3/6 Low Two Pair getting counterfeited on on a drawy board
 

MP is a very good (29/20/2.68) LAG, but I haven't any spectacular reads on him.

This is the very first hand after I sat down.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($204.75)
Hero ($600)
UTG ($628)
MP ($989)
Button ($585)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $21</font>, MP calls $21, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $15.

Flop: ($66) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $50</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $50.

Turn: ($166) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>, MP calls $140.

River: ($446) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ???

Re: 3/6 Low Two Pair getting counterfeited on on a drawy board
 

fold pf

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I'd prob check fold unless you put him on a flush draw which you can call a bet if you have a sick read, but I really think c/f is the best play because any overpair to that flop is ahead vs you now.

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fold pf

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nice 2794th post!

I don't care about preflop, that's not important here.

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I'd prob check fold unless you put him on a flush draw which you can call a bet if you have a sick read, but I really think c/f is the best play because any overpair to that flop is ahead vs you now.

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wouldn't he try to protect an overpair on the flop with a big raise? I can't see him calling that flop with JJ-AA.

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i mean like 55-99 mostly. But yea i doubt he flat calls the flop with JJ-AA. Like i said if you have a read you can call a bet but i think leading this river would be bad personally.

Re: 3/6 Low Two Pair getting counterfeited on on a drawy board
 

I guess I cut the hand at the wrong position.

Let's go a bit in the future:
Hero checks, MP bets 220$, Hero ???

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fold pf

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nice 2794th post!

I don't care about preflop, that's not important here.

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It is important, if you post a hand it must be able to discuss the whole hand. And fwiw I fold this preflop to.

Re: 3/6 Low Two Pair getting counterfeited on on a drawy board
 

Wow thats a dirty bet, I think that kind of looks more like a value bet than a bluff, but I don't know because I wasn't there and I dont know the villian, but generally I think this is some sort of made hand.... Fold is good i think.

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fold pf

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nice 2794th post!

I don't care about preflop, that's not important here.

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It is important, against a solid player and some unknown OOP do you think this is a profitable call pf, or perhaps a leak you should fix?

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Ok, I'm sorry for being so rude.

Let's say preflop was a misclick... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Re: 3/6 Low Two Pair getting counterfeited on on a drawy board
 

calling preflop is fine as long as you know how to steal some pots post flop

on the flop I really think you need to go for a C/R or at least see what MP does, i dont like betting out because your hand can be dead on the turn and you really dont drive out many hands.

You could also go for a turn C/R against an agro player because it looks like you just took a stab at a board that probably didnt hit either player, he might think his 88 is good.

The river is a bitch and unless he has something like 7d5d you are beat here so just check/fold

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results:

Hero check-folds and Villain shows 8h-6h for 8 high :/

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i check/call this river all day and expect to win against everything except TXdd

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What hand can you put him on that is valuebetting? 55-99 and a T, 45, 35, are generally going to be checking behind, a straight would have been alive somewhere earlier (as would the very unlikely sets, except possibly TT). His play matches very little besides a missed draw