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durrrr 10-05-2006 11:40 AM

2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
BEAT
BRAG
beat #2: he left after this... since when does calling 180bbs w/ 4th pair cause some1 to leave?

10-05-2006 11:42 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
hand 2:

are you suicidal? do you hate money? how the [censored] did you read him for 22?

cardsharkk04 10-05-2006 11:44 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
my head just exploded

GetThere1Time 10-05-2006 11:44 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
what is going on in hand 2. my head esplode

ahnuld 10-05-2006 11:45 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
if he floated the flop, wouldnt a bare A be highly likey?

GetThere1Time 10-05-2006 11:45 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
omg

cardsharkk04 10-05-2006 11:49 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
you were 200bb deep right? That is one of the most insane calls I have ever seen. Were you on mega tilt? WTFWTFWTF

I mean I got called by 3rd pair for 100bb today and almost crapped my pants.

Georgia Avenue 10-05-2006 11:50 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
Standard. He left because he had to make some ramen for dinner. No biggie, just water, boil it, put it in the cup, maybe add some parmesan, a few crackers, saltines are good, bottle of YooHoo to wash it down. Standard.

RiverFenix 10-05-2006 11:51 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
What the hell did you put him on 9cTc, 7c6c, 6c5c?

durrrr 10-05-2006 11:56 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
im obviously not gonna go in depth into my logic (a bit of its player dependent and good chance ill play him again), but fwiw i was fairly sure i was winning on river.

His Boy Elroy 10-05-2006 11:56 AM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
he went to go shoot himself. there is no other possibility.

Dangeresque 10-05-2006 12:04 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
Huge calls are underratted in top flight pokah... gj dood, gj.

HeroInBlack 10-05-2006 12:09 PM

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my head esplode

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nath 10-05-2006 12:09 PM

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Hand 2 is sexy, I dig it

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since when does calling 180bbs w/ 4th pair cause some1 to leave?

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When it makes them realize they're going to get skull-[censored] if they stay around longer

neverforgetlol 10-05-2006 12:15 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
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BEAT
BRAG
beat #2: he left after this... since when does calling 180bbs w/ 4th pair cause some1 to leave?

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hand 2 is why i'll never be a high stakes pro

CopTHIS 10-05-2006 12:27 PM

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but fwiw i was fairly sure i was winning on river.

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Does that mean you would have called with J9? Or that 22 and 33 are key?

mntbikr15 10-05-2006 12:30 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
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BEAT
BRAG
beat #2: he left after this... since when does calling 180bbs w/ 4th pair cause some1 to leave?

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Wow.....nh I suppose

PartyGirlUK 10-05-2006 12:33 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
Durr,

Have you ever considered play some limit hold'em? I believe your philosophy over never folding a pair under any circumstances would be ideally suited to this game.

Best,

Dean

EmpireMaker2 10-05-2006 12:36 PM

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Durr,

Have you ever considered play some limit hold'em? I believe your philosophy over never folding a pair under any circumstances would be ideally suited to this game.

Best,

Dean

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lol

Keepitsimple 10-05-2006 12:37 PM

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The second hand is so unreal. I second

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hand 2 is why i'll never be a high stakes pro

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Schneids 10-05-2006 12:58 PM

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im obviously not gonna go in depth into my logic (a bit of its player dependent and good chance ill play him again), but fwiw i was fairly sure i was winning on river.

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GASITT is a good friend of mine, and oftentimes able to stop playing someone if he thinks he might be getting outplayed. I imagine he quit because he realized he got outplayed on that pot (rather than being like "look at that donkey calling off huge bets with bottom pair") and didn't want to play you with your stack that deep vs him (woulda been about 40k to 36k it appears).

tom10167 10-05-2006 01:07 PM

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Hand 2 is a limit call. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Equidae 10-05-2006 04:59 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
[ QUOTE ]
BEAT
BRAG
beat #2: he left after this... since when does calling 180bbs w/ 4th pair cause some1 to leave?

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i saw this happen and the chat for the few minutes afterward was priceless. nh durrrr

creedofhubris 10-05-2006 05:35 PM

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im obviously not gonna go in depth into my logic (a bit of its player dependent and good chance ill play him again), but fwiw i was fairly sure i was winning on river.

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GASITT is a good friend of mine, and oftentimes able to stop playing someone if he thinks he might be getting outplayed. I imagine he quit because he realized he got outplayed on that pot (rather than being like "look at that donkey calling off huge bets with bottom pair") and didn't want to play you with your stack that deep vs him (woulda been about 40k to 36k it appears).

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This hand and this explanation make perfect sense to me. Of course you leave when the dude is outplaying you to this extent.

NH Durr.

Schneids 10-05-2006 06:00 PM

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im obviously not gonna go in depth into my logic (a bit of its player dependent and good chance ill play him again), but fwiw i was fairly sure i was winning on river.

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GASITT is a good friend of mine, and oftentimes able to stop playing someone if he thinks he might be getting outplayed. I imagine he quit because he realized he got outplayed on that pot (rather than being like "look at that donkey calling off huge bets with bottom pair") and didn't want to play you with your stack that deep vs him (woulda been about 40k to 36k it appears).

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This hand and this explanation make perfect sense to me. Of course you leave when the dude is outplaying you to this extent.

NH Durr.

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I haven't actually talked to Gassitt yet but I'm about 80% certain this is the case. When he had the big stack advantage he was probably willing to play (or maybe even felt he had an edge), and then this hand happened and that entirely changed.

He's a pretty mature guy and able to admit to himself most of the time if he no longer has the best of it (more so than a lot of high stakes players, anyway, who let ego get in the way).

tom10167 10-05-2006 06:23 PM

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im obviously not gonna go in depth into my logic (a bit of its player dependent and good chance ill play him again), but fwiw i was fairly sure i was winning on river.

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GASITT is a good friend of mine, and oftentimes able to stop playing someone if he thinks he might be getting outplayed. I imagine he quit because he realized he got outplayed on that pot (rather than being like "look at that donkey calling off huge bets with bottom pair") and didn't want to play you with your stack that deep vs him (woulda been about 40k to 36k it appears).

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This hand and this explanation make perfect sense to me. Of course you leave when the dude is outplaying you to this extent.

NH Durr.

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I haven't actually talked to Gassitt yet but I'm about 80% certain this is the case. When he had the big stack advantage he was probably willing to play (or maybe even felt he had an edge), and then this hand happened and that entirely changed.

He's a pretty mature guy and able to admit to himself most of the time if he no longer has the best of it (more so than Baronzeus anyway, who let ego get in the way).

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You're too polite to say it so I will. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Go_Blue88 10-05-2006 06:30 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
if you suspected you were ahead, then i don't get why you didn't make a play on the turn. or maybe you didn't have full confidence until the river (based on how he reacted to the Ace)?

cool hand though.

MikeSmith 10-05-2006 06:48 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
2 is obv tilt call

kurosh 10-05-2006 06:59 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
I would be afraid of him bluffing with a better hand on hand 2...

Sykes 10-05-2006 07:34 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
I think the call on hand #2 is quite awful.

No disrespect but you're losing that hand far more times than you're winning it.

Ansky 10-05-2006 07:37 PM

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I would be afraid of him bluffing with a better hand on hand 2...

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Word.

Even if you were 100% sure villain was "bluffing" (at least in his mind a bluff) the call is still wild.

10-05-2006 07:45 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
WILD, I TELL YOU

WILD!

cardsharkk04 10-05-2006 08:26 PM

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hand 2 is why i'll never be a high stakes pro

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Big_Jim 10-05-2006 08:42 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
Just for fun:

Board: Kc 8c 4d Qd Ah
equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 45.1515 % 42.02% 03.13% { 6h4h }
Hand 2: 54.8485 % 51.72% 03.13% { random }

riverboatking 10-05-2006 08:42 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
care to post some of the hands where you make this call and they show you A4 of clubs?

donkey 10-05-2006 09:31 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
hand 2 is pretty standard. dunno why everyone is getting their panties in a wad over it

10-05-2006 09:32 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
donkey. stfu.

donkey 10-05-2006 09:41 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
grimstarr,

my comment was mostly aimed at you btw. cause you're bad at poker and you wear panties

10-05-2006 09:42 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
hu for bankrolls/panties?

donkey 10-05-2006 09:44 PM

Re: 2 BEATS, A BRAG, and some variance
 
i try to avoid playing virgins hu


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