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DVaut1 09-15-2006 10:11 AM

*** Official NCAA Football Week of 9/16 Thread ***
 
Lots of big games this weekend:

- Iowa State @ (#16) Iowa, 12:00 PM (the only real compelling noon game, IMO, although I'll also be watching Mich. State vs. Pitt)

Then we get:

- (#11) Michigan @ (#2) Notre Dame, 3:30 PM
- (#6) LSU @ (#3) Auburn, 3:30 PM
- (#17) Miami Fl @ (#12) Louisville, 3:30 PM
- (#15) Oklahoma @ (#18) Oregon, 3:30 PM
- (#24) Texas Tech @ (#20) TCU, 5:30 PM

And finally, to wrap up what should be an amazing Saturday:

- (#19) Nebraska @ (#4) USC, 8:00 PM
- (#7) Florida @ (#13) Tennessee, 8:00 PM



Discuss.

I'll begin: <font color="blue"> Go Blue</font>. I've been in South Bend for the last two times (2002 &amp; 2004) we played them there, and that certainly didn't turn out well (despite the fact, IMO, we had vastly superior teams -- particularly in 2004). So I'm staying at home for this one. Hopefully U of M's South-Bend-karma is somehow reversed by my lack of presence in the stadium.

damaniac 09-15-2006 10:37 AM

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Wonderful that we get all those games at one time. I'd get an extra TV in here (two already) but I suspect the wonderful system we have for providing viewers with game will have most of these on ABC regional, so no go.

Since the Michigan-ND game is on NBC, this seems like a great situation for the Charlie Weis Drinking Game (basically, drink when he's on screen, mentioned by name, and whenever he is described as a genius/brilliant, doubly so if it's for something that most/all coaches actually do, like self-scouting.) Seriously, excellent matchup, I think Michigan can get some pressure and stop the run. We'll give up a few big passes, but if that means a few more 3-and-outs and a turnover or two, I can live with it.

Offensively, we have the one thing we've lacked the last two years: a healthy and playing Mike Hart. I'll be praying for his continued health. We better be able to run because that O-line on pass blocking....ick.

I predict a close game, bizarre plays, bounces and calls, and a weird final score like 22-19 or something. In other words, a standard Michigan-ND game.

BTW, what lame-ass marketing name did Gameday come up with for this weekend?

DVaut1 09-15-2006 10:40 AM

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BTW, what lame-ass marketing name did Gameday come up with for this weekend?

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"Seperation Saturday"

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 10:47 AM

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Florida vs. Tenn is the game of interest for me. Florida played two teams so far that werent the typical early season cream puffs (Southern Miss, and UCF, both played in bowl games last season FWIW). In the first game, Florida looked a bit mediocre in my mind, but I chalk that up to opening game jitters. Against UCF, Florida looked much more in control. Tenn spanked Cal pretty good in week 1 and then won a squeaker over USAFA last weekend. The key matchup in my mind is UF's young O-line against a tough Tenn defense. As long as Leak gets decent protection and UF can establish some sort of running game they should prevail. I expect Urban Meyer to run more plays to get Leak away from the pass rush. I hope to see true freshman Percy Harvin make some noise. He has sick physical talent and so far in the season has displayed a very good grasp of the game for a true freshman. Also Meyer said to expect more play time for true freshman QB, Tim Tebow, who is quite an athletic talent well. He brings a whole different look to the UF offense and in all honesty is probably a better fit in Meyer's spread option offense. Leak is a very good dropback passer but his running skills are probably slightly better than average. I really like this move by Meyer because it gives that much more for the Vol's defense to worry about.

On the Vol side, UF has to deal with an always punishing UT run game and UT has some very good receivers who are also big and strong. Erik Ainge is a very capable QB. The UF DL is tough and the LB corps is strong as well so hopefully they will be able to contain the UT running game. If UF has a defensive weakness it could be in the secondary. UF is still solid by most standards in the secondary but has a tough matchup against the UT WRs. On defense UT is playing without starting CB "Inky" Johnson and All-SEC DL Justin Harrell is playing with a torn bicep, electing to forego season ending surgery in order to play against UF. The CB loss could be the most significant for UT given the strength of UF's receiving corps.

Interesting factoids about this game:

1) In the past ten seasons the winner of the UF-UT game has gone on to win the SEC East title.

2) The lower-ranked team has won four of the last five and six of the last eight in this series. This year Florida goes into Neyland Stadium ranked higher than UT.


Great weekend for college football and obviously Im quite excited about this game in particular.

DVaut1 09-15-2006 10:48 AM

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Wonderful that we get all those games at one time. I'd get an extra TV in here (two already) but I suspect the wonderful system we have for providing viewers with game will have most of these on ABC regional, so no go.

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If you have cable and two or three TVs, you should be okay.

ND vs. UM is on NBC
LSU vs Auburn is on CBS
Texas Tech vs TCU is on OLN (and doesn't start until 5:30)

Conflict:
Miami vs Louisville is on ABC
Oklahoma vs Oregon is also on ABC

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So yeah, you'll only be getting one of these two games.

Then at night, USC vs. Nebraska is on ABC while Florida vs. Tennessee is on CBS. I have a two TV setup, so I'll be leaving UM/ND on one TV and then flipping between LSU/Auburn and Miami/Louisville on the other. Once all the 3:30 action is over, I flip to OLN for Mike Leach/Tex Tech/crazy batshit aerial attack vs. TCU game until the 7:30 games present another 3 game/2 TV conflict.

Shouldn't be awful.

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 10:56 AM

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These type of Saturdays make me really happy that I married a woman who loves football as much as I do. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

DVaut1 09-15-2006 10:58 AM

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VR,

Florida are 3.5 point favorites. I know this isn't the Sports Betting forum, and I'm pretty sure you're a big UF fan (correct me if I'm wrong), but in your unbiased opinion, do you like UF to cover? Tennessee's Jekyll/Hyde act so far this season is disconcerting from a bettor perspective and I don't like betting against a home dog in what seems to be a relatively evenly-matched game.

DVaut1 09-15-2006 10:59 AM

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These type of Saturdays make me really happy that I married a woman who doesn't like me that much and doesn't mind not spending time with me.

damaniac 09-15-2006 10:59 AM

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Speaking of lines, the M-ND line has jumped around from around 7/7.5 down to 4/4.5 in some places. That's pretty unusual, no?

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 11:21 AM

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Dvaut,

Yes, big UF fan. Had to think about this one, because Im not a big sports bettor and I am somewhat biased. When you look at the matchups though, I think UF can cover. UT took a big hit in the secondary and Florida's receivers are all good, and most of them have enough experience that they are unlikely to be affected by the atmosphere at Neyland. It is a close matchup but I think it swings in UF's direction just enough. This might actually be a good game to arb if you can find the right lines, but good luck with that. I will say I hate betting games like this that have so many intangibles in play. Some people will point to the perceived weakness of the UF O-line but Meyer, from what I can tell at any rate, is fairly pleased with their performance to date. I think UT has the advantage in that matchup, though its somewhat lessened due to the injury to Harrell. But I think the O-line can slow down the UT line just enough to give Leak some good opportunities.

BigSoonerFan 09-15-2006 11:32 AM

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As an Oklahoma fan, I'm not too optimistic about the Oregon game.

DVaut1 09-15-2006 11:41 AM

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As an Oklahoma fan, I'm not too optimistic about the Oregon game.

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Autzen Stadium = not fun to play in

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 11:53 AM

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Go Gators!! Beat UT!

pirateboy 09-15-2006 11:56 AM

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1) In the past ten seasons the winner of the UF-UT game has gone on to win the SEC East title.






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Incorrect.

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 11:59 AM

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1) In the past ten seasons the winner of the UF-UT game has gone on to win the SEC East title.






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Incorrect.

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Youre right. Should read 7 out of the last 10 seasons. Nice catch. You must be a Bulldog. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

pirateboy 09-15-2006 12:00 PM

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Let's talk about how Chris Leak almost always underperforms in big games against good Ds.

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 12:05 PM

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Let's talk about how Chris Leak almost always underperforms in big games against good Ds.

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Iowa? FSU? Pretty good games.
Overall, you're probably right. The hope is that it's a new year [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 12:05 PM

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As an Oklahoma fan, I'm not too optimistic about the Oregon game.

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Yeah, I'd be worried too.

mmbt0ne 09-15-2006 12:06 PM

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EDIT: I need to read threads better.

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 12:06 PM

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Clemson/FSU should be interesting as well.

mmbt0ne 09-15-2006 12:10 PM

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Let's talk about how Chris Leak almost always underperforms in big games against good Ds.

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Like how in 3 games against UGA he's 50/77 for 590 4 TDs and 0 INTs

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 12:17 PM

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Let's talk about how Chris Leak almost always underperforms in big games against good Ds.

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Like how in 3 games against UGA he's 50/77 for 590 4 TDs and 0 INTs

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Yeah, thanks. I only didn't mention it because he hasn't had a ton of huge yardage games against great Ds, but man is he efficient. Hopefully he'll put up big numbers all the way around this week.

pirateboy 09-15-2006 12:30 PM

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Let's talk about how Chris Leak almost always underperforms in big games against good Ds.

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Like how in 3 games against UGA he's 50/77 for 590 4 TDs and 0 INTs

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Kind of like how last year Georgia allowed 169 passing yards per game, and Leak threw for 108? Or how Tennessee allowed 215, and Leak threw for 179? Against LSU, he threw for 107, they allowed in the 170 range.

EDIT: I actually like Leak more than most UT fans. I think he's underrated and will be a very good NFL quarterback. However, the stats show a *possible* trend from him in big games against good pass Ds (for sure in 2005).

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 12:56 PM

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The problem in the past for Leak hasnt been because of good secondary but rather good DL combined with a mediocre O-line. The UF O-line this year is young, but they seem to be coming together well and definitely have some talent. Harrell playing with a torn bicep doesnt speak well for UT, because I just cant see how a DL can be effective with a torn bicep. Course he'll be all hopped on painkillers so maybe that will help mitigate it some but that wont make the torn muscle any more functional. Whats your prediction for the game Pirateboy? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 12:59 PM

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Let's talk about how Chris Leak almost always underperforms in big games against good Ds.

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Like how in 3 games against UGA he's 50/77 for 590 4 TDs and 0 INTs

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Kind of like how last year Georgia allowed 169 passing yards per game, and Leak threw for 108? Or how Tennessee allowed 215, and Leak threw for 179? Against LSU, he threw for 107, they allowed in the 170 range.

EDIT: I actually like Leak more than most UT fans. I think he's underrated and will be a very good NFL quarterback. However, the stats show a *possible* trend from him in big games against good pass Ds (for sure in 2005).

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Yeah, as I was mentioning his stats aren't off the charts but he is efficient &amp; leads his team to victory regardless.
You are forgetting his last 2 games against good defenses:
FSU, Iowa. He played awesome.

TheHip41 09-15-2006 01:02 PM

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These type of Saturdays make me really happy that I married a woman who loves football as much as I do. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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my "best friend" scheduled his engagement party this saturday at 3:30pm. I mean WTF. I have been looking forward to this day for months, and I have to go to a SGDMF engagement party?

Thank god for 2 tivos and games on different channels. I'll be up till 4am watching all these games.

JackWhite 09-15-2006 01:20 PM

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Speaking of lines, the M-ND line has jumped around from around 7/7.5 down to 4/4.5 in some places. That's pretty unusual, no?

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It is definitely unusual for a line to move this much, especially in a big game. I think the long history of close games in this series is the driving factor.

As for the game, I think the only way UM wins is if we go for the throat for the opening kick. I don't have faith Lloyd will do this, though. No more 5 yard outs, get Manningham and Breaston the ball in the middle of the field.

In some respects it is nice being the underdog. I am really tired of being the favorite in this game, only to blow it. That being said, I don't have confidence we will open up the playbook enough to win.

ND 17 UM 13

Case Closed 09-15-2006 01:27 PM

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Come on ND, I got $100 on them winning outright.

Terrabon98 09-15-2006 01:43 PM

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I can't wait for Michigan to crush ND! Actually, I am sure it will be close, but I cannot wait either way. Huge game for both teams. Also, Michigan will lose if they do not start passing the ball. So far we are 10th in the Big Ten in terms of passing...we cannot beat a team as good as ND by just running the ball, even if Mike Hart is a beast.

TruFloridaGator 09-15-2006 02:12 PM

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These type of Saturdays make me really happy that I married a woman who loves football as much as I do. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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my "best friend" scheduled his engagement party this saturday at 3:30pm. I mean WTF. I have been looking forward to this day for months, and I have to go to a SGDMF engagement party?

Thank god for 2 tivos and games on different channels. I'll be up till 4am watching all these games.

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Sounds like a fun day to me. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

damaniac 09-15-2006 03:10 PM

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Ordinarily I'd agree with you. However, while we can't just run up the gut all game, our strength certainly appears to be the running game. ND has looked vulnerable to the rush thus far (per MGOBLOG, and I trust his analysis), so this bodes well. Also, our receivers thus far have the drops, I'm still not sold on Henne, and the O-line in pass protection is a disaster in the making. So while we certainly can't run 55 times a la Bo, I'd really prefer us to pound the ball most of the game, simply because that figures to be the most effective means of generating yards and points.

But yeah, a pass or two in the middle of the field and/or deep would be something. We oughta tell Deboard that rule changes now permit such plays.

pirateboy 09-15-2006 03:11 PM

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The problem in the past for Leak hasnt been because of good secondary but rather good DL combined with a mediocre O-line. The UF O-line this year is young, but they seem to be coming together well and definitely have some talent. Harrell playing with a torn bicep doesnt speak well for UT, because I just cant see how a DL can be effective with a torn bicep. Course he'll be all hopped on painkillers so maybe that will help mitigate it some but that wont make the torn muscle any more functional. Whats your prediction for the game Pirateboy? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It does speak well for UT. Dan Brooks had the same injury when he played, and he said you can be as effective as normal. Harrell will play out of his mind for his last game in orange. I've read about the torn bicep injury and with the proper brace and everything (obviously) he will be able to do what he does. Does that change the entire landscape of this game? Absolutely not.

This game, like many rivalry games, isn't about stats. Leak's past performances against good Ds doesn't mean he won't carve Tennessee up tomorrow. He very well could.

My unbiased sports betting prediction is UT 21, UF 20

It could just as easily be the other way around. I don't think either team is running away with this one. I will say this: A lot of Florida fans (not the ones in this thread or site) are feeling like you all will manhandle us. It won't happen. Our DL will eat your OL for lunch, and the same will happen with your excellent DL. Should be a classic.

DVaut1 09-15-2006 04:11 PM

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From Scouts.com, via ESPN (link):

"Scouts' Edge

The Wolverines leave the comforts of home for the first time this season after looking under whelming in two victories over Vanderbilt and Central Michigan. They travel to Notre Dame Stadium to take on an Irish team fresh off its steam rolling of Penn State, which was ranked 19th at the time. Lloyd Carr is feeling the heat in Ann Arbor, while Charlie Weis is being adorned in South Bend. Quinn is posing for magazine covers, while Henne is dealing with boo-birds in the Big House. Also do not forget that Michigan is riding a six-game losing streak in road openers.

With all that in mind, a comfortable Notre Dame victory seems inevitable. But don't get lulled to sleep by statistics and hype. These two teams are evenly matched athletically. In fact, an argument could easily be made for Michigan having better all-around talent. Notre Dame has far more to lose in this game and Michigan will be playing with a chip on its shoulder following last year's embarrassing loss in front of its home crowd.

Finally, for all the criticism he endures, Carr is a proven big-game coach with a 15-6 record versus top-10 teams, including three wins in four tries versus the second-ranked team in the country. When it's all said and done; a faster, healthier and more motivated Michigan team will stun Notre Dame this Saturday in an upset that will drastically change the 2006 college football landscape.

Prediction: Wolverines 24, Fighting Irish 23"


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JackWhite 09-15-2006 04:12 PM

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But yeah, a pass or two in the middle of the field and/or deep would be something. We oughta tell Deboard that rule changes now permit such plays.

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For sure. Another thing: why don't we bring back the waggle pass? Remember '97? Griese to Tuman using the waggle play worked twice a game for big yards. Since then, we've almost totally abanonded that play. I still cannot understand why.

You are right, though. We are going to have to dominate the running game and keep Quinn off the field. If we are in third and long on a frequent basis, it will be a nightmare. With our suspect pass protection, Henne will get killed after a bunch of 3rd and 9s.

damaniac 09-15-2006 04:16 PM

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For sure. Another thing: why don't we bring back the waggle pass? Remember '97? Griese to Tuman using the waggle play worked twice a game for big yards. Since then, we've almost totally abanonded that play. I still cannot understand why.


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Haven't been watching games this seasons have you?

DVaut1 09-15-2006 04:21 PM

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For sure. Another thing: why don't we bring back the waggle pass? Remember '97? Griese to Tuman using the waggle play worked twice a game for big yards. Since then, we've almost totally abanonded that play. I still cannot understand why.

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It's definitely back. We've run it a bunch of times in the first two games -- and each time the TEs have been wide open. I distinctly remember Butler being on the receiving end of the waggle and getting tackled head-over-heels against CMU last Saturday.

JackWhite 09-15-2006 04:29 PM

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Haven't been watching games this seasons have you?

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Didn't get to see the CMU game. Glad it is back. If only I was as big a fan as you..then my life would be complete.

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 05:18 PM

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The problem in the past for Leak hasnt been because of good secondary but rather good DL combined with a mediocre O-line. The UF O-line this year is young, but they seem to be coming together well and definitely have some talent. Harrell playing with a torn bicep doesnt speak well for UT, because I just cant see how a DL can be effective with a torn bicep. Course he'll be all hopped on painkillers so maybe that will help mitigate it some but that wont make the torn muscle any more functional. Whats your prediction for the game Pirateboy? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It does speak well for UT. Dan Brooks had the same injury when he played, and he said you can be as effective as normal. Harrell will play out of his mind for his last game in orange. I've read about the torn bicep injury and with the proper brace and everything (obviously) he will be able to do what he does. Does that change the entire landscape of this game? Absolutely not.

This game, like many rivalry games, isn't about stats. Leak's past performances against good Ds doesn't mean he won't carve Tennessee up tomorrow. He very well could.

My unbiased sports betting prediction is UT 21, UF 20

It could just as easily be the other way around. I don't think either team is running away with this one. I will say this: A lot of Florida fans (not the ones in this thread or site) are feeling like you all will manhandle us. It won't happen. Our DL will eat your OL for lunch, and the same will happen with your excellent DL. Should be a classic.

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Keep in mind that Florida runs an offense somewhat similar to Air Force's, at least in terms of what they attempt to do to the defense. Tenn was getting out of position a lot against USAFA and got 31 points hung on them as a result.

pirateboy 09-15-2006 06:12 PM

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The problem in the past for Leak hasnt been because of good secondary but rather good DL combined with a mediocre O-line. The UF O-line this year is young, but they seem to be coming together well and definitely have some talent. Harrell playing with a torn bicep doesnt speak well for UT, because I just cant see how a DL can be effective with a torn bicep. Course he'll be all hopped on painkillers so maybe that will help mitigate it some but that wont make the torn muscle any more functional. Whats your prediction for the game Pirateboy? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It does speak well for UT. Dan Brooks had the same injury when he played, and he said you can be as effective as normal. Harrell will play out of his mind for his last game in orange. I've read about the torn bicep injury and with the proper brace and everything (obviously) he will be able to do what he does. Does that change the entire landscape of this game? Absolutely not.

This game, like many rivalry games, isn't about stats. Leak's past performances against good Ds doesn't mean he won't carve Tennessee up tomorrow. He very well could.

My unbiased sports betting prediction is UT 21, UF 20

It could just as easily be the other way around. I don't think either team is running away with this one. I will say this: A lot of Florida fans (not the ones in this thread or site) are feeling like you all will manhandle us. It won't happen. Our DL will eat your OL for lunch, and the same will happen with your excellent DL. Should be a classic.

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Keep in mind that Florida runs an offense somewhat similar to Air Force's, at least in terms of what they attempt to do to the defense. Tenn was getting out of position a lot against USAFA and got 31 points hung on them as a result.

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Um, no they don't.

Air Force runs the triple option from the flexbone. If Tim Tebow was playing the entire game, you might be at least somewhat close. With Tebow next season, the Gators will run the spread option, which is close but not the same. Florida's gameplan under Meyer with Leak at quarterback is nowhere even in the same stratosphere to what Air Force does. Not even remotely close.

vulturesrow 09-15-2006 09:38 PM

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The problem in the past for Leak hasnt been because of good secondary but rather good DL combined with a mediocre O-line. The UF O-line this year is young, but they seem to be coming together well and definitely have some talent. Harrell playing with a torn bicep doesnt speak well for UT, because I just cant see how a DL can be effective with a torn bicep. Course he'll be all hopped on painkillers so maybe that will help mitigate it some but that wont make the torn muscle any more functional. Whats your prediction for the game Pirateboy? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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It does speak well for UT. Dan Brooks had the same injury when he played, and he said you can be as effective as normal. Harrell will play out of his mind for his last game in orange. I've read about the torn bicep injury and with the proper brace and everything (obviously) he will be able to do what he does. Does that change the entire landscape of this game? Absolutely not.

This game, like many rivalry games, isn't about stats. Leak's past performances against good Ds doesn't mean he won't carve Tennessee up tomorrow. He very well could.

My unbiased sports betting prediction is UT 21, UF 20

It could just as easily be the other way around. I don't think either team is running away with this one. I will say this: A lot of Florida fans (not the ones in this thread or site) are feeling like you all will manhandle us. It won't happen. Our DL will eat your OL for lunch, and the same will happen with your excellent DL. Should be a classic.

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Keep in mind that Florida runs an offense somewhat similar to Air Force's, at least in terms of what they attempt to do to the defense. Tenn was getting out of position a lot against USAFA and got 31 points hung on them as a result.

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Um, no they don't.

Air Force runs the triple option from the flexbone. If Tim Tebow was playing the entire game, you might be at least somewhat close. With Tebow next season, the Gators will run the spread option, which is close but not the same. Florida's gameplan under Meyer with Leak at quarterback is nowhere even in the same stratosphere to what Air Force does. Not even remotely close.

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Wow you completely missed my point. But thats ok, I didnt expect much from a Vol anyhow. You can go back to watching Jeff Foxworthy now. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]


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