at what point should i leave a table. Now im not talking about when im playing bad and im down, im talking about being way up. for instance rght now i have $53 at a $10 max buyin table. I have to make this decision a lot and generally i find that when i get up big i dont win as much. so when should i leave the table? when i double up? should i stay when i have such a big chip advantage?

bozlax 10-16-2006 11:58 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
Ok, apparently you still don't get it. This is a forum about LIMIT Hold 'Em. Go to the link on the left that says "Micro Stakes" (on my display, 8 lines below "Micro-Limit"), and try it out there.

And, fwiw, nobody tried to silence you. What they said was, playing LIMIT HE, any strategy that involves playing any two cards preflop sucks, and it does.

bravos1 10-16-2006 11:59 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
when you are at a good table and playing well, you should not get up unless you have to....

It has become clear that you are playing NL. There is a Micro NL foruminstead of a limit one like this. Many of us play both, but yu have to keepin mind the forum when you look at the comments given.

Reid L 10-17-2006 12:00 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
dang it, im sorry. when it sayed micro limits i didnt realize it meant literally limit poker, i appologize.

Nfinity 10-17-2006 12:04 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
An answer to this question can be found in the answer to another related question...

why are you at the table to begin with?

Wetdog 10-17-2006 12:20 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
If the table is good, quit when you are:
tired
drunk
blazed
tilted

That is all.

Happy pokering.

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SheridanCat 10-17-2006 12:21 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
I have a question for the Moderator who moved this thread here. Why? This isn't the forum for threads you find annoying or "simple". If you think the OP needs to find this forum, direct him here. Don't just dump threads here.

dc_publius 10-17-2006 12:33 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 

I'll give you a specific answer: 1.5-2 hours.

Personally, I have found this to be my biggest problem area. Obviously, table conditions change, people come and go, and part of your decision lies in who you are playing against. But also your opponents do get smarter, and you get more tired. After 2 hours of playing 25NL 6max 2-3 tables, I am not playing my best, and people are more likely to pick off my c-bets, float me on the flop, play more optimally against me, etc. For me to play well I need to stay focused and concentrate. I can't focus and concentrate for such long stretches of time. So... my answer... 2 hours to at least take a break.

johnnydrama 10-17-2006 12:34 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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Ok, apparently you still don't get it. This is a forum about LIMIT Hold 'Em.

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????? General Gambing\Beginners is LIMIT ONLY???

DeuceSeven 10-17-2006 02:57 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
You only leave when the game is becoming hard to beat or you start getting tired/bored/drunk. I think this applies to limit or no limit. When I'm playing, when I stop has nothing to do with how much I've won or loss.

SheridanCat 10-17-2006 05:00 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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Ok, apparently you still don't get it. This is a forum about LIMIT Hold 'Em.

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????? General Gambing\Beginners is LIMIT ONLY???

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No, this forum is for everything beginner. The thread was moved from another forum.

Reid L 10-17-2006 11:51 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
Im not talking about quitting playing, im talking about getting money off one table and buying into another table for the max. if im at a $10max buyin table should i leave when im up 20 or 40 or just keep playing

Khaos4k 10-18-2006 12:05 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
Leave when you lose your edge. If you take a psychological hit from having too much money at the table, leave and find another table.

Seventh_Street 10-20-2006 03:01 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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This is a forum about LIMIT Hold 'Em. .

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no it isnt

OziBattler 10-20-2006 09:38 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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This is a forum about LIMIT Hold 'Em. .

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no it isnt

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see SheridanCats post

binions 10-20-2006 12:48 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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at what point should i leave a table. Now im not talking about when im playing bad and im down, im talking about being way up. should i stay when i have such a big chip advantage?

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Once you get the fundamentals of the game down, money management and game selection are the keys to overall success. And they are interrelated. Because game selection includes game deselection - ie the decision to quit.

On the internet, where the rake is 5% up to $3, the rake is not a factor on when you should leave or how you should play. In underground games in Houston, on the other hand, the rake is much higher, and can vary between clubs.

If you find yourself in a 5-5 NLHE game where $400 an hour is coming off the table in rake and tips, then: a) there better be at least 2 rich donkeys at the table, b) you want to be winning a few big pots instead of many small ones (ie pay less effective rake), so you play tighter, and c) you need to be very alert to changes in the composition in the table, and d) you need to leave any time you get well ahead and the table conditions change for the worse.

In a 5-5 live NLHE game with a 500 initial buy in, +/-300 is just variance. +300 to +800 is a good night. +800 to +1500 is very good night. +1500 to +2500 is a great night. Over +2500 is the deck running over you. Like any form of gambling, you can't win long term in poker unless you can quit while you are ahead. And when deciding when to quit, you have to be aware of what a good night is.

Whenever you get up in a game, you have to pay attention to game conditions. If I get up big, is it because I have busted some donkeys and some good players have taken their place? Is it because I have sucked out or gotten lucky against a table of mostly good players? If the answer to either is yes, I consider leaving.

If on the other hand I have busted some donkeys but they have rebought and are on tilt, you have to stay.

But even when you stay, IMO you must play more conservatively with deep money. This is contrary to the big stack as bully theory, which to me is more of a tournament concept. You must realize that whenever you enter a pot as a deep stack, you are giving someone implied odds to double up. They look at your stack and call with any trash hoping to trap you. Because of that, you need to play tight, especially when you don't have position. This also helps you protect your win.

So, the answer is not clear cut as to when you should leave. It depends on the rake, the composition of the game, and how much you are ahead. It is clear, at least to me, that if you decide to stay and play as a big stack, you must play tighter.

AlienBoy 10-21-2006 12:32 AM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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You must realize that whenever you enter a pot as a deep stack, you are giving someone implied odds to double up. They look at your stack and call with any trash hoping to trap you. Because of that, you need to play tight, especially when you don't have position. This also helps you protect your win.


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Gold. I need to "know" this gem more often.

AB

atincup 10-21-2006 09:42 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
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If on the other hand I have busted some donkeys but they have rebought and are on tilt, you have to stay.

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Another gold mine. Thanks.

Reid L 10-22-2006 06:29 PM

Re: When to leave a table
 
yeah good point. I usually play three tables at a time but the other day i decided to see what happened if i stayed at one table, a $10 max buy in, four hours later i had $96.


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