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OK...

1. Is their a (famous) poker player who has a BANKROLL of $1 million or more? NOT ANDY BEAL, HE IS NOT A POKER PLAYER

2. Surely there must be - the pros (like Ivey) play high stakes cash games with pots worth millions of dollars. The "rules" of poker would say that they therefore must have an adequate Bankroll of Billion dollars....?

3. There is about to be a $10m buy-in Sit n Go with 6 players (Ivey, Gus etc...) which backs up point 2.

4. The organisers of the $10m tourny plan to do a $25 million Sit n Go in 2006 and a $100m in 2007.

LINKS:

1. 1st Poker Billionaire

Liquid poker forum post about the $10m tourny

Any info would be appreciated. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Andy Beal

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Lots of live "pros" brag to being under bankrolled and say they can just get the money from somewhere else if they need it. Mike Matusow refinances his house (worth 300-350K as a "reserve") Daniel Negraneau has one time said he played 40-80 limit on a $3,200 bankroll (yeah, nuts imo) Others such as Barry Greinstein have been in debt as much as a million dollars less than 5 years ago.

In my opinion, the truely high stakes players have a lot of gamble in them and have very poor bankroll management. Although there is an arguement for if they do ever go broke, they'll have no problem finding stakers so it's really impossible for them to go broke. For instance if my poker coach ever went broke, I would send him $20K as soon as he wanted it.

And yes, I bet there are billionaire poker players, fish and sharks alike.

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NOT ANDY BEAL, HE IS NOT A POKER PLAYER

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what's the previous biggest buyin for a sng? Biggest one I've seen browswing through hendon mob was 125k stud with larry flynt and a more recent one 120k sng

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lol.. I don't think a $125k tourney was a sit-n-go

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OK...

1. Is their a (famous) poker player who has a BANKROLL of $1 million or more? NOT ANDY BEAL, HE IS NOT A POKER PLAYER

2. Surely there must be - the pros (like Ivey) play high stakes cash games with pots worth millions of dollars. The "rules" of poker would say that they therefore must have an adequate Bankroll of Billion dollars....?

3. There is about to be a $10m buy-in Sit n Go with 6 players (Ivey, Gus etc...) which backs up point 2.

4. The organisers of the $10m tourny plan to do a $25 million Sit n Go in 2006 and a $100m in 2007.

LINKS:

1. 1st Poker Billionaire

Liquid poker forum post about the $10m tourny

Any info would be appreciated. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Doesn't this list start and end with El Diablo?

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I'll say Andy Beal. I don't know if he counts as a poker player.

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"Doesn't this list start and end with El Diablo?"

Who?

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If posting on 2+2 qualified you for the special olympics, this post would put you in division 1.

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"If posting on 2+2 qualified you for the special olympics, this post would put you in division 1."

im flattered :/

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No way. At 4000-8000 an adequate bankroll is more like $4 million. The biggest roll I've heard of is Phil Ivey's, and that was $8 million.

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w/ 2.4 mill, i would sit down at that 4-8 game.

i heard ivey made 18 mill in 2005? exaggeration?

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Daniel Negraneau has one time said he played 40-80 limit on a $3,200 bankroll

haha, this was me 3 yrs ago. i had 4800 and survived for 1/2 a yr playing 10-20 spread and 40-80 before taking my last 1k into cyperspace. i'm doing much better now. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Bill Gates.

Oh, also Andy Beal.

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No way. At 4000-8000 an adequate bankroll is more like $4 million. The biggest roll I've heard of is Phil Ivey's, and that was $8 million.

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There is no way Ivey's roll is "only" 8 million. More like 20-40 million.

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No way. At 4000-8000 an adequate bankroll is more like $4 million. The biggest roll I've heard of is Phil Ivey's, and that was $8 million.

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There is no way Ivey's roll is "only" 8 million. More like 20-40 million.

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Yeah, reasonably good sources have put his role at around 25M. Chaus roll is/was [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] allegedly around the same size.

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If you are interested in the bankrolls of the big game players you should pick up Professor,the bamker and the sucide king.It is not only a great read but it gets into the amount of income the big players have at there disposal.

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No way. At 4000-8000 an adequate bankroll is more like $4 million. The biggest roll I've heard of is Phil Ivey's, and that was $8 million.

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There is no way Ivey's roll is "only" 8 million. More like 20-40 million.

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5000BBs? Sounds like a lot to me.

Admittedly I don't remember where I got $8 million from, so I could be wrong, but much more than that seems incredible.

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I don't agree with the rationale outlined in that blog.

Arguing that poker pros can become billionares by investing their winnings in the stock market is completely different from arguing that poker pros can become billionares through winning that sort of money over the years.

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No way. At 4000-8000 an adequate bankroll is more like $4 million. The biggest roll I've heard of is Phil Ivey's, and that was $8 million.

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There is no way Ivey's roll is "only" 8 million. More like 20-40 million.

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5000BBs? Sounds like a lot to me.


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They don't just play limit. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Also, I'm guessing he's not talking about an active roll, but rather how much Phil could have if he needed it.

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It's also less impressive when it is a billion dollars after 40 years of inflation.

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I would say Andy Beal.

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Bill Gates is known to play $3/$6 pr $4/$8 when in Vegas.

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Bill Gates is known to play $3/$6 pr $4/$8 when in Vegas.

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I read that too somewhere. By my calculations in the 4/8 game: with a net worth of approximately $50 billion dollars, he has a bankroll of 6.25 billion BB. (Probably enough to cover himself for variance).

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I'm suprised noone's mentioned Andy Beal.

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How 'bout that Andy Beal?

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How much are Paul Phillips and Richard Brodie worth? Their pre-poker earnings should put them high on any list.

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How much are Paul Phillips and Richard Brodie worth? Their pre-poker earnings should put them high on any list.

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I don't think Paul Phillips and Richard Brodie are comparable.

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Paul Phillips doesn't play poker anymore. He's a scrabble player/Rennaissance man now. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I think that Phil Gordon is worth about $100 million, but that's because of the dot-com boom, not poker.

Of course, there's always Andy Beal.

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No way. At 4000-8000 an adequate bankroll is more like $4 million. The biggest roll I've heard of is Phil Ivey's, and that was $8 million.

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There is no way Ivey's roll is "only" 8 million. More like 20-40 million.

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5000BBs? Sounds like a lot to me.


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They don't just play limit. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Fair enough.

It still sounds like a crazy sum.* Without knowing anything else about where they got their money, I'd have to assume that some of it came from investments, too.

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Sorry if it has already been mentioned, because I didn't read the replies .. But ... Andy Beal.

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andy beal is a billionaire right?

and i think he plays poker

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Ah, Mr. Andrew Beal is the answer! I believe he is both a billionaire AND a poker player!

Case Closed, GG, etc

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There's some rich banker from Texas who play some poker. Something like Billy, no it's Andy Beal.

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I don't think anyone's mentioned it yet, but Andy Beal is a billionare and he plays poker. Nobody really knows about him though somebody should write a book about him.

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Sorry if it has already been mentioned, because I didn't read the replies .. But ... Andy Beal.

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Andy Beal is not a Scrabble player.

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Paul Phillips doesn't play poker anymore. He's a scrabble player/Rennaissance man now. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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What is a sustainable hourly rate for being a Renaissance man?

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This thread is exactly why I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2+2. You tell 2+2er's not to do something and they will go out of their way to do it, for hilarious comedy effect. Just genius.