Might swirtch to wpex; coupla questions?
 

Looks like a pretty good deal. I'm tired of the "teamwork" that you run into on some of the sites; you'll be playing along, and you notice that some guy knows that the case king is not in play, e.g. how's wpex in that regard?

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Terrible. And I'm serious.

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LOL

how's the tinfoil hat treating ya?

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Looks like a pretty good deal. I'm tired of the "teamwork" that you run into on some of the sites; you'll be playing along, and you notice that some guy knows that the case king is not in play, e.g.

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Wtf are you talking about?

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If i wanted to collude I would probably try it out at wpex first. i wouldn't lose rake when in pots with any partners, the player base is small so playing regularly with the same people would not look suspicious, they take no rake so they probably spend little money on security, and any suspicious players have no means of looking over past hand histories to confirm any suspicions.

i do think you are paranoid though. after 300k hands, I've probably ran into suspicious behaviour a few times and only once did I feel it was enough to warrant an email. you are probably just playing bad poker.

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Well, at the risk of sounding... weird, I've played a helluva lot more hands than that over the last forty years, and I play just fine. Years ago if you played for higher stakes, you played in underground games or in Nevada, and believe me, collusion was a fact of life. Everyone knew it, kept their eyes open, and it would actually get to be funny -- you'd go to some game in Cowpie Oregon and the table would be jiggling with all the signals back and forth. Ask anyone from those days.

Yes it happens on-line; no big deal but it's annoying.

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If i wanted to collude I would probably try it out at wpex first. i wouldn't lose rake when in pots with any partners, the player base is small so playing regularly with the same people would not look suspicious, they take no rake so they probably spend little money on security, and any suspicious players have no means of looking over past hand histories to confirm any suspicions.



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You've persuaded me, I'll do it.

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If i wanted to collude I would probably try it out at wpex first. i wouldn't lose rake when in pots with any partners, the player base is small so playing regularly with the same people would not look suspicious, they take no rake so they probably spend little money on security, and any suspicious players have no means of looking over past hand histories to confirm any suspicions.


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unfortunately these are good points. I still play at WPEX occasionally, but if someone was inclide to collude WPEX wouldn't be a bad place to try it out.

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Looks like a pretty good deal. I'm tired of the "teamwork" that you run into on some of the sites; you'll be playing along, and you notice that some guy knows that the case king is not in play, e.g. how's wpex in that regard?

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many thanks for the PSA, OP (and others). [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

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Well, at the risk of sounding... weird, I've played a helluva lot more hands than that over the last forty years, and I play just fine. Years ago if you played for higher stakes, you played in underground games or in Nevada, and believe me, collusion was a fact of life. Everyone knew it, kept their eyes open, and it would actually get to be funny -- you'd go to some game in Cowpie Oregon and the table would be jiggling with all the signals back and forth. Ask anyone from those days.

Yes it happens on-line; no big deal but it's annoying.

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Not to detract from your point, but most multi-tablers play more hands online in a few years than most regular live players play in a lifetime.

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Well, at the risk of sounding... weird, I've played a helluva lot more hands than that over the last forty years, and I play just fine. Years ago if you played for higher stakes, you played in underground games or in Nevada, and believe me, collusion was a fact of life. Everyone knew it, kept their eyes open, and it would actually get to be funny -- you'd go to some game in Cowpie Oregon and the table would be jiggling with all the signals back and forth. Ask anyone from those days.

Yes it happens on-line; no big deal but it's annoying.

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Well, at the risk of sounding... right, dude you sound unintelligent.

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Collusion is impossible at wpex because having two people connected at the same time for more than 5 minutes without a disconnect/folded hand is damn near impossible.

The site sucks I was pushing any two in a sng today because I knew my next 3 hands would be folded for me.

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I see THE HUD are rumor mongering. Lovely.

But the fact is that collusion is normally pretty obvious. Skilled colluders exist but are -EV as compared to playing alone.

If you are still human, you will probably recognize that the same two are in pots together often (this involves 'intuition') and make a note on each player stating such. This would be useless at largers sites, as you will never play them again. After all...PARTY HAD 20 COLLUDING BOTS GO UNNOTICED ON IT'S SITE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS!!! Semi-bots have left WSEX because they refuse to play without PokerAce's mind feed. The truth is obvious.

If you check out the action on WSEX, you will notice it is substantially softer, though probably not for long unfortunately [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I disagree with the THE HUD's message that, without PokerAce holding your hand collusion is unnoticable.

iH8poker

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i see someone left the donkey pen open again. lovely

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Wow Ali Shmali...3 minutes...that reminds me of a joke, your mom.

iH8poker

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I see THE HUD are rumor mongering.

But the fact is that collusion is normally pretty obvious.

If you are still human, you will probably recognize that

PARTY HAD 20 COLLUDING BOTS GO UNNOTICED ON IT'S SITE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS!!!

Semi-bots have left WSEX because they refuse to play without PokerAce's mind feed.

The truth is obvious.

If you check out the action on WSEX, you will notice it is substantially softer, though probably not for long unfortunately



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If i wanted to collude I would probably try it out at wpex first. i wouldn't lose rake when in pots with any partners, the player base is small so playing regularly with the same people would not look suspicious, they take no rake so they probably spend little money on security, and any suspicious players have no means of looking over past hand histories to confirm any suspicions.


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All good points, but you're missing the best of all. WPEX software is tailored to suit colluders: after you fold your card graphics remain to more easily allow you to check what cards your virtual teammates have mucked.

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If you check out the action on WSEX, you will notice it is substantially softer, though probably not for long unfortunately [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

iH8poker

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You almost busto?